Aranfan
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Maybe, IIRC she's too fond of guns.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Maybe, IIRC she's too fond of guns.
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Would she? She'd probably go back trying to push one of her older plots.
Heidi: "This means you can totally take Dragomas, right?"
Mathilde: "No."
I think it was brought up before, but The Protector would be far more powerful in Bretonnia then anywhere else.
not magically or anything like that.
but because of how important the narrative/romanticism of heroic actions is to them as a people and culture.
edit: actually what would the archetype of a Mathy in Bretonnia Legand/history?
... A trickster/anti-mentor?: a sort of foil to the Damsels were they teach a knight the ways of chivalry, the Mathy will show the knight the complexities of the lesson by recontextualizing it.
'A senior Knight and a junior Knight were travelling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the two men were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very, very, short and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.
The two Knights glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman until their Errenty was completed.
Then, without a word, the older Knight picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.
The younger Knight couldn't believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.
Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger Knight could contain himself any longer, and blurted out "As per our vows to the Lady and the Grail, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?"
The older Knight looked at him and replied, "Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?"
The Younger knight was shocked, then ashamed, then finally understood and nodded at the older knight in understanding.
In the shadows, The Mathy nodded as well at the younger understanding of the lesson, and disappeared.'
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We just need to create a powerful enough spell.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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If we manage to hit him with our sword his dragon buff should disappear, but that really isn't in keeping with the spirt of a wizards duel. Has there ever been a Gray Wizard leader of the colleges? Their spell list really doesn't lend itself to one on one duels with someone that is informed the duel is coming. And considering how lacking it is in attack spells I am surprised that more gray wizards don't learn to use a sword.
Aranfan
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I'm sorry, but the Grey Battle Magic list is bonkers good.
Although not as great in a duel as the Ambers, no. I'd put it ahead of the Golds tho.
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I just want to point that with Ulgu's sword related symbolism and the infinitely thin nature of the shadow realm is should be entirely possible to modify penumbral pendulums into a foggy blade tornado.
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Ericwinter
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I could see it happening if they got the Pendulum or Pit working to be less dangerous than they are as is—whether through a trait or staff or maybe even mastery—since those are basically just giant "fuck you" spells, but otherwise probably not. And it's already been discussed how even the sword probably wouldn't turn him back into a human, since the Transformation of Kadon is a permanent instantaneous effect, not ongoing. It would, though, deal a shit-ton of damage, as cannonballs to the face are want to do.
Twice out of 23 terms.
Mopman43
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In Mathilde's specific case, Mindrazor does nothing for her. I think the best spell to take against Dragomas would be MMM?
3 out of 24 would be exactly 1/8 of the time, so that means it's the Grey College's "turn"!
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Not really distinguishable from random chance, then. 23 terms, eight-ish or so years on average?
What's the typical P/Matriarch term of office? I imagine that could also vary by college.
Do we know how long Algard has held his post?
I think the sword would be a no go. its not just beating the other guy, but in a way that shows your top wizerd.
if mathy won using the sword, and the sword was a big part of why she won...
did Mathy win, or Kragg?
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Ericwinter
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...let's not get any crazy ideas now. Mugging gods is one thing, dueling dragons entirely another.3 out of 24 would be exactly 1/8 of the time, so that means it's the Grey College's "turn"!
Mopman43
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Is there any Order that's had a lot, or very few, terms?
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Eh its not our fault if he can't tank the pendulum.
canon: Bright college holds the office the most.
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I mean, did Dragomas win this time, or did the dragon he turns into? Part of Mathilde's claim to being Top Wizard is being a dwarf-friend, so I see no reason she should be denied the fruits of her labor.
There is no typical.
Going on thirty years now.
Bright College with one, Light with five.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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It's bonkers good if you want to kill a large group of people. Less useful for not killing, but still beating a single person in a dueling environment.
Edit: Then again a successful mindhole likely means you win.
