I'm trying to but people keep replying to me and demanding proof for even the most basic things like 'wizards are trained primarily in the use of magic'.
*sigh*
I'll come back when this discussion has run it's course.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
I'm trying to but people keep replying to me and demanding proof for even the most basic things like 'wizards are trained primarily in the use of magic'.
*sigh*
I'll come back when this discussion has run it's course.
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And i was asking why does Pans work have to involve magic as the important bit.
You answer to it seems nonsensical in the context, it simply does not follow.
Wether or not it would make it interesting has nothing to do with it, sometimes impressive work is super boring for anyone not involved in it.
I still disagree with you on agriculture being boring without magic though.
Anything is boring if written badly, agriculture or not.
T-pose to establish dominance.
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To those voting for any of the top three romance candidates: if you've only voted for Romance options, and would rather go straight to those scenes rather than have a subvote on how to treat other winning candidates, add in some non-romance choices you'd like to see in the top four too.
Obviously don't go and vote for scenes you don't want to see just to deny someone else what they want, but if there is a social you'd rather see than a secondary romance scene with another candidate, go add that in to your vote.
Obviously don't go and vote for scenes you don't want to see just to deny someone else what they want, but if there is a social you'd rather see than a secondary romance scene with another candidate, go add that in to your vote.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
@Garlak
I am absolutely, totally, 100% behind the idea of a romantic relationship with a Dragon. Not a sexual one, a romantic one.
There's significant precedence for the idea, both in general media (stories about the bond between a human and their animal companion comes up in basically all cultures on earth), and in Warhammer specifically - observe the bonds between elven dragon riders and their companions, or even Elspeth and the Encarmine Dragon she has befriended.
Acting like this is some utterly whacky and nonsensical idea that people must be warned away from due to them misreading the vote is frankly uncharitable towards the intelligence of the thread.
I am absolutely, totally, 100% behind the idea of a romantic relationship with a Dragon. Not a sexual one, a romantic one.
There's significant precedence for the idea, both in general media (stories about the bond between a human and their animal companion comes up in basically all cultures on earth), and in Warhammer specifically - observe the bonds between elven dragon riders and their companions, or even Elspeth and the Encarmine Dragon she has befriended.
Acting like this is some utterly whacky and nonsensical idea that people must be warned away from due to them misreading the vote is frankly uncharitable towards the intelligence of the thread.
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NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Out of curiosity, does Mathilde get any sort of benefit from using her new version of the skywalking spell? Is it functionally identical aside from being slightly easier for her to cast, or is there more than that?
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You don't need tension to make story interesting, slice of life is a perfectly valid style of storytelling, and even with tension, the consequences can simply be personal failure, and having to do lot more work, not everything needs to be life or death.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
If we get Cython to care about our well being, they might sit in front of our only door when they hear we're going on suicide missions and not let us leave. Bam, instant 'damsel locked inside the highest room of the tallest tower of a fortress at the corner of civilization, guarded by a fearsome dragon' story. It even comes with a backstory explanation for why an otherwise normally proportioned building can even fit a dragon inside it.
(The rescuing knight might need to have brought some good ale along, if it's not to be a tragedy.)
I think it's trading 'easy' for 'cheap' very hard, with the idea that a spell that's chain-casting it doesn't care about difficulty but does care about maximum input.
So it's only good for casting a billion times a second.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
If my answer to you is nonsensical it's because you're not reading what I'm writing and not trying to empathise with the point of view i'm putting forth.
You're engaging in a discussion in a watsonian manner which is fine, I'm putting forth an argument for what I would find interesting as a reader.
I am not saying "LOGICALLY IT MUST FOLLOW THAT MAGIC IS USED PRIMARILY"
I am saying, "As a reader Agricultural work is not going to be fun to read about, the interesting part would be the magic involved. I suspect that magic isn't doing the primary load carrying here any way and what magic is being used is the standard spell list"
Now BoneyM has invalidated part of my premise but I really don't see how you couldn't understand what I was writing unless you went out of the way to ignore large facets of it to give it the most uncharitable read possible when I'm talking about what would desire to read.
