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Like if the puppy picked up a marker in its mouth and started drawing differential equations on the whiteboard.
It should perhaps be noted that while the high elves are very powerful and knowledgable, their arrogance far outstrips their ability. They are not nearly as good as they think they are.

Just because they look down on Mathilde doesn't mean they are actually smarter than her. Note that the Asur have been fighting greenskins for something like ten thousand years and never worked out the trick to screwing with a Waaagh field.

It might be an idea to start brainstorming what Mathilde would do if she had a shitload of Runesmith Favour to burn.
Runesmith specifically? Difficult. We already have top quality runic equipment.

We could commission runic items for other people. Upgrade the other seven reclamation blades to Rune Fang equivalents. Supply a bunch of anti-Dhar belts to the Colleges. Something like that.

Or we could try to push them into progressing. Have them investigate what runes can be usefully put on a gyrocopter or steam tank. Getting one of the best Runelords to go all in on runes for engineering would be a powerful precedent.
 
I still lowkey have as a goal "get actually adopted and legally become a dwarf" as step 1 of longterm goal "become Ancestor God of Rangers."
Or we could try to push them into progressing. Have them investigate what runes can be usefully put on a gyrocopter or steam tank. Getting one of the best Runelords to go all in on runes for engineering would be a powerful precedent.
Do like this idea too.
 
At this point, that's probably already been taken care of.
There's a big difference between "I got Dwarven engineers and whatever normal Runepriests could be spared" and "I got Thorek or Kragg to devote personal attention to this project". Runelords can set up runes that nobody else can replicate : their help will surely be significant!
 
Nah, we've got immunity to the escalating insanity, remember? It's the immediate hostility to everyone around you bit that scares people.
You can give her the Mountain Belt item to remove the effects of 'Escalating Insanity', true, but then you can't give your Mathilde the horrifically broken Branulhune. One item only per 'mon, after all. And I didn't bring up Necro-Mathilde's other possible ability ('Hated Necromancer') because frankly that's even worse, to the point that even most Necro-Mathilde fans don't think it's worth it.
 
It should perhaps be noted that while the high elves are very powerful and knowledgable, their arrogance far outstrips their ability. They are not nearly as good as they think they are.

Just because they look down on Mathilde doesn't mean they are actually smarter than her. Note that the Asur have been fighting greenskins for something like ten thousand years and never worked out the trick to screwing with a Waaagh field.

It's worth noting that the reasons he figured it out is because she was at a confluence of an age old Tzeench plot and saw the mind of Mork, it was not a matter of personal genius, but boldness and luck.
 
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Again, 'have all created AV runes named after Mathilde*'

really rub it in to the priests that there is no 'rune of Sigmar', but there is a 'rune of Mathilde'.
 
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A collection of thoughts on raising your Mathilde
What's the next evolution in the Mathilde line?
Lord Mathilde. With the potential for a temporary mega evolution into Matriarch Mathilde.
You can also evolve her into Necro-Mathilde by having the rest of the team faint while she holds the Liber Mortis, but considering she comes with the 'Escalating Insanity' ability almost everybody agrees the power boost isn't worth it.
Nah, we've got immunity to the escalating insanity, remember? It's the immediate hostility to everyone around you bit that scares people.
You can give her the Mountain Belt item to remove the effects of 'Escalating Insanity', true, but then you can't give your Mathilde the horrifically broken Branulhune. One item only per 'mon, after all. And I didn't bring up Necro-Mathilde's other possible ability ('Hated Necromancer') because frankly that's even worse, to the point that even most Necro-Mathilde fans don't think it's worth it.
You can run Necro-Mathilde as a viable solo built, but that's more of a speedrun than a competetive strat.
 
I am thinking we learn the runic language. It is close to the old one language and puts her one step closer to learning the true magic language.
 
So the more I think about it, the more I come around to the idea of learning arcane Dwarven. It's probably the best way to deal with Bok at the moment, since even the Seviroscope is almost pure speculation and would be mostly useless outside this one thing anyways. Plus, if we can figure out the five Rune thing he's got going on, not to mention everything else, we could probably get an even bigger favor surge than this one. Imagine, the most influential person in Runelore for the last coupled thousand or so years... and they're a human wizard who can't even use Dwarven magic. That would be another funny way to poke fun at the elves with.
 
