Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
We're a Grey Wizard.
If the common folk never realise we saved them, it means we were able to act in time. (And had The Protector turned off)
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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If the common folk never realise we saved them, it means we were able to act in time. (And had The Protector turned off)
- Location
- Utrecht
I'm not saying instinctively cleanse dhar.
Just that something that is incredibly hard under the Elven paradigm might actually be more achievable under the developing human paradigm.
Elves can't or don't do "leaps of logic" that Humans naturally do thanks to their mono-wind attunement. Perhaps a Human could do that leap, bypassing the complexity.
The Human (empire) paradigm is based on the Elf paradigm, and is probably only just starting to diverge enough where a human can be better than an elf at the human paradigm.
They can count the number of spontaneously arising zombies. Yes Silvania is that bad.
- Location
- Hyperborea
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Count of Sylvania
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Count of Sylvania
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I suggest we cleanse Sylvania of environmental Dhar by drawing all of it into Mathilde's body.
Surely nothing bad could come from that, we have Kragg's Belt after all. Kragg's handiwork would never break from something ultimately made by umgi works. Definitely.
Surely nothing bad could come from that, we have Kragg's Belt after all. Kragg's handiwork would never break from something ultimately made by umgi works. Definitely.
- Location
- Utrecht
I'm actually OK with that as long as we use the Rune to burn it off and Ulgu to drag it in.
one of the things about Markgraf of Eastern Stirland that makes me want it is that... well, just how rare a job opportunity it is.
for one, the title, while being arguably the 3d highest (official) rank in the empire, is only around when needed.
and Mathy being offered the job is the result of:
A) Newly retaken land
B) that land needing someone with our skillset (anti-vampire/ anti-necromancy) and not bad at running shit and being a general when needed.
C) Having an Elector count, the only ones allowed to give the title, trusting Mathy enough to give the title most likely to create a rivel job to her.
there is a lot of elements to the opportunity that won't be there in 10 years time. (unless the guy/gal that Roseia picks after us bites it. pun intended)
and yes, that can be said for some of the other jobs, but there will be opportunities of 'similar' level in the future.
the rank only lower then elector? we aren't seeing that level of a job until we start eyeing
Matriarchs of the grey order/ Supreme Matriarchs.
edit: I will admit that the same can be said about the tutor job, as the rarest and highest 'unofficial' rank on the list.
for one, the title, while being arguably the 3d highest (official) rank in the empire, is only around when needed.
and Mathy being offered the job is the result of:
A) Newly retaken land
B) that land needing someone with our skillset (anti-vampire/ anti-necromancy) and not bad at running shit and being a general when needed.
C) Having an Elector count, the only ones allowed to give the title, trusting Mathy enough to give the title most likely to create a rivel job to her.
there is a lot of elements to the opportunity that won't be there in 10 years time. (unless the guy/gal that Roseia picks after us bites it. pun intended)
and yes, that can be said for some of the other jobs, but there will be opportunities of 'similar' level in the future.
the rank only lower then elector? we aren't seeing that level of a job until we start eyeing
Matriarchs of the grey order/ Supreme Matriarchs.
edit: I will admit that the same can be said about the tutor job, as the rarest and highest 'unofficial' rank on the list.
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- Location
- Greece
A very similar proposition has been made about Praag. I suspect the answer to the proposition above would be the exact same. The QM's answer to using the belt to dedharize Praag was
- Location
- Utrecht
I just made the post for the novelty of agreeing with Omegahugger about Dhar use, not because I think it's practical
- Location
- Earth
As of turn 25 he was still on Roswita's council, and we don't have any reason to think otherwise, since that sort of change should pop up on our EIC network:
Bit of an Odd question Boney.
Has Mathildie's Martial training and experience surpassed Ablehiem's yet?
Has Mathildie's Martial training and experience surpassed Ablehiem's yet?
Burned_Cookie
Very tired girl.
