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We Stand Against the Stars (Gundam/Macross)

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manofjay said:
He was not the one who made the clone, he's just were they got the DNA from
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But how did he even have it he was not a part of the same program or branch and that means he couldn't and wouldn't be allowed access to the DNA of the others and even if he did that means the clone was made in less than a month since that was how long between getting the cloning tech and capturing the clone took.
 
Adventwolf said:
But how did he even have it he was not a part of the same program or branch and that means he couldn't and wouldn't be allowed access to the DNA of the others and even if he did that means the clone was made in less than a month since that was how long between getting the cloning tech and capturing the clone took.
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I honestly can't say more otherwise I get into spoilers.
 
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    • (I am so sorry this is so late)


    Target to the left.
    Where am I?
    Break it.
    What?
    The wrist mounted short blade cleaves the thin machine in two.
    Here? This was... a rebellion?
    New orders come, orders are absolute.
    That's.... Right?
    New targets.
    Interceptors, they stood no chance.
    Break them.
    A desperation move.
    Missiles fly, strike craft die in scores.
    They knew and died anyway.
    New targets-
    Another battlesu-
    A light.
    What is-
    New orders come, orders are absolute.
    These are not from command.
    New targets look like allies.
    They're our comrades!
    Orders are absolute.
    Please!
    Break them.
    I don't want to!
    The wrist mounted short blade, guts the target.
    She was my second!
    Missiles destroy target's reinforcements.
    They were avenging a fallen comrade!
    New target, capital ship.
    We're not equipped to-
    Destroy at all cost.
    We will all be killed.
    Allies die in scores.
    No!
    Target is destroyed.
    It wasn't worth it!
    New targets.
    No, please....
    Targets are battlesuits with V-shaped antennas.
    No!
    Orders are absolute.
    I won't!
    Orders are absolute.
    Why can't I-
    The wrist mounted short blade misses, the plasma gun does not.
    Captain!
    New target charges.
    Gamlin no!
    Orders are absolute.
    Run!
    The wrist mounted short blade impales the cockpit.
    Why?
    New target, attacks at long range.
    Shin, don't!
    Missiles swarm, destroying target's aim.
    Reposition Shin! Reposi-
    The plasma gun hits three times, wrist mounted short blade impales the cockpit.
    No!
    Two targets, one has a red arm.
    No more, please...
    Break them.
    Run Alex, Larry...
    Missiles cover advance.
    Please...
    Disabled the target with railweapon, red armed target intervenes before destruction.
    I wont!
    Break them.
    I refuse!
    Break them.
    Don't make me!
    Break them.
    I can't!
    BREAK THEM.
    No!
    Orders are absolute.
    No!
    Target-
    NO!


    Tivularrthak wakes up in a cold sweat, Mary Jane plays on Helper. She gently taps Alex's gift on the head to turn it off. She's fine. Their all fine.


    Alex wakes up with a start, she's not quite sure but for a moment she thought Tiv was in danger. I'll check on her in the morning.


    (News is coming later tonight)
     
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    • Well that is good now we know that there is a problem so we can deal with it before it becomes bad. We will need to spend time with Tiv next turn.
     
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    • The Federation has begun construction of Atlas Station, near Mars.

    Zeon unveils new 'Heavy' Destroyer

    Gründer Industries sells their new GI-MI-02 "Atgeirr" to the Jupiter Energy Fleet

    Tensions are high in the Jupiter sphere as a political group calling them selves 'The Greater Jupiter Party' boycotts Federation goods.

    Task Force Comet destroys a TZ Carrier, but the enemy officer escaped do to the interference of a blue Mobile Suit

    Unknown Mobile Suits attempted to raid a small village, but local forces intercepted them. They are still at large.