It's worth noting that the reasons he figgured it out is because she was at a confluence of an age old Tzeench plot and saw the mind of Mork, it was not a matter of personal genus, but boldness and luck.
Nope.
Again, they have been at this for ten thousand years. And for most of that they had a larger population than the Empire has now. And a vastly higher proportion of their population can see and use magic. And they have closer and more widespread interaction with gods than any humans.

Mathilde was indeed at the right place and time with the right education to make the intuitive leap.
Hundreds of elf mages with supposedly better educations and better senses (than she had at the time) have been in the right times and places but failed to make the leap.

It isn't a matter of genius. It is a matter of being able to think past your own overblown ego.
 
Runesmith specifically? Difficult. We already have top quality runic equipment.

We could commission runic items for other people. Upgrade the other seven reclamation blades to Rune Fang equivalents. Supply a bunch of anti-Dhar belts to the Colleges. Something like that.

Or we could try to push them into progressing. Have them investigate what runes can be usefully put on a gyrocopter or steam tank. Getting one of the best Runelords to go all in on runes for engineering would be a powerful precedent.

The problem here is that we can't realy comission runework for other people, it has come up and been veted before. If we want to push the boudaries of engineering runework it would have to be on something beloging to us, I will say Project Helicarrier is geting more interesting every minute.

Also technicaly our belt isn't actualy top quality, but we can't realy upgrade whitout another lucky gromril so is kind moot.

Mathilde was indeed at the right place and time with the right education to make the intuitive leap.
Wasn't it actualy a very unintuitive leap that we only managed due to the cheatsheet she got from Gork ? There is a reason that paper gained the alien insign, we shared headspace with the Ork god for a moment there.
 
Another thought, but isn't arcane Dwarven the language of the ancestor gods? That might have some clues to Theurgy, if nothing else. Also I want to see how many of the languages directly adjacent to the Old One tongue we can learn before the quest is through, and this could be a good first step. Then eventually we'll learn Anoqueyan once we manage to pick up our marker—:D—maybe get ahold of Saurian if the Slaan show an interest in our stuff or we get really lucky in Naggarythe, and we might go digging around in Nehekara at some point. Not exactly sure what Albionese is though, and we probably want to steer clear of Deamonic, but otherwise it should be fun. I really like the idea of Mathilde as a mistress of arcane languages, even if we didn't go for the linguist trait.
 
It should perhaps be noted that while the high elves are very powerful and knowledgable, their arrogance far outstrips their ability. They are not nearly as good as they think they are.

Just because they look down on Mathilde doesn't mean they are actually smarter than her. Note that the Asur have been fighting greenskins for something like ten thousand years and never worked out the trick to screwing with a Waaagh field.
The problem is precisely that the arrogance means that Mathilde needs to achieve much much more for them to acknowledge the same...and achieve in a field where looking away isn't optional.

The Protector coin is going to be big mileage when the time comes I'm sure. The hard part is making them not look away
 
How about we ask for their assistance in establishing a college of magic in K8P? Like, not just a college, but like how the Nuln college is dedicated to elementalists.

I'm talking a a college of exotic research and collaboration between the orders of magic and the runesmiths of the Karaz Ankor, and maybe the Eonir too if they're grudgeless and not too arrogant with the Waystones project.

Not asking them to teach manlings their deepest secrets, but to work alongside side mages to rediscover and advance their joint understanding.

Part of this would be actually founding a runic clan in K8P, which Kragg and Thorek could probably take care of if they agree to it. We could even invite elementalists to help Kragg with the Bok, as an example.

K8P is a good place for it beyond just the Waystones, it's also in relatively close proximity to Karak Azul (Thorek), Everpeak (Kragg), and Barak Varr (resources and trade), so it's pretty central.

...Less central to the empire but if mages don't want to come all the way down here for such an endeavor, that's their problem.
 
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Hey. Hey random thought. How would we outfit the dragon if we could manage to figure out Five rune sequences off Bok? Just, you know, as a plan for the future. An awesome plan for the future.
 
Nope.
Again, they have been at this for ten thousand years. And for most of that they had a larger population than the Empire has now. And a vastly higher proportion of their population can see and use magic. And they have closer and more widespread interaction with gods than any humans.

