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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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@BoneyM, will Mathilde be signing her anonymous papers as Lord Magister Grey? It would fit the convention thus far but considering there are only eight Grey Lord Magisters it feels like that would make it significantly easier to identify her as the author.
 
kfrar said:
Regarding money-making - we may not need to report our income any more, but I'm pretty sure outright shilling our services out on the open market would qualify as a breach of the Vow of Poverty. Set a bad example for the baby Greys and all that.

Not that I think it would be hard to make money in a pinch, but we would want to be at least a bit subtle doing so.
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IIRC greys are allowed to make money, just not retain it or spend it unless it's for something practical. Selling enchanted items to reputable clients and donating all the profit to the Grey College or Shallyans is within both the spirit and letter of the law. Same with spending the money on mercenaries to accompany you into an unexplored region of the Grey Mountains to recover an artefact of Great and Terrible power.
 
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So I wonder if Mathilde will be able to get the dwarf to start tank warfare. One of the dwarfs biggest problem is their slow moving armies and lack of bodies. But tanks help them by essentially allowing them to use there strength of defense warfare but making it mobile.
 
Nurgle said:
So I wonder if Mathilde will be able to get the dwarf to start tank warfare. One of the dwarfs biggest problem is their slow moving armies and lack of bodies. But tanks help them by essentially allowing them to use there strength of defense warfare but making it mobile.
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No engineer, but we are the originator of a related, groundbreaking (to dwarves) offensive military doctrine. ;) :V
Alliterate said:
What are we going to call our new form of high-tempo, aggressive overrun warfare, though?

Mathildes' Blitz-Attacking Krieg Assault?

Warfare Execution Blitz Engagement and Reconnaissance?
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WEBER doctrine wasn't elemental to the recovery of Vlag, but perhaps it will yet see use at Dum.
 
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DXCS said:
How about a college for Runesmiths with Kragg and Thorek as co-headmasters as the boon. While every Runesmith/Runelord would still create runic items for and go on campaigns with their Karak, they all would have the duty to spend at least some time teaching at the college. This pooling of knowledge would be incredible with each Runelord/Runesmith focused on teaching their particular speciality. Such a system would actually be able to produce students that Kragg would find worthy of teaching his most esoteric knowlege to. Karag Ziflin would be perfect for that: The vaults would be used to store Anvils of Doom and AV, as well as host the Anvil workshop for maintenance and AV-recharging. Furthermore there would he the Runesmith-guildhall where every Rumesmith/Runelord will find lodging and there are establishments that serve food and drinks to them. Because there are so many Runesmiths at one place here, Karag Ziflin would have the largest temple of Thungi in the entire Karaz Ankor and a massive communal workshop as well as seperate adjacent workshops for Runesmiths that value privacy. In the workshop area there would be places set aside specifically for rediscovering the mysteries of Golden Age runelore and the creation of new runes. While a single individual, even one as exceptional as Kragg, is likely doomed to never solve a mystery like Bok, a group of Runesmith-researchers each with their unique perspective and skills will have an excellent chance. Finally there would be the library of runelore with a reading room offering stunning views of the area. Every book the Karaz Ankor has on runes would be available here and every Runesmith/Runelord would be encouraged to add to it.
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With every sentence I read, I can feel the weight of the Grudge being tallied by the Cult of Thungni grow heavier. They'll never go for it.

Fanhunter696 said:
I would say that our two greatest products for enchantment would be our Mastered Shadowsteed and Rite of Way...

The others are useful, but those two are total game changers
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Rite of Way is pretty useful, but it's a Grey-only Battle Magic - two things that dramatically limit its effectiveness - and it'd be weaker when cast by anyone who isn't Mathilde. It's also a spell for very niche circumstances, though it admittedly excels at those.

Shadowsteed is better, being pretty much always useful and not a Battle Magic, but being Grey-only again limits it to an eighth of a lesser spell.

I'd say the Aethyric Armour mastery is more impressive. It's a Lesser Magic and is pretty much always useful to anyone who isn't a Gold who's done their Gildings.
 
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Cheap Orange Knofe said:
it's a good thing that k8p is outside the empire. And that we can act under the authority of a Dawi king/institution to allow us the ability to bypass the law.