    A Small O'neil colony finished at Side 3

    (Zeon is almost finish with a large MA, Code Named: Zam)

    (The Zeonic Parliament is locked in a three way deadlock over major decisions)

    (Zeon is supplying MS to Side 5 Colony Defense Force)

    (Zeon has begun construction of a Battleship size ship)
     
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    • Just curious, but how much time has passed since the macross arrived on earth? I can't find that info anywhere, but that may just be me being dumb.
     
    manofjay said:
    UC 0079.01.01 aka turn 1
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    11 months? Ok, so we've still got like 9~ ish years till the zentraedi arrive, if they follow in the same timespan as they did in SDF macross (about ten years).
    Edit: thinking about it, 120 turns (10 years multiplied by 12 turns per year (Assuming they are one month increments) seems excessive, so I probably got something wrong somewhere, or they're going to be arriving a good bit earlier than 10 years time.
     
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    Okay, most of the news is good. Zeon is cranking out some truly impressive war machines (can't believe thats a good thing). and TZ has taken a severe blow with the destruction of that carrier. 2 things though. First off, great choice with the Atgeirr @manofjay, Knights of Sidonia is criminally underrated. Second (I cannot I believe I missed this) we should keep a close eye on Grunder considering their actions in their source material.
     
    Vehrec said:
    why do you have to ask that question? That's like asking for Bolters in a Warhammer Fantasy quest, or for Turbolasers in To Boldly Go.
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    Because I would like to know.

    After all, the other continuities are still part of the Gundam franchise with a relatively similar techbase. There is nothing really stopping Zeon from building a Tieren or a Man Rodi.

    I feel like I might have already asked and gotten an answer, but I cant remember, so I would like a reminder.
     
    Roaming_Guardian said:
    Because I would like to know.

    After all, the other continuities are still part of the Gundam franchise with a relatively similar techbase. There is nothing really stopping Zeon from building a Tieren or a Man Rodi.

    I feel like I might have already asked and gotten an answer, but I cant remember, so I would like a reminder.
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    No, you've got your own brand (two now in fact) brand of magic mecha allowing particle, and no selling beam weapons would kill any challenge the quest could give.
     
    Roaming_Guardian said:
    Because I would like to know.

    After all, the other continuities are still part of the Gundam franchise with a relatively similar techbase. There is nothing really stopping Zeon from building a Tieren or a Man Rodi.

    I feel like I might have already asked and gotten an answer, but I cant remember, so I would like a reminder.
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    Be serious now, what did you think the odds were you would get a yes? 5%? 1%? Or was it more like 50/50 because 'There is nothing really stopping Zeon from building a Tieren or a Man Rodi.' Nothing except the fact that existing beam weapons kinda invalidate those kinds of sluggish but heavily armored mobile suits, and they're not offering any advantages over a Zaku?
     
    manofjay said:
    No, you've got your own brand (two now in fact) brand of magic mecha allowing particle, and no selling beam weapons would kill any challenge the quest could give.
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    Thank you for answering.

    Also, if it isnt too much trouble, could you consider going back and adding the winning options to the Mobile Suit design threadmarks? There is no indication of what made it into the final design if you are just coming to the quest and are unaware of the list in Informational.
     
    Roaming_Guardian said:
    Thank you for answering.

    Also, if it isnt too much trouble, could you consider going back and adding the winning options to the Mobile Suit design threadmarks? There is no indication of what made it into the final design if you are just coming to the quest and are unaware of the list in Informational.
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    Sorry but messing with the threadmarks is only going to lead to pain and suffering for all involved.

    Update coming soon.
     
    Turn 12 UC 0079.12
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    • As the Federation reaches the end of the first year, for the first time in a long time, people believe in a better future.


    (You have 1 any action)(Only one Mega project can be committed to at a time)

    Political Actions (pick up to 2)
    Steps have been taken, but there is still much work to be done.

    [] The Red planet- Let the first new world mankind sets foot on be a mission of peace (DC Hard-Very Hard)
    -[] Invite Zeon

    [] Off world Mining- There are a large quantity of valuable "near" Earth asteroids, a few select investments will allow us to build a dedicated Space Station for the purpose of mining these asteroids (DC Medium)

    [] Von Braun integration- Von Barun has openly supported the Federation since the founding of Zeon, it's time to bring them in proper. (DC Very Hard 11% complete)

    [] Mega Project: The Lighthouse (Phase III of III) - A Space Elevator would greatly simplify our fleet expansion efforts (DC Hard)- All that's left is the counterweight.
    -[] Military Command Center
    -[] Drydock Hub
    -[] Armored Fortress
    -[] Hybrid (Pick 2)



    Military Actions (pick up to 2)
    If the there are aliens then there is an alien armada, it's time to prepare for war.

