Especially since pulling her away right now if far more important if you want to save her do it when she doesn't have an ally in the grip of death. Try and convince her when the only danger is to ourselves instead of others which is one of Alex's main traits she has major guilt issues. Do you all really think this is going to help her with that by letting someone else die while she had a chance to save them by drawing out the person killing them, but instead she decided to try and talk the person down while that person had an axe in the body of our ally?
 
It was either cockroaches, bastard, or trash. Went with the one that matched his trait. Since it is meant to get the blank to react to us instead of Shockwave.
 
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So what would be the fallout if Shockwave got killed and we were trying to get the one killing him to surrender while she is killing him? Cause we only have one shot at pulling her away before she will kill him.
It could be any number of things, it could even be nothing. To tell you guys would mean I could manipulate the dice.

It was either cockroaches, bastard, or trash. Went with the one that matched his trait. Since it is meant to get the blank to react to us instead of Shockwave.
Both the pilots you are-errrr, were facing are female.

No update today but happy 4th
 
It could be any number of things, it could even be nothing. To tell you guys would mean I could manipulate the dice.


Both the pilots you are-errrr, were facing are female.

No update today but happy 4th
Cool doesn't change anything though. They are both criminals and enemies that is all that matters gender means nothing here. But there is no way that letting a squadron leader get killed while we could have tried to save him would result in nothing happening that is not the way things work out in a military operation. At best she is placed on review on her own and is placed on a list of potential problems.

@LordEdric Any chance I could get your vote for my plan to pull the Blank away before she kills an important Squadron leader.
 
@manofjay I'm somewhat curious about the exact difference between the two bait options. Because I would interpret the maneuver one as Alex use an attempt to reposition herself for a better shot to bait Wolf 06, and the CHA to be a "Hey you over here!" is this roughly correct? Also will the dialogue for either of the plans change the threshold successes, modifiers and/or dice rolled?
 
Cool doesn't change anything though. They are both criminals and enemies that is all that matters gender means nothing here. But there is no way that letting a squadron leader get killed while we could have tried to save him would result in nothing happening that is not the way things work out in a military operation. At best she is placed on review on her own and is placed on a list of potential problems.

@LordEdric Any chance I could get your vote for my plan to pull the Blank away before she kills an important Squadron leader.
Look I know we disagree on the best approach here, but can you please not falsely characterization my plan here? Because per the update we're both using the action that involves baiting Wolf 06 we simply differ on the means of doing so.
 
Look I know we disagree on the best approach here, but can you please not falsely characterization my plan here? Because per the update we're both using the action that involves baiting Wolf 06 we simply differ on the means of doing so.
Yes except your plan has us trying to talk a psychopath down from killing her victim by getting her to surrender. My plan at least moves her away from Shockwave before we try anything else. I am putting the welfare of our own people before that of the enemy which is what we need to be doing.
 
Yes except your plan has us trying to talk a psychopath down from killing her victim by getting her to surrender. My plan at least moves her away from Shockwave before we try anything else. I am putting the welfare of our own people before that of the enemy which is what we need to be doing.
I'm rather perplexed over how you came to the conclusion of Wolf 06 being a psychopath from not only very little information, but what little we have involves her getting pissed due to her comrade getting injured. Like would you care expand about it?

No your plan has the same bait action mine does with both plans having an uncertain amount of modifiers due to the differences from the default option. From my pov the plan I involves making use of the swiftest means of distracting the opponent i.e a communications channel whereas maneuvering gives more time to the opponent whose heat axe is buried into Shockwave due to sensor returns requiring the pixie to move.

Hm. Just to make certain the aim of your plan is to use a taunt to bait Wolf 06 away, correct? Because to me that would be a CHA roll instead of maneuver, but we'll see when our QM replays to my post.
 
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Yes except your plan has us trying to talk a psychopath down from killing her victim by getting her to surrender. My plan at least moves her away from Shockwave before we try anything else. I am putting the welfare of our own people before that of the enemy which is what we need to be doing.

I'm rather perplexed over how you came to the conclusion of Wolf 06 being a psychopath from not only very little information, but what little we have involves her getting pissed due to her comrade getting injured. Like would you care expand about it?

No your plan has the same bait action mine does with both plans having an uncertain amount of modifiers due to the differences from the default option. From my pov the plan I involves making use of the swiftest means of distracting the opponent i.e a communications channel whereas maneuvering gives more time to the opponent whose heat axe is buried into Shockwave due to sensor returns requiring the pixie to move.

Hm. Just to make certain the aim of your plan is to use a taunt to bait Wolf 06 away, correct? Because to me that would be a CHA roll instead of maneuver, but we'll see when our QM replays to my post.
Chill, both of you. To answer your question Yun you are half right, one is mostly repositioning and the other is mostly talking. However, Wolf's talk action would affect the DC, just as yours would Yun.
Wolf I don't think you mean to start a fight but please try to agree to disagree. Yun this goes for you too, I know it's easy to get defensive but try to not be hostile about it.
It's hard to convey tone though text but please remember we are here to have fun.
 