Mathilde was indeed at the right place and time with the right education to make the intuitive leap.
Hundreds of elf mages with supposedly better educations and better senses (than she had at the time) have been in the right times and places but failed to make the leap.

It isn't a matter of genius. It is a matter of being able to think past your own overblown ego.

It's not like the Asur have been spending those six thousand years desperately looking for a Waagh-bane trait. They don't usually have much trouble with orcs even in this fallen age, much less in the Golden Age. Greenskins were pests back then, the beings dwarfs hunted for sport.
 
Hey. Hey random thought. How would we outfit the dragon if we could manage to figure out Five rune sequences off Bok? Just, you know, as a plan for the future. An awesome plan for the future.
Got to figure out runes on cloth first, plus the actual runic combinations, but I figure a Runic Nightcap of Nightmare Warding, a Runic Pillow of Good Sleep, and a Runic Blanket of Protection against Awakening are in order. Possibly with a Runic Nightlight of Fuck Off Ghosts and a Runic Teddy Bear of Daemonslaying.
 
Got to figure out runes on cloth first, plus the actual runic combinations, but I figure a Runic Nightcap of Nightmare Warding, a Runic Pillow of Good Sleep, and a Runic Blanket of Protection against Awakening are in order. Possibly with a Runic Nightlight of Fuck Off Ghosts and a Runic Teddy Bear of Daemonslaying.
I... I meant our transformed dragon from the altar, but that's funny enough you get a like.
 
In the defense of the Elves, I'm not sure they could even conceive of the idea that The WAAAGH wasn't traditional magic. For them to make the same logical leap that we did must be like attempting to perceive infrared by pure will.
 
I... I meant our transformed dragon from the altar, but that's funny enough you get a like.
Here's the problem with the altar: there are now potentially multiple dragons in Eight Peaks. I propose a naming scheme: the Ice Dragon is henceforth to be referred to in shorthand as just Dragon, while any transformed dragons are to be referred to as Dragon (temp). Alternatively, some sort of portmanteau may be employed, in which case the human dragon becomes humgon.
 
Here's the problem with the altar: there are now potentially multiple dragons in Eight Peaks. I propose a naming scheme: the Ice Dragon is henceforth to be referred to in shorthand as just Dragon, while any transformed dragons are to be referred to as Dragon (temp). Alternatively, some sort of portmanteau may be employed, in which case the human dragon becomes humgon.
Or we could call it the Altar Dragon, compared to Ice Dragon? Just in case our shenanigans manage to attract even more dragons, of course.
 
If we're going with the Library plan for our Belegar boon getting some institutional buy in to the concept from the runepriests might be useful. Not in the sense of having them make runes for it but in the sense of having them record some knowledge and letting the library do the work of deciding who's worthy instead of doing it themselves. One of long term goals of the library after all is to fight knowledge loss by giving dwarfs who can't find a worthy successor somewhere else to pass on their knowledge to.

That might easily surpass the value of the favor we're getting though.

Further emphasizing this. Dwarfs don't issue big Grudges on a whim. They're not going to lay a Grudge against the Grey College because one Grey Wizard did a bad thing--hell, if the dwarfs brought it to the attention of the Grey College, they'd probably thank them for the information and let them know that they would hunt that wizard down and bring him/her to justice.

That's the major difference between how relations between the Empire and the Karaz Ankor are compared to Ulthuan and the Karaz Ankor: while the Empire has plenty of fuckups and is generally not always reliable, the Empire has never outright turned against the Karaz Ankor or even implicitly endorsed anyone who did. The Karaz Ankor has never had an Empire army attacking a Karak, nor had to deal with a diplomatic envoy egregiously insulted and harmed on the orders of the fucking Emperor. So while the Empire has never been reliable about holding up its end of the alliance, it's never betrayed it, either.
How much time do you suppose the Grey college spent ensuring that Dieter IV was never in the same room as a dwarf?
 
Here's the problem with the altar: there are now potentially multiple dragons in Eight Peaks. I propose a naming scheme: the Ice Dragon is henceforth to be referred to in shorthand as just Dragon, while any transformed dragons are to be referred to as Dragon (temp). Alternatively, some sort of portmanteau may be employed, in which case the human dragon becomes humgon.
Drake for human-turned-dragon?
 
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