    [] Mega Project: Project Tower Shield- Earth to space Anti-Capital weapons are badly needed (0/3 Slots filled) Locked until Light House is complete
    -[] Stonehenge (Phase I of IV)- A series of Ultra-Heavy Railguns placed around the Earth in strategic locations. (DC Hard)
    -[] Megalith (Phase I of III)- A massive facility designed to fire Reaction Warhead tipped 'Super' Cruise Missiles into lower obit (DC Hard)
    -[] (Tech locked)
    -[] (Tech locked)
    -[] (Tech locked)

    [] Snicker-snack (overt)- Luna Marshal time is at an end, three teams of MS marching on their headquarters is overkill, but an excellent show of force (DC ??) (Incompatible with Snicker-snack (covert) )

    [] Atlas Station- Our new station is under way (DC 250)

    [] Design a new ship (Leads to mini vote)


    Intrigue Actions (pick up to two)
    Cloak and Dagger is distasteful but necessary.

    [] Zeonic Parlament manipulation - Their are four ways we can pull Zeon's parliament (DC??)
    -[] Increase the power of The Democratic Reformist party (Garma backed)
    -[] Increase the power of The Conservative League (Degwin and Dozle backed)
    -[] Increase the power of The Alliance for People's Deference (Gihren backed)
    -[] Increase the power of a smaller political party (Kycilia backed)

    [] Counter Ops- Same story, different malcontents (DC??)

    [] Snicker-snack (covert)- The quiet relocation of assets is a better fate then Luna Marshal deserves (DC ??) (Incompatible with Snicker-snack (overt) )

    [] Zeon RND- Lets see were they are hiding the good stuff (DC ??)


    Research Actions (until the alien ship is fully researched you may only pick one)
    Knowledge is power.

    [] Standard Newtype Testing- As we examine the newtype phenomenon further we will need a reliable method to prove whether an individual as a Newtype (DC??)

    [] Mobile Armor testing- Zeon's "MAs", well often over specialized, are highly effective in their given roll (Leads to Mini-vote)

    [] AEW (Alien Energy Weapon) Development- For a long time, our researchers have been looking for a roll for AEW Weapons on a MS scale. They may have found one. (DC?? 97% complete Tick Over)

    Alien Ship Actions (pick one)
    The big alien wreck on Macross Island (The 'Any Action' can't be used here)

    [] Continue Constitution (16 months left)

    [] Modify (Leads to mini-vote)

    Special Actions (must pick one and only one)
    Prisoner interrogation- Our pilots in the 118th managed to bring back a TZ officer who might know more about the inner workings of the organization, we can make him talk (DC varies)

    [] Normal interrogation

    [] Harsh interrogation

    [] 'Harsh' interrogation (This may kill him)

    [] Lock him up and throw away the key

    [] Execute him for crimes against the Federation


    Personal Actions (pick two) (Can now be voted for separately by using [] Character)
    Your finding your place in the squad, but you still have a lot of work to do.

    [] Optional missions

    -[] Jungle Dayz- A pair of 'GMs' are making havoc in the Congo, search and destroy.

    -[] Quiet Patrol- Taskforce Comet is dealing with a TZ related operation and as requested that we cover their usual Patrol route. (Timed: 2 months remain)

    [] Train a skill
    -[] With who? (optional)

    [] Learn a new skill (write in)
    -[] With who? (optional)

    [] Try to get to get to know them better
    -[] Who?

    [] Talk to some one else in the fleet
    -[] Who?

