Though as we've said, it's a bit too early to plan anything invading wise. We're just arguing for keeping the option open so that golden opportunities to gain much benefit for the empire via military action don't get dismissed out of hand because 'it would be mean'.
 
We are omnivores not mostly carnivorous. We like meat and fish but it isn't the main part of our diet.

We are able to eat fruits and such yes. I'm just saying we're more naturally inclined to be aggressive and militaristic than say, a nation of llamas. Or any of the other starting races. And that is rather obvious yes?
 
You know guys, we're a merchant king not a warrior warlord. Why should we bother with aggressive conquest that drains the coffers and causes issues when there is profit to be found? Make trade, buy ports, settle lands, sell mercenaries, monopolize markets, build relations and not only have you made oodles more money to line the coffers, caused way less problems, but you have and have integrated th e lands without needing to devote your armies and drain your economies for peacekeeping.

Unruly populations aren't profit

Profit is profit

Seriously though, being a murderhobo is dumb when we could be scrooge mcducking it on our piles of top quality gold spice and incense.

In fact lemme just drop the rules of acquisition here.

Though as we've said, it's a bit too early to plan anything invading wise. We're just arguing for keeping the option open so that golden opportunities to gain much benefit for the empire via military action don't get dismissed out of hand because 'it would be mean'.
Dismissing things out of hand is dumb and because it would be mean is the worst reason.
 
I would be willing to wait until we find reliable sources of coal, as it is a vital resource to kickstart our industrial revolution.
 
We are able to eat fruits and such yes. I'm just saying we're more naturally inclined to be aggressive and militaristic than say, a nation of llamas. Or any of the other starting races. And that is rather obvious yes?
Haha, hahaha, llamas and monkies are mean as shit.

No we should be somewhat more militaristic if not impatient because we have a culture that emphasizes military values and doesnt particularly hold onto patience.

Not that that means we should conquest people for the sake of conquest as the merchant king who is above such base atavistic instinct.

Nay, if we conquest it ought be not for conquest sake but in the name of profit.
 
Anyway, we'll see how things play out. If our guy is smooth enough to get everything we want without fighting, that's great. But if say, the neighponese refuse to interact at all, and we find that their claims of a great dragon backing them are bull, why wouldn't we search for some flimsy claim to install a puppet rulership or just outright conquer in time?

Assuming that from the viewpoint of those in character the benefits outweighed the costs. Especially if they got strategic resources we don't.
 
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How about we see whose to our south in the upcoming interlude before we decide what to do about the people around us.
 
Anyway, we'll see how things play out. If our guy is smooth enough to get everything we want without fighting, that's great. But if say, the neighponese refuse to interact at all, and we find that their claims of a great dragon backing them are bull, why wouldn't we search for some flimsy claim to install a puppet rulership or just outright conquer in time?

Assuming that from the viewpoint of those in character the benefits outweighed the costs. Especially if they got strategic resources we don't.
I mean, duh.
 
No one has argued otherwise and in fact declarations of waiting for more information before really deciding have come from everyone, save those firmly against conquest in any way, shape, or form.
Did I ever say that it was argued otherwise? I'm just saying before making any plans of trade warfare or what have you with the mysterious red sails to the east let's see what's to the south first before making any plans.
 
Did I ever say that it was argued otherwise? I'm just saying before making any plans of trade warfare or what have you with the mysterious red sails to the east let's see what's to the south first before making any plans.

It was kind of implied by your phrasing that it was argued otherwise and that your post was a response to such.
 
It was kind of implied by your phrasing that it was argued otherwise and that your post was a response to such.
Well it wasn't meant to. But yes the talk of invasion for potential resources or whatnot had been thrown around in the posts after the rumor mill. But I disregard it as it's just idiotic to think of invading a foreign island nation that we know nothing about. Besides we are the merchant King we should be able to bring them to the table to trade besides I'm more concerned on who could be to our south on the same land as us who would be a much bigger threat.
 
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One thing i want to do soon is get a new type of warship. something bigger and meaner than a cog. Cannons might help with this.

Depending on what we find we might not have the sea as a big priority, but on the other hand south could be another hard to cross wasteland without seeming like an invasion threat, which would make the sea vitally important.
 
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