- Location
- Plato´s cave.
- Pronouns
- She/Her/It/Its
Now if it had a lot more Dhar.... wait why am I doing your job for you? I don´t want to be a necromancer.
I think? he once rolled a base of 24.
but I might be imagining that.
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
On the other hand, were they told the same by Lady Magister Dame Margavine Dammerlichreirter, they would not dare not to believe it!
- Location
- Utrecht
She's not quite there yet.
- Location
- Manchester, UK
- Pronouns
- He/They
I wonder if an anvil-of-doom level Valaya's Vengeance could cleanse a meaningful portion? Not all of Praag, and certainly not all Sylvania, but maybe a battlefield size region, like say Drakenfel castle itself?
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
Btw, that's a low estimate of his ability, as he supposedly had polearm masteries for days. As in, a runefang was a straight downgrade in his effective martial and Boney described his skill with polearms as the stuff elector-countships are being awarded for.
Edit: huh, maybe that's why Roswita seems to dislike the runefang so? She knew her Da was invincible with a polearm in his hand, but he just had to use that stupid chunk of gromril in that battle?
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- Location
- Oklahoma
The 16-20 that we had before getting the exact number was the low estimate caused by the runefang, 24 is the real martial score.
(This being in the context of someone asking for his exact stats now that he's dead, and the explanation given for why his martial was far over the estimate on the character sheet.)
He likely still had circumstantial martial bonii like Mathilde does, but 24 is an accurate representation of his regular martial.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I think we should avoid prejudging the specific degree to which any particular project yields actionable results for the world and/or is boring until after this vote is over and we get the "more information about the job" Mathilde goes for. This goes for Swamp Town as well as Waystones.
One of the things that makes this quest stand out, IMO, is Boney's ability to spring unintended and unforeseen first-and-second-order consequences that nevertheless make total sense and end up recontextualizing a lot of what we've done. That's why I'm trying, despite my pro-dwarf pro-K8P bias, to keep an open mind and imagine things that might be capable of changing my mind and tilt me towards something new, like in the romance vote.
It is very easy to make up a case for a particular thing and judge that case wanting or a slam-dunk based entirely on those invented positions. Let's let Boney make the cases for the stuff we're interested in learning more about, and content ourselves for now with deciding simply "which things pique our interest enough to learn more about."
One of the things that makes this quest stand out, IMO, is Boney's ability to spring unintended and unforeseen first-and-second-order consequences that nevertheless make total sense and end up recontextualizing a lot of what we've done. That's why I'm trying, despite my pro-dwarf pro-K8P bias, to keep an open mind and imagine things that might be capable of changing my mind and tilt me towards something new, like in the romance vote.
It is very easy to make up a case for a particular thing and judge that case wanting or a slam-dunk based entirely on those invented positions. Let's let Boney make the cases for the stuff we're interested in learning more about, and content ourselves for now with deciding simply "which things pique our interest enough to learn more about."
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Instructions unclear, used template as the font.
(This is actually a knockoff of @MooseHowl's version over here, but I saw the template and couldn't resist.)
I would like to request that this get's added to the Media Threadmark.
- Location
- Utrecht
Mathilde goes up to +28 with her greatsword, and +38 when defending a chokepoint. That's pretty up there...
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I know that this isn't even remotely the point, but the specific wording here made me curious.
Do you think that if we brough Abel back as a proper Undead Monstrosity, like a Wight or something of similar weight, that his Martial would go up?
- Location
- Oklahoma
Greatsword proficiency is just rolled into her 'base' martial. She has 33 when Master Swords procs, either through a chokepoint or enraged/unthinking opponents.
She does potentially have 38 with master swords and Shadow Steed, but opportunities to use Shadow Steed in combat are fairly rare as she's usually fighting undergound/indoors.
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tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
- Location
- Ukraine
Okay, I meant Loremaster-at-Large. For clarity's sake, I've edited my analysis post to reflect that explictly