    [] Random event

    [] Modify MS-(write in)

    [] Change MS (Current Pixie Warlord)

    [] Bonus Event: With whom does Alex spend Christmas and New Years with (Pick any three characters Alex has met that are not Roy or Shin)

    (Vote opens at 1:00 pm CST tomorrow)
     
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    • Overt seems to be the better option. Send a message to the rest of those that would try to screw with everything. That or use both actions on Atlas instead and do the covert action on Luna Marshal.

    If we do mess with parliament then it is best to back Garma and Degwin and Dozle those three are the most stable leaders possible.

    We also need to sp be time with Give and do the comet patrol route.
     
    Adventwolf said:
    If we do mess with parliament then it is best to back Garma and Degwin and Dozle those three are the most stable leaders possible.
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    At the same time those 3 are also the most politically inept and passive in advancing their interest. While Gihren and Kycilia are awfully ambitious, they get things done. Though the Zabi family could be trying to pull a fast one on us, spending can't be checked if the parliament is in deadlock.
     
    VoidZero said:
    At the same time those 3 are also the most politically inept and passive in advancing their interest. While Gihren and Kycilia are awfully ambitious, they get things done. Though the Zabi family could be trying to pull a fast one on us, spending can't be checked if the parliament is in deadlock.
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    Gihren is too uncontrollable and Kycilia has too little power to be useful and is extremely dangerous herself. Yes the other three are less but Garma has the best charisma and is the actual heir, Dozle is the military man that has the ability to inspire loyalty in his men plus he is a very good commander overall. Their father is the figure head and the one to build what they had in the first place. As for being passive that isn't an issue all of them know what we are facing a overpowered fleet that will stop at nothing to kill them all. That alone will ensure that they are actively improving their power for the fight to come.

    Now as for the anchor station we made the thing a cargo lift and it is meant to be a major ship building expansion so I am thinking a straight drydock or a hybrid drydock and CnC station.
     
    Right, here's my plan draft, reasoning at the end.

    [] Turn 12 Plan Knight v 0.1
    Political Actions
    -[] Mega Project: The Lighthouse (Phase III of III) - A Space Elevator would greatly simplify our fleet expansion efforts (DC Hard)- All that's left is the counterweight.
    -[] Von Braun integration- Von Barun has openly supported the Federation since the founding of Zeon, it's time to bring them in proper. (DC Very Hard 11% complete)
    Military Actions
    -[] Snicker-snack (overt)- Luna Marshal time is at an end, three teams of MS marching on their headquarters is overkill, but an excellent show of force (DC ??) (Incompatible with Snicker-snack (covert) )
    Intrigue Actions
    -[] Counter Ops- Same story, different malcontents (DC??)
    Research Actions
    -[] AEW (Alien Energy Weapon) Development- For a long time, our researchers have been looking for a roll for AEW Weapons on a MS scale. They may have found one. (DC?? 97% complete Tick Over)
    Any Action
    -[] Standard Newtype Testing- As we examine the newtype phenomenon further we will need a reliable method to prove whether an individual as a Newtype (DC??)
    Alien Ship
    -[] Continue Constitution (16 months left)
    Special Actions
    -[] Normal interrogation
    Personal Actions
    -[] Optional missions
    --[] Quiet Patrol- Taskforce Comet is dealing with a TZ related operation and as requested that we cover their usual Patrol route. (Timed: 2 months remain)
    - [] Bonus Event: With whom does Alex spend Christmas and New Years with (Pick any three characters Alex has met that are not Roy or Shin)
    --[] I'm not sure yet

    So there's several actions here that are continue or finish. I prefer just going overt on Luna, smash that down. Especially since I don't want to start an almost-mega-project in the Atlas station, and we've done several rounds of ship-making already, better to give that a rest until we roll over some more tech (MS-scale energy weapons could also apply to point-defense-type weapons on ships, for instance).
    Counter-intel ops are basically always a requirement, but I'd rather not pull election/parliament interference. Way too much chance for blowback. I could be convinced around to peaking at Zeon R&D, but not messing with their government.
    I don't much care for Mobile Armors, they're the worst of both worlds between ships and Mobile Suits, to me.
    I think we already voted on what to do with the Macross, so I don't see a need to Modify, just continue.
    Harsh interrogation or worse is useless, multiple scientific studies show that torture, or stuff even close to torture, does not give accurate results. I think questioning him is worthwhile, but anything above "normal" is shooting ourselves in the foot.
    I want to cover Char's normal patrol routes to build goodwill, especially since it's a time-limited action. I'm also certain it won't actually be "quiet".
    And I want to do the Christmas action, though I'm honest enough to admit I don't have a good track on which characters we could interact with for this.
     