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Chill, both of you. To answer your question Yun you are half right, one is mostly repositioning and the other is mostly talking. However, Wolf's talk action would affect the DC, just yours would Yun.
Wolf I don't think you mean to start a fight but please try to agree to disagree. Yun this goes for you too, I know it's easy to get defensive but try to not be hostile about it.
It's hard to convey tone though text but please remember we are here to have fun.
Hm. Good to know, and I'll try to avoid coming off as hostile in the future. Anyways it all comes down to the dice, and whether, or not the logic behind the winning plan accurately reflect reality within the engagement.

Actually would I be correct in presuming Wolf 06 will be rolling two dice take best result for everything? Since I assume that 74 is meant to be an 84 per the image to rolz.
 
Hm. Good to know, and I'll try to avoid coming off as hostile in the future. Anyways it all comes down to the dice, and whether, or not the logic behind the winning plan accurately reflect reality within the engagement.

Actually would I be correct in presuming Wolf 06 will be rolling two dice take best result for everything? Since I assume that 74 is meant to be an 84 per the image to rolz.

yeah wasn't trying to come off as hostile. Sorry about that.
Glad everyone is getting along, 06 was rolling 2s100s best of three on her roll as that's what the action she was taking required. Everyone gets at least best of 3 on battle turns.
 
Hm. Since I don't recall explicitly addressing this topic in any detail my thoughts on Wolf 06's current mental state, and a couple important things to contemplate while voting.

The mission: This is what she was programmed to follow, or rather she wasn't given anything else besides what is needed for war, therefore she'll adhere to until exposed to something else. In this engagement her mission is to take the snipers, and she is inclined to follows through on such actions. This is an issue as she currently has a heat axe buried in the shoulder, but thankfully Shockwave is in a pixie meaning the heat axe cuts through heavy lunar titanium at the speed of plot dice.... to be perfectly honest I'm surprised it cut at all as I recall Char clobbering the gundam like crazy to no avail, but he might've not had a heat axe at that point?

Side Note: The reason neither of the plans are shooting Wolf 06 is a pragmatic reasoning that unlike a heat axe Alex's railgun can either punch through LT like tissue piper, or make a very fatal dent if it hits the main body killing any squishy occupants due to the force of impact even when not overcharged.

Rage: It is a fact that Wolf 06 is angry, and I would consider it something that is heightening her focus on accomplishing her mission, or rather tunnel vision toward doing so. So from my pov making her more angry is liable to make her double down on finishing the mobile suit containing her heat axe especially if she is a Newtype who'd sense that Alex has zero intention of taking a shot to interrupt her melee engagement.

Emotional bond with Wolf 05: This is something that is shown to exist from the fact that Wolf 05 being hurt made Wolf 06 go from empty to rage. Any attempt to pursuit of a social resolution will involve Alex attempting to get ponder this bond, and trying to get Wolf 06 to start asking herself questions about anything. Because what is liable to follow are emotions associated with such things, and Alex is a Newtype who can give answers that hopefully create a connection that allows Alex to her surrender.

Possible Newtype: While we haven't been outright told this is true the fact that she is called a doppelganger, and a few other tidbits make it seem likely imo. If it is the case it makes a social resolution far more likely imo. Because it allows for things like using her bond with Wolf 05 to expose her to emotions beyond rage, and have Alex build a connection through answering questions.

Something to keep in mind is that based upon the fact that Wolf 06 was empty we're probably not dealing with a Neo Zeon Newtype whose been programmed* to follow a master, but a human being who was simply not given anything a regular person would acquire with time, and this makes her an incredibly brittle soldier. Given you know she lacks the life experiences to handle not being able to answer questions that resonate with her heart, mental hardening regular soldiers acquire through training to simply force such things aside to follow their orders, and/or the emotional maturity from growing up.

*Although a lot of the time they just wiped memories, and gave them a hook to use as means for acquiring a soldiers iirc, but TZ appears to have just left their doppelgangers as blank slates.
 
[X] Trash Talk and rage monster

I mean, it's a genuine shame, but we're talking about someone who hates the Federation so much that they went out of their way to join a terrorist group. Or rather because their friends were such people.

In a way it's mercy. 05 would never forgive 06 if she surrendered.
 
So after this battle, we need to get working on the Jupiter Sphere not only do we not want their people suffering since I am pretty sure they are partially funding TZ it is better if we make them more inclined towards us so we can cut TZ's supplies and support. We also need to keep researching both the ship and new MS technology. We also need to set up our black ops units already we need them so we can perform missions that are less flattering to our public image.
 
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