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Mopman43
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I don't have any other metric than tabletop, but if we're going by tabletop, he can 100% tank the pendulum. Like, no question. Maximum of 3 wounds, the dragon from Kadon has 8.
I see you're really emphasizing how melodramatic Gelt was with that statement.
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I think the issue with becoming leader of the Colleges through a duel is not just in defeating Dragomas.
It's in the fact that you can be challenged by everybody else, too. So, you think you've found One Weird Trick to defeat a Dragon-transforming Wizard, huh. That's great. And what about Colleges 2 through 8? What about everybody else as good at Battle Magic, or just at duelling specifically, as Dragomas is at his specialization? And which you don't have an OOC (and some IC) insight into? And which can be total surprises?
Not only that, but... I don't want the responsibility and authority of having to contend with leading and managing all the 8 Colleges of Magic. Even if we could do it, I wouldn't want to do this. Even if we were way better at Diplomacy and had lots of experience and time devoted to politicking and conducting diplomacy in the Empire and within the Colleges of Magic specifically. But we don't. We're out on the edges, having spent a bunch of time in a Dwarf Hold.
I'd rather go into researching Waystones and doing stuff with Karak Eight Peaks, Karak Vlag, and Karag Dum. And also hopefully doing that in a way that doesn't enflame Dwarf tensions or put more responsibility and weight of expectation on Belegar; I actively don't want Belegar to think about going for High King-ship. I don't think it would be good for him. And I don't think we could follow up on our deeds of saving Vlag and Dum even if we somehow assume we are wildly and totally successful with both Vlag and Dum despite not knowing what's about to come here and now. No, if anything, I'd rather reconcile Belegar and Thorgrim. Make it possible for them to work together. Because I think they could do good things, if they were on the same page. Thorgrim probably has more acclaim amongst the older or more traditional Dwarfs. While Belegar probably has some "new rising hotshot" popularity amongst radicals or young-ish Dwarfs. But, I just think that means that the two of them should reconcile, and find a way to cooperate. Rather than one King's way replacing the other's.
It's in the fact that you can be challenged by everybody else, too. So, you think you've found One Weird Trick to defeat a Dragon-transforming Wizard, huh. That's great. And what about Colleges 2 through 8? What about everybody else as good at Battle Magic, or just at duelling specifically, as Dragomas is at his specialization? And which you don't have an OOC (and some IC) insight into? And which can be total surprises?
Not only that, but... I don't want the responsibility and authority of having to contend with leading and managing all the 8 Colleges of Magic. Even if we could do it, I wouldn't want to do this. Even if we were way better at Diplomacy and had lots of experience and time devoted to politicking and conducting diplomacy in the Empire and within the Colleges of Magic specifically. But we don't. We're out on the edges, having spent a bunch of time in a Dwarf Hold.
I'd rather go into researching Waystones and doing stuff with Karak Eight Peaks, Karak Vlag, and Karag Dum. And also hopefully doing that in a way that doesn't enflame Dwarf tensions or put more responsibility and weight of expectation on Belegar; I actively don't want Belegar to think about going for High King-ship. I don't think it would be good for him. And I don't think we could follow up on our deeds of saving Vlag and Dum even if we somehow assume we are wildly and totally successful with both Vlag and Dum despite not knowing what's about to come here and now. No, if anything, I'd rather reconcile Belegar and Thorgrim. Make it possible for them to work together. Because I think they could do good things, if they were on the same page. Thorgrim probably has more acclaim amongst the older or more traditional Dwarfs. While Belegar probably has some "new rising hotshot" popularity amongst radicals or young-ish Dwarfs. But, I just think that means that the two of them should reconcile, and find a way to cooperate. Rather than one King's way replacing the other's.
Aranfan
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Gonna take a shot in the dark, and say most of those five terms were Volans?
While Gelt's melodrama should not be understated, he was saying that after the Brights had two more.
Two Volans, three Alric.