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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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I figure it's either a thing because it's somehow easier for them to create anti-magic against "uncombined" winds or because they're high and dark magic users and they don't want talismans effective against them floating around.
The second has obvious downsides in terms of it being actually useful, since Chaos cultists are still gonna be able to bypass the protections, but if you have to choose between your minions being protected against Chaos cultists and you being able to put down rebellions easily, there's some obvious incentive to be callous.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Yeah. By simply knowing that Skaven (and Cathay) have a material that reject single-wind magics we now know not to lean on it too heavily when they're around.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
I mean, I doubt it's entirely unrelated, but frankly in-setting the knowledge of magic that the Colleges have is exceedingly limited - I wouldn't be surprised if the Cathayan paradigm touches on some entirely true principles that Teclis simply left out of the curriculum because he made the executive decision to focus on mono-wind casting instead of Qhaysh and Dhar.
And indeed given that Qhaysh and Dhar are both about combining multiple winds, albeit "harmoniously" and "chaotically", I'd be surprised if there weren't certain similarities there on some level.
I think Vitae is far too useful as a spell-casting and rune aid to do the equivalent of stuffing it down the barrel of a gun and firing it, maybe if we figure out how to get more of it.
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- being near locations is my passion.
Could not have known beforehand. Happens. Shrugs
I meant out of the list of people that was suggested to us, sorry. Because someone who has that can't be healed or blessed or... (unless dark magic is involved somehow) so, not useful to those who we would like to be protected.
- Location
- Brazil
[X] Send it to the Colleges as a potentially useful trinket
[X] Keep it in case it comes in useful later
[X] Keep it in case it comes in useful later
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Like we ever do. In general we use magic for buffs not attack. Less chance of miscast that way.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, that's what I figure it is. "It's a protective talisman against possible rebellions from your subordinate casters." A weak Dark Magic caster you can kick the shit out of the usual way, but if your upper class are using High and Dark Magic respectively thanks to their bullshit Dragon Blood letting them pull shit humans aren't usually supposed to be able to pull, then you don't want to block out your own capacity to use magic.
So yeah, that seems to feel about right. Cathay is more interested in talismans to help suppress rebellions than they are to actually deal with their peers, because they've got no significant rival powers between "Chaos is generally disinterested in applying regular pressure outside of the Old World" and their own bullshit dragon blood letting them dodge the usual consequences of using Dark Magic while allowing them to use High Magic.
So yeah, that seems to feel about right. Cathay is more interested in talismans to help suppress rebellions than they are to actually deal with their peers, because they've got no significant rival powers between "Chaos is generally disinterested in applying regular pressure outside of the Old World" and their own bullshit dragon blood letting them dodge the usual consequences of using Dark Magic while allowing them to use High Magic.
It would be great if we expected a fight against Bretonnia or Kislev. Hmm, @BoneyM, does it protect against Waagh magic? From the lectures, that's a combination of divine and arcane, so it might fall under the stuff this thing protects from.
There's also another valid use: Fucking With Elves. Especially if we can give it to Wolf without shutting down the mind link.
There's also another valid use: Fucking With Elves. Especially if we can give it to Wolf without shutting down the mind link.
As far as we know it's just Cathay and the Skaven had it by random chance and probably thievery. The odds of fighting Cathayans in the future are remote.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, only real downside to the gem is that you can't give it to a mono-wind or divine caster unless you're willing to take their powers away for the duration.
And unfortunately, the ones it'd work best on are also our own natural allies, so it's not really valuable to keep for ourselves or hand to one of our own allies.
Pretty much just curiosity level--it'd be useful for the right person in the right place, but for our own purposes it's a mediocre treasure.
And unfortunately, the ones it'd work best on are also our own natural allies, so it's not really valuable to keep for ourselves or hand to one of our own allies.
Pretty much just curiosity level--it'd be useful for the right person in the right place, but for our own purposes it's a mediocre treasure.
From what Mathilde knows of it, it should.
Unfortunately not.
- Location
- Leeds
[Q] Gift it to someone as a protective talisman
-[Q] Someone you don't like. Does Roswita still have that useless priest?
-[Q] Someone you don't like. Does Roswita still have that useless priest?
- Location
- France
[x] Send it to the Colleges as a potentially useful trinket
A talisman that doesn't work against dark magic? Let's give it to the college, they might be useful for some experiment or enchantment. Giving it to Rosala is almost useless because it's ineffective against dhar and necromancy, the true dangers for her.
A talisman that doesn't work against dark magic? Let's give it to the college, they might be useful for some experiment or enchantment. Giving it to Rosala is almost useless because it's ineffective against dhar and necromancy, the true dangers for her.
- Location
- Canada
[X] Keep it in case it comes in useful later
This seems like the sort of thing a future friendly Elf might find to be a useful gift. No effect on High (or Dark) Magic, yet repellent to individual Winds.
Maybe they could use it as a focus or something, for training in High Magic. Lets the spell through if you get it right, disrupts it if the Wind balance is off and you're going to screw it up. If you're creating Dhar you're already hosed, do better next time if you haven't already melted your head.
This seems like the sort of thing a future friendly Elf might find to be a useful gift. No effect on High (or Dark) Magic, yet repellent to individual Winds.
Maybe they could use it as a focus or something, for training in High Magic. Lets the spell through if you get it right, disrupts it if the Wind balance is off and you're going to screw it up. If you're creating Dhar you're already hosed, do better next time if you haven't already melted your head.
