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Is that how it works for elves? Genuinely curious, don't know much about warhammer lore beyond this quest.

Even if it is... was every descendant of Aenarion that legendary a mage?
So, Aenarion the Defender drew the Widowmaker, the Sword of Khaine, to fight Chaos after his first wife was killed. This lead to Khaine basically putting a bloodline curse on his... bloodline, where they would be exceptional individuals but have some sort of overarching flaw or be destined to meet a terrible end. Teclis is the greatest living mortal wizard, but he's also heavily reliant on potions just to live because his body is that frail. Tyrion is one of the greatest warriors in history, but always has the possibility lingering over him that he'll turn into a bloodthristy psycho. Well, an uncontrollable one anyway.
 
So, Aenarion the Defender drew the Widowmaker, the Sword of Khaine, to fight Chaos after his first wife was killed. This lead to Khaine basically putting a bloodline curse on his... bloodline, where they would be exceptional individuals but have some sort of overarching flaw or be destined to meet a terrible end. Teclis is the greatest living mortal wizard, but he's also heavily reliant on potions just to live because his body is that frail. Tyrion is one of the greatest warriors in history, but always has the possibility lingering over him that he'll turn into a bloodthristy psycho. Well, an uncontrollable one anyway.

The curse could affect his luck with gambling the magic daredevilness by absorbing some of the failures just as well as it could affect his magical power.

Telcis is one of the most talented mages in the entire setting, on par with Nagash and Malzamundi. He's also really young for an elf. Give him 1000 years, and he'll have the experience to go head to head with them.

Yeah, my point was that magical strength comes much faster with gambling, assuming you win, moreso when gambling in harsh conditions, because it allows ya to really train , so... that is a good aside, but I do not see the relevance?

Also, since Nagash was brought up... he advanced very fast while being on active duty, much lesso since he started doing nothing.
 
Eh, that's just as easily put down to plateauing once you're at a certain power. Can't get much higher than "undead overlord nearly conquering the world".

It could, but thats just the rub: it could be one, it could be the other, its why I am using multiple data points. A lot of stuff can have 2 or 3 good explanations, but when what every really good wizard that seems to get better much much faster than average for their species and tradition has in common with others like that is the fact that they, for one reason or another, get to actually practice and survive said practice, well, it paints a picture.
 
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It could, but thats just the rub: it could be one, it could be the other, its why I am using multiple data points. A lot of stuff can have 2 or 3 good explanations, but when every really good wizard that seems to get better much much faster than average has in common with others the fact that they, for one reason or another, get to actually practice, well, it paints a picture.
I would point out that mathy is a data point.

The higher the next level a skill is, the more AP(time) it takes.

And her learning and piety doesn't move much these days.
 
I would point out that mathy is a data point.

The higher the next level a skill is, the more AP(time) it takes.

And her learning and piety doesn't move much these days.

Mathy is indeed a data point. The primary one.

Ya see, the fact that learning doesn't move much the longer you practice it is EXACTLY my point. Going supermage with magic is done much faster with practice, rather than learning, because of said diminishing returns.

And do ya know what practice and gambling her life has given her?

Most of her magic points and all of her magic traits (ya know, the OP stuff) except for the staff one (which she couldn't have made that well without her other traits anyway, even with the boxcar).
 
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Nagash is the kind of character that only gets stronger through copious sacrifices and rituals. He's peaked in power except for some sort of major story event.
 
Going supermage with magic is done with practice, not learning.

For humans generally yes, this was actually talked about by Boney, with the big advantage humans have being that they can do things like pick up masteries by casting a spell. Whereas elves can't, with the way they learn magic being to perfectly nail down the theory first, never dealing with risking miscasts the first time they cast a spell in order to learn it or unexpected mutations of a spell in the field.
 
Got a random question, what + modifiers do you think a Grail Knight would have in a fight?
 
Question, enchanted items that cast spells ... does that actually count as a spell being cast, or is it just the effect activating.

Basically, what I'm asking is, if there's, say, a ring that casts the spell Magic Lock, and you wanted to stop the spell from being cast when the item is activated, would that have to be dispel, or could you counterspell it like you can a wizard casting a spell?
 
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