    [] [Plan] Orbital Expansion

    Political Actions (pick up to 2) + 1 any action
    -[] Von Braun integration- Von Barun has openly supported the Federation since the founding of Zeon, it's time to bring them in proper. (DC Very Hard 11% complete)
    -[] Mega Project: The Lighthouse (Phase III of III) - A Space Elevator would greatly simplify our fleet expansion efforts (DC Hard)- All that's left is the counterweight.
    --[] Drydock Hub
    -[] Off world Mining- There are a large quantity of valuable "near" Earth asteroids, a few select investments will allow us to build a dedicated Space Station for the purpose of mining these asteroids (DC Medium)


    Military Actions (pick up to 2)
    -[] Snicker-snack (overt)- Luna Marshal time is at an end, three teams of MS marching on their headquarters is overkill, but an excellent show of force (DC ??) (Incompatible with Snicker-snack (covert)
    -[] Atlas Station- Our new station is under way (DC 250)


    Intrigue Actions (pick up to two)
    -[] Zeonic Parlament manipulation - Their are four ways we can pull Zeon's parliament (DC??)
    --[] Increase the power of The Democratic Reformist party (Garma backed)
    -[] Counter Ops- Same story, different malcontents (DC??)

    Research Actions (until the alien ship is fully researched you may only pick one)
    -[] AEW (Alien Energy Weapon) Development- For a long time, our researchers have been looking for a roll for AEW Weapons on a MS scale. They may have found one. (DC?? 97% complete Tick Over)
    -[] Standard Newtype Testing- As we examine the newtype phenomenon further we will need a reliable method to prove whether an individual as a Newtype (DC??)

    Alien Ship Actions (pick one)
    -[] Continue Construction (16 months left)
    --[] Add Zeon Teams

    Special Actions (must pick one and only one)
    Prisoner interrogation- Our pilots in the 118th managed to bring back a TZ officer who might know more about the inner workings of the organization, we can make him talk (DC varies)
    -[] Harsh interrogation

    Personal Actions (pick two)
    [] [Character]
    -[] Optional missions
    --[] Quiet Patrol- Taskforce Comet is dealing with a TZ related operation and as requested that we cover their usual Patrol route. (Timed: 2 months remain)
    -[] Try to get to get to know them better
    --[] With who? (Tiv)
    -[] Bonus Event: With whom does Alex spend Christmas and New Years with (Pick any three characters Alex has met that are not Roy or Shin)
    --[] Tiv
    --[] Mother
    --[] Gamlin

    Right here are the choices for this turn.

    For political keep working on the moon boys and the elevator with a focus on a larger drydock to increase production and size. Plus getting more materials and resources to fuel that expansion. That glut of resources are going to be very important when we start expanding into the rest of the system.

    Military put in the work on Atlas and take down Luna Marshal big time as a show of force and to regain the confidence of the rest of the Earth Sphere. Combined with our actions recently in fighting and winning it should turn more people to our side.

    Intrigue do some counter ops to maintain security and give Garma some more support to counter his brother.

    Research is a tick over for AEW which should give us new options for Mobile weapons and should unlock another tech for the defense of Earth Mega Project.

    Ship just keep on working on it with the Zeon teams.

    Interrogation is just short of killing the guy to get any information out of him.

    Personal is doing the patrol to get it out of the way and to get better relation with Zeon and with Task force Comet. Spending time with Tiv because we need to figure out how to fully break the conditioning she has plus spending time on Christmas with Tiv and Gamlin as the three of them are the newest members of the team and would have the best chance to bond. Plus Alex barely get to spend time with her mom since she is busy building the SDF this entire time.
     
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