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Lets throw another fifteen on a sword, and see what happens.
His disapproval might transcend the usual rune rules, as it has done once.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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His disapproval might transcend the usual rune rules, as it has done once.
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Bonus- it'd be hard to argue against the ancient tradition of 'when a Dwarf Runelord does stoop to making runic weapons for a deserving manling, those weapons are properly runeswords'.
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Because really, the only way to keep a runic item out of grudges and dwarven hands is to make it a sword, IE from the beigning not designed for dwarves. Otherwise, then the manling inevitably dies in their short life, the dwarves will be moving heaven and earth to return the dwarven artifact that was obviously just borrowed to the manling.
That's not a bad question, really. @BoneyM Should Mat some day die, what happens to the Belt and the Seed? Not to mention the bloody Liber Mortis. Does she have any kind of Living Will, or is she being all young and thinking she has time? Or is that too much going into details?
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Mind, I'm raising something of a fuss because I like the greatsword aesthetic. It's a classic at this point, and it's sad that it becomes a severly worse choice under the standard rules, if the only option of keeping it is blowing a Master Rune. Because the greatweapon perks are balanced against "use a shield" and "use another weapon", not against "you could have picked a Master Rune".
A Hand Weapon with a set of good runes + our pistol is fantastic. Especially as we could enchant the pistol, too, but just as is, the pistol could let us make another3 1 attack (at -1 to hit, so 4+ in close quarters if I'm not mistaken, which is not bad) at S4, Armor Piercing (so ignore anything worse than 4+, which itself becomes 6+).
You know, I think the runes in the 8th edition book are pretty well balanced, for the most part.
Because I want all of them
It feels tempting to just have a golf-club equivalent for runic weapons. Look at what triple Daemon Slaying Runes do: Always Hit and Wound on 2+, ignore Ward saves, Multiple Wounds (d3).
It's like three Master Runes in one weapon, due the caveat it only works on daemonic shit.
A Hand Weapon with a set of good runes + our pistol is fantastic. Especially as we could enchant the pistol, too, but just as is, the pistol could let us make another
You know, I think the runes in the 8th edition book are pretty well balanced, for the most part.
Because I want all of them
It feels tempting to just have a golf-club equivalent for runic weapons. Look at what triple Daemon Slaying Runes do: Always Hit and Wound on 2+, ignore Ward saves, Multiple Wounds (d3).
It's like three Master Runes in one weapon, due the caveat it only works on daemonic shit.
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Legally, her possessions would revert to the Grey College. The Dwarves would consider it their duty to see to it that happens. If she had a spouse or children, the College would pass on anything they judge as suitably mundane and harmless, but as is it would find uses for all of it, and most of her belongings would end up with various apprentices and journeyman that could make use of it. The Seed would be returned to the Jade College. The Liber Mortis? What Liber Mortis? The Grey College knows nothing of any Liber Mortis. And anyone stupid enough to ask them about it soon won't know anything of it, either.
The Belt is an unknown. Kragg might lay a claim to it, as might Belegar. Zhufbar might think they have a claim, as it is the Runic commemoration of Castle Drakenhof being destroyed. If it did make it back to the Grey College it would probably end up wherever the Empire's magical wargear is stored between crises.
Sinsystems
Patron Librarian
Lets not give the Liber Mortis to someone we honestly don't know all that much about.You know what would be amazing?
If we arranged with the Dwarves to hand our gear (Seed, Belt, Liber Mortis box and enchanted Robe) to Panoramia. I like the girl! Let's hand the journeywoman the gear of an archmage!
Once we're dead, she isn't our problem any more
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Indeed! Let's give it to Anton instead, that's someone we can trust.
(More seriously, the book should go to Roswita or another of Abel's heirs. Good thing about the magic-hating is that she's unlikely to misuse it)
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Consequences don't matter when we're dead. However, OOC hilarity and epilogues do!
Giving it to Anton is actually an even better idea though. Tell him to keep ti safe and hidden until Sylvania opens up again - then he's to [Classified]
We should give the box to Belegar and ask him to keep it till we die, then give it to Van Hal's heirs.
When Mathilde has drained the Liber Mortis dry of transferable skills, she should consider whether she can hand it into the Grey College for favours, pretending that she just found it.
