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So railway and telegraph lines might be a bust right now. But what about towers using morse code - they won't require anything connecting them inbetween - and depending on how theyre made they'll have a good range, quick info delivery, and magic and/or runes could make them safe.

I could invision telegraphing towers dedicated to let say Verena might allow for fullproofing (If the operatörs can identify the flashing light being verified Verena_telegraph) from chaos/evil. With the added bonus of eventually creating worshipboost from all the message flying everywhichway! 🤔😁

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SIs into fantasy settings too.

It's vexing at times and is the main reason I'm not a fan of research.
Its sometimes 'ok' with SI's in that they 'know' the steps.

but its rare that they don't take it too far. knowing gunpower and knowing the ingredients is one thing, knowing the ratio's, and how to measure them without the internet on hand is another.

and even if you're someone that can do that, doesn't mean you know metalwork enough to explain to people how to make a gun. etc etc

I can totally see the average person being able to remake a few simple things or something that they were skilled in, but the SI would need to be one of the very few top engineering-historians in the world to actually make real progress with just what they could remember.

Edit: and only if they land in a time period that the specialised in.
 
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I could invision telegraphing towers dedicated to let say Verena might allow for fullproofing (If the operatörs can identify the flashing light being verified Verena_telegraph) from chaos/evil. With the added bonus of eventually creating worshipboost from all the message flying everywhichway! 🤔😁

GNU Terry Pratchett
Oh, that "evil" being spoken as something objective.
And how do you exactly expect dedicating them to Verena, even it would have any metaphysical effect, to ward against chaos? Miraculously refuse to transmit messages by anyone knowingly or unknowingly serving chaos - and you even need to properly define "serve chaos", one could say that anyone living and thinking serves it if one is so inclined - or what?
 
And how do you exactly expect dedicating them to Verena, even it would have any metaphysical effect, to ward against chaos?
You should ask Verenan clergy about that. Properly answering your question would require access to the Lore of Verena just to start, which Mathilde doesn't have and it's not in the spellbooks threadmark, and then they probably have rituals too.
 
That's the case in 40k, not Fantasy. There's non-Chaos gods in this setting, who embody all sorts of aspects concerning life and society and war. In Fantasy, you have to outright devote your actions to Chaos to serve it.
Note "one could say". The point was that "serving chaos" is incredibly ill-defined concept, and telegraph warding against chaos is even more nebulous and therefore meaningless group of words.
Also what you say isn't strictly proven, as I remember, emotion-of-everyone-feeding-chaos 40k mechanism could hold to some weaker degree (or it could not, specific details about hidden metaphysics would be up to QM).
 
Its sometimes 'ok' with SI's in that they 'know' the steps.

but its rare that they don't take it too far. knowing gunpower and knowing the ingredients is one thing, knowing the ratio's, and how to measure them without the internet on hand is another.

and even if you're someone that can do that, doesn't mean you know metalwork enough to explain to people how to make a gun. etc etc

I can totally see the average person being able to remake a few simple things or something that they were skilled in, but the SI would need to be one of the very few top engineering-historians in the world to actually make real progress with just what they could remember.

Edit: and only if they land in a time period that the specialised in.

Yeah. Even in Dr Stone, a manga whose premise is that there is a super absurd guy who is a super absurd genius with super absurd memory (he'd probably have Learning 60 on this quest's scale, at worst) trying to uplift the world back to its previous levels post apocalypse, he cannot do it with his talents alone and needs other specialists.

That is what uplift attempts on quests often do not understand, even though even a super absurd shonen does. (not saying as a take that, I occassionally forget that too, in my enthusiasm, its human to want to share beneficial knowledge)
 
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That's the case in 40k, not Fantasy. There's non-Chaos gods in this setting, who embody all sorts of aspects concerning life and society and war. In Fantasy, you have to outright devote your actions to Chaos to serve it.

While it's almost certainly the case in 40K, and may well not be the case in Fantasy, it also may be the case (as gods may overlap). Certainly there are sources that claim that it's the case in Fantasy. Whether you believe those sources or not is a judgement call.
 

I'm not quite ready to start writing yet, but I'll break with tradition and call it here after one day of moratorium and three days of voting.

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Oh, that "evil" being spoken as something objective.
And how do you exactly expect dedicating them to Verena, even it would have any metaphysical effect, to ward against chaos? Miraculously refuse to transmit messages by anyone knowingly or unknowingly serving chaos - and you even need to properly define "serve chaos", one could say that anyone living and thinking serves it if one is so inclined - or what?