There's like three levels of discussion happening here and you're only acknowledging that the first exists.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
The easiest way to ride that particular dragon? Yes.
However, if all we want is for Mathilde to ride a dragon, I honestly suspect becoming a vampire and wandering into the dragon graveyard to raise one might be easier. Dragons are the species who make Elves seem "a wee bit humble" by comparison, after all.
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Think about it some more: if you dislike Johann or Panoramia, no matter which one wins, the consolation prize is just a manling you don't care about.
Meanwhile, even if you aren't super hard into being awesome dragon romance, the consolation prize is an Emperor Dragon.
Even if your preferred option loses, it's still a big win!
Meanwhile, even if you aren't super hard into
Even if your preferred option loses, it's still a big win!
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I asked a simple, one levelled question, you chose to answer a question that was not asked.
I did understand it after you clarified, but i am still puzled on why answer a question that was not asked.
Again, the answer is nonsensical in the context i was asking it, it makes sense once you add bits to clarify that you are naswering a differnet question altogether.
I mean, you could have just gone "As a reader Agricultural work is not going to be fun to read about, the interesting part would be the magic involved. I suspect that magic isn't doing the primary load carrying here any way and what magic is being used is the standard spell list" in the first place.
Now, i disagree with you.
I don't think agriculture is necessarily boring, and i'm not sure that magic used is necessarily limited to spells.
Hell, maybe Pan is the worlds foremost expert on calculating carbon content on soil, and is leveraging that somehow.
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Also, even if Pans work relies on common spells being used, that does not mean any wizard who knows those spells can replace her, just because you have the tools does not mena you know how to use them right, in the right place, at the right time.
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I'd expect that even though Mathilde's approach is more logic-based, it's still dependent on her own subjective logic and idiosyncratically-derived starting axioms. "Ulgu is a cloud, therefore X" isn't going to be useful to a mage who sees Ulgu primarily in terms of light/shadow.
Religious secrets being both plentiful and deadly serious is baked into the setting. The Jade College are canonically a rebranding of a fertility cult older than the Empire.
Please link these posts so I can respond to them and tell them not to do that.
Where to draw the line between the two is an extremely difficult question.
It would require Mathilde to become a full-time teacher at the Grey College to imprint her personal understanding on the upcoming generation.
It's more mentally taxing to cast and requires very slightly less magical energy.
"Hey, Asarnil, would you and Deathfang mind giving me a lift."
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The new Skywalk is probably optimal in the computer sense as it requires the fewest and simplest operations.
It's also complex in the computer sense as that's a tremendously complex code, but it's technically easier on what's going to run it than an easy to program and understand but more costly solution.
It's also complex in the computer sense as that's a tremendously complex code, but it's technically easier on what's going to run it than an easy to program and understand but more costly solution.
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Have a vote tally!
Belegar looks to be the clear winner, and an automatic lock-in with a commanding lead of 23 votes.
Behind him, Panoramia, Eike, the Ice Dragon are provisionally in, followed closely by Barak Varr and Kasmir. Johann is still in striking distance of catching up, but without a last minute rally it's looking surprisingly unlikely.
Sadly, it seems that Hluodwica is going to have to wait another turn.
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Deathfang: NO
Dragons do not let anyone but their rider on them, ever.
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This is also true of Panoramia and Johann. Not sure why you're singling out Cython here.
[X] The Amber College, to check in on the salamanders.
[X] Follow up on your donation of the Skaven organ-vat, and see what has been made of it.
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[X] Barak Varr, to watch the progress of the canal.
[X] Follow up on your donation of the Skaven organ-vat, and see what has been made of it.
[X] Pay a visit to your fief, to see if anything has changed. It probably hasn't.
[X] Barak Varr, to watch the progress of the canal.
tapkomet
Senātus Populusque Rōmānus
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No-no-no, that's the Uncool way of asking.
Here's the proper way of asking:
"Fly me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!"
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Before the romance vote the dragon was barred from social turns.