They may be privately doubtful, but by then she should be publicly untouchable, and blaming the skaven is pretty uncontradictable. Particularly as Necromantic corruption isn't that subtle, and other Magisters would notice under close examination.
Something that is interesting is where the enchanted box came from and how it works. It seems very likely that it predates the Colleges, so is it elf work? Dwarf? Who else is there in that's not evil?
Why would we want to do that? What use would he make of it?
They may be privately doubtful, but by then she should be publicly untouchable, and blaming the skaven is pretty uncontradictable. Particularly as Necromantic corruption isn't that subtle, and other Magisters would notice under close examination.
Something that is interesting is where the enchanted box came from and how it works. It seems very likely that it predates the Colleges, so is it elf work? Dwarf? Who else is there in that's not evil?
Why would we want to do that? What use would he make of it?
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Pistols don't work like that. They can fire however many shots there are in their profile, but only when used as ranged weapon. As a melee weapon they just grant +1 Attack, exactly as if you had a second hand weapon in that hand.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
When you're dealing with an artifact like the Liber Mortis, not being able to use it is an advantage.
Which incidentally is one of the advantages of giving it to Anton. There's almost zero chance for him to turn into an insane necromancer, and if he does he's likely to try and bring us back which is a-okay in my book.
If we get to decide our will retroactively, it's only common sense to angle for a recipient that resurrects the quest, after all.
Akasha
The Only Truth
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Alas, that also means he's unlikely to know just how important and dangerous the book truly is, which means the secrecy won't be as absolute. Even us telling him would have him *know* but not *understand*. Also, even if Anton is a swell guy who won't use it or sell it, we have no way to know if his successors will be the same way. That seems to be a theme here, actually. Wilhemina's sons are greedy shitheads that would be fine with seeing their province suffer, so long as they get the gold. Our lovely new Elector Countess... Well, you already know about her.
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The copy of the Liber Mortis they already have is an incredibly valuable artifact that the Empire has been making safe if cautious use of for a very long time.
You need to be cautious about using it, but it isn't a memetic hazard or source of corruption. It's a source of knowledge that's too dangerous to be in the wrong hands but too valuable not to be in the right ones at critical times.
Mathilde can learn what she can cross-apply to other fields from it before giving it to the authorities that have demonstrated that they can be trusted to decide who it should be used by and when.
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- France
If this were true, then why did Van Hal have it?
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- Leeds
Fifteen?
We got fifteen for letting the dwarves blow up a castle for us, when they were already out of the way to help us. Now we're going to help win back one of their karaks.
Lets drop thirty on a sword, you cheapskate.
I think You are severly underestimating reputation of Liber Mortis and length that College and Empire itself could go if they know she read it. Even if she was the most famous and renown mage in empire, she would still face serious threat of being executed if her having a book is known. Presence of the book would cast shadow on all she did in the past. Likely result would be Grey mages wiping out Mathilde's memories about content of the book - if she is lucky. Either way, she would be suspected for rest of her life. College reputation and favours? Should could just forget about them.
The book is considered the most corrupting and evil book whose existence is known to public. It is like having and reading a necronomicon.
So no, if it was any other book, giving it to College could be useful. But this book? No. Just no.
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He was a descendant of a paranoid line of witch hunters descended from a notorious necromancer.
You do know that trusted scholars and Magisters are already allowed to read and study the contents of the complete copy of the Liber Mortis that the Empire already has, right? They know that it's not inherently corrupting or a memetic threat. The knowledge inside is dangerous, but it's knowledge they are happy for people they trust to study, and by implication, try to turn to good ends.
She also doesn't have to admit that she's read it. Or even that she knows what's in the box.
The Liber Mortis is famous, but it's not one of the Nine Books of Nagash, or one of the Chaotic books that are memetic hazards.
Keeping the book away from the proper authorities would clearly be very problematic. Handing it in as soon as she finds it would presumably be much less of an issue.
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- Russia
Citation needed.
Public don't know anything about any magic books, especially whether or not one is more corrupting then the other. There are copies of Liber Mortis, redacted to different degrees, available to those that have need-to-know. There is an (almost) unredacted one that Grand Theogonist used during one of the Vampire Wars.
Books of Nagash are more corrupting than Liber Mortis. Hell, random Chaos tome is more corrupting since it is full of memetic hazards, while Liber Mortis is not.
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