I did pick Verena as an example, well Morr then, or make it an enchantment project doesnt the Light college have antichaos spells.
Obviously it would havnt catch everything, the point being not message sent between two towers - but rather a way to verify if it came from an Imperial tower in the first place.
 
Just picking up on a previous topic, about archmages versus artillery, something that's probably relevant is that archmages aren't the only people of mass destruction that the forces of order have. The best Grail Knights are examples - such as Reolus, who personally slew two chaos giants and then broke a beastman horde in a battle by killing so many of them, solo-ed a dragon and an entire undead army by carving his way through it to reach and kill the necromancer. He was finally killed when he faced a regenerating Chaos Lord of Khorne. He slew the Chaos Lords' attendant Chaos Champions, but even though he cut off the Lord's arm and impaled his head through the face with his sword the Khornate's blessing of regeneration meant that even lethal wounds weren't enough to put him down.
 
Some more typo-smashing from today's reading. Part One here.

Turn Three
his quill scratches it's way
it's -> its
it is the man who's flaw you cannot find
who's -> whose
Necromancy isn't a colour in it's own right
it's -> its

Turn Three Results
shouting profanities in lingua praestantia
lingua praestantia -> Lingua Praestantia (for consistency with later usage)
it's -> its
HOW WELL DO YOU THE LESSONS GO
DO YOU THE -> DO THE
the Mound has been sited
sited -> sighted
pulse of deathly energy to *somewhere*
asterisks instead of bold or italics
laying in haphazard piles
laying -> lying
you *feel* Dhar pulse through your soul
asterisks instead of bold or italics
the ancient dwarvern magic
dwarvern -> dwarven
The evidence of it's passing
it's -> its
you are *wearing* a horse
asterisks instead of bold or italics
sees only the trade of food
trade -> tray
"By Sigmar, is that a griffin?!"
griffin -> griffon
Judicious application of bribes and mindhole
mindhole -> Mindhole

Turn Four
the Brettonian wines
Brettonian -> Bretonnian

Turn Four Results
see a glimpse tunnel opening
glimpse tunnel opening -> glimpse of a tunnel opening
"And in exchange?" The Averlander asks.
The -> the
it's -> its
you talk business in him
in him -> with him
your charge carries you past him him.
past him him -> past him
Another spell once as natural as breathing resurface
resurface -> resurfaces
and subsequently by a drink for
by -> buy
little cubby holes store mail in
holes store -> holes to store
He feels it's weight
it's -> its

Turn Five
I want to know how feasable
feasable -> feasible
"You know of it?" You ask, hopefully.
You -> you

Turn Five Results
who attempted feed us poor information
attempted feed -> attempted to feed
on top of the Ledgers placed
Ledgers -> ledgers
it's mischief apparently done
it's -> its
There is a couple of other reasons
is -> are
that wants to outrage their peasants
...should peasants be parents here? I can imagine either.
replicate the dwarvern gyrocopter
dwarvern -> dwarven
a former Brettonian peasant
Brettonian -> Bretonnian
it's a bit trickier to mindhole
mindhole -> Mindhole
Light And It's Properties
It's -> Its
 
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But what about towers using morse code - they won't require anything connecting them inbetween - and depending on how theyre made they'll have a good range, quick info delivery, and magic and/or runes could make them safe.
The towers may not require anything between them, but they do require the lack of anything between them to create a clear line of sight - that requirement is not necessarily easy to fulfill when so much of the Empire is covered in ancient forests. Which in turn requires either really tall towers to get over the old-growth forest treeline (they would need to be something like 15-20 stories tall) or you'd need particularly well-cleared roads that are both wide and straight enough that boughs/branches wouldn't get in the way for the entire stretch between towers.

So while it could be done, it'd be a fair bit bigger of an up front investment needed than you might normally expect, and these sorts of things aren't exactly small investments in the first place.
 
Hmmm... thinking about it... te most worrying vote option we could even ... would be... "become the third coming of Nagash"

Cuz if we become the third... who was second?
 
Nagash

He came, he saw, he conquered, he died.
Then he came back.
Well, first he had his whole stint with Nehekhara ending with Skaven tearing him to pieces and throwing those pieces in his furnaces.

Then he came back as a shade and fought Sigmar over his crown, then took too many hammer-blows to the face.

Then he came back as a giant skeleton and has been sulking in Nagashizzar since then.
 
Hmmm... thinking about it... te most worrying vote option we could even ... would be... "become the third coming of Nagash"

Cuz if we become the third... who was second?
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