And with the return of yet another hold, we'll have the political clout to do so. Single-handed almost even.
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Do keep in mind that the Dwarves have their OWN problems with research institutions - basically all research done by dwarves is done by guilds, for guilds and enshrined as guild secrets. Where dwarves share research at all its collaborations between individual Masters and sealed to those Masters and worthy heirs, though of course, said Masters are free to use what they learned and develop something else entirely that they can then share, but being dwarf guild members, they wouldn't share derivatives even to their own guild normally.

Belegar's Boon does not grant him the ability to override Guild Law, nor encourage radical thinking to the extent needed. The loophole exploited there is that Guild Law is silent on the secrets of other people who've been so foolish as to write books and put into circulation, and of course while dwarf masters of their craft would not be so foolish as to do the same for their secrets, they are perfectly willing to take advantage of such fools, and grumble loudly about how they got things wrong where other, less magnificently bearded masters can hear.

Likewise a Branch College focused on research would not be allowed to induct foreign magic users into their premises, but they do provide basing and support for a lot of the more eccentric magisters who, not being on Imperial soil, are not legally obligated to do anything about these magic users running around provided Dhar and Daemons aren't running around, and can instead have some pie and beer while chatting about magic instead.

And that means in turn that people looking to fund magical research would not need to do the politically complex work, but rather just look for promising nerds in the nearest pub or library with money to throw at them. Most of this money then goes into the pie economy :V
 
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Deathbybunnies said:
Rite of Way is pretty useful, but it's a Grey-only Battle Magic - two things that dramatically limit its effectiveness - and it'd be weaker when cast by anyone who isn't Mathilde. It's also a spell for very niche circumstances,
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That it's battle magic and grey magic only has no bearing on utility because we are talking about enchantment.
Any knightly order would beg Mathilde for one (or drown her in gold) because of how much tactical flexibility it adds to cavalry.

Rough Terrain is used by commanders to protect flanks, but rite of way turns that tactic against its users.
That is definitely not 'niche'. Not as applicable as massive fireballs, but still extremely useful in a broad range of circumstances.
Not to mention its logistical uses
 
Rite of Way's true game changing potential is in the fact that it's meta magic, magic casting magic. From the spell list its the first meta magic spell the empire has. It opens the door to a lot of interesting research and questions for the wizards of the Empire.
 
I'm honestly surprised the Ashqy magicians haven't beat us to it.

Fire's that set other fires seems like such an obvious research and/or development path.

Their already halfway there with their Battle Magic becoming easiesr to cast for every Ashqy spell already cast.
 
Wait I'm rereading things and Mathilda and Co actually wiped-out wiped-out a bunch of Skaven clans? I honestly thought it meant wiping out their presence/outposts under K8P as opposed to completely eliminating them as a coherent polticial group. Since wow that's a fucking massive power vacuum.
 
A_Somebody said:
Wait I'm rereading things and Mathilda and Co actually wiped-out wiped-out a bunch of Skaven clans? I honestly thought it meant wiping out their presence/outposts under K8P as opposed to completely eliminating them as a coherent polticial group. Since wow that's a fucking massive power vacuum.
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Your first guess was correct. They wiped out the outposts of those major clans. The only clan that might be completely wiped out is Clan Mors. We don't know for sure though since, like all skaven, the likely hood of them having bolt holes and fall back bases is high.
 
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Wait I'm rereading things and Mathilda and Co actually wiped-out wiped-out a bunch of Skaven clans? I honestly thought it meant wiping out their presence/outposts under K8P as opposed to completely eliminating them as a coherent polticial group. Since wow that's a fucking massive power vacuum.
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We might, might have wiped out Mors, and if we did it's because the rest of the Skaven Empire have been actively trying to kill them all.

I don't think there was even a chance of us wiping out any other whole clans, I'm pretty sure every other Skaven clan in K8P had territory and major holdings outside of K8P.
 
Ah thaks for the clarification. So "just" ridiculously impressive as opposed to astronomically revolutionary changes to the setting resulting in a power vacuum bigger than a black hole.
 
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