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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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It's honestly really tempting to just always meme vote for the (race) tactics traits going forward, haha. Gotta have that eventual cumulative +100 to our tactics roll as we lead a menagerie army of every race on Malus into the warp to go kick the Horned Rat's ass
 
BoneyM said:
Her grudge is against Sigmar, not Sigmarites.
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But the trait explicitly says she is to act against worship of Sigmar in any institution she is in charge of.
I'm going to step out of the thread for a bit because it is getting heated, and i am most definitly not innocent of it.
But the trait, as written, is very much punishing not persecuting a specific religion and followers thereof.
 
Oshha said:
I personally viewed that as retroactive justification for her grudge. She decided to disdain Sigmar for failing to save Van Hal and then used her previous grievances to justify it. Mainly because I didn't see her building up to a trait like that and it feel like she only got it because of Van Hal's death.
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She gained a healthy disdain to Sigmar supercisim via Kasmir, and was helped by the attitude of one of the marshal candidates that didn't get chosen. During the Stirland arc the church of Sigmar failed to cover itself in glory, which directly led to Abelhelm crisis of faith.

Even when Abelhelm's faith first started to waver people talked about converting him to a more worthy god. It was always in the background, it just got turbocharged when Abelhelm died.
 
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Alectai said:
Collegiate
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I'm thinking of Polyglot actually. That is just as good if not better than collegiate and should stack with Xeno-Affinity. The ability to expand our library to multiple new languages should give us a lot of bonuses.

Also, as a court wizard Collegiate is probably still going to be on the table the next time we'll be picking a trait.
 
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Trying to fix this trait. I think I got rid of the reality warping here. @BoneyM: is this better:

Let's You and Him Fight: Why face two enemies when they can face each other? +Intrigue, Bonus to actions intended to set enemies against each other.
 
Quest said:
I'm thinking of Polyglot actually. That is just as good if not better than collegiate and should stack with Xeno-Diplomacy.
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Both Polyglot and Collegiate essentially are AP saving traits, but acting in different areas, I think Collegiate is technically more versatile though, as it will impact our plans to teach people as it gives a bonus there and possibly frees up an AP.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
Both Polyglot and Collegiate essentially are AP saving traits, but acting in different areas, I think Collegiate is technically more versatile though, as it will impact our plans to teach people as it gives a bonus there and possibly frees up an AP.
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I'm leaning more towards Polyglot because of the potential library bonuses, which can affect a huge number of projects.
 
065tdsa said:
It costs a trait to avoid having a problem with several million people. And it's not like the selection of personal traits isn't mostly crap at the moment.
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Only if they put us in charge of those million people. It has no bearing on how we deal with any facet of the empire we don't have direct and total jurisdiction over.
 
Quest said:
I'm thinking of Polyglot actually. That is just as good if not better than collegiate and should stack with Xeno-Diplomacy.
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Collegiate is what we need for a lot of our long range ambitions, because it seems to have dropped the action economy in exchange for bonuses in teaching and communicating in the Colleges.

And we make very regular use of our College connections.

Yeah, Polyglot saves us time, but Collegiate is what we need for a lot of our late game projects.
 
Lupercal said:
Really? huh. I always liked Ulric(and his cult) more then Sigmar (and his cult). My favoute god of the pantheon is probably Shallya or Verena though.
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The Cult of Ulric's obsession with being ur-barbarians in a society that has moved past that has likely cost who knows how many lives and wars. The cult of Sigmar is at least open to change and reform as the Empire changes, ulrican conservatism is a net negative to everyone. Granted the focus on self-reliance is not all bad but the stronger imperial organizations become the more it's a hindrance than a help. The empire needs checks and balances and that is what the various Al Ulrics have tried to do but it's hard when the tenets of your god tell you the right and proper thing to do is to go live in the woods with wolves.
 
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Collegiate is a must as we have too many wizards working for us, and are likely to get even more as our fame spreads and we get Magister Lord.

And Assassin, we did not take it last time and (almost) came to really regret it, we keep assassinating high value targets and despite our progress we are not yet at the point where we can call it safe.
 
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uju32 said:
We have avoided Witch Hunters and chaplains since Stirland.
We have only interacted with Ulrican Knightly Orders.
Of the Imperial Family, we have only seriously interacted with Empress Heidi/Gabrielle, who is a secret Ranaldian.

We are already part owner of the EIC, a megacorp whose tentacles already reach through one province and is extending into more.
And whose dealings with the Dawi are increasing.
The same Dawi who hold Sigmar in a position of some respect.
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This issue has been settled by Word of BoneyM.

We have no issues with individual believers.

BoneyM said:
It's about institutional Sigmar worship taking hold in organizations she controls, not individual worshippers.
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BoneyM said:
Her grudge is against Sigmar, not Sigmarites.
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Alratan said:
I'm leaning more towards Polyglot because of the potential library bonuses, which can affect a huge number of projects.
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yea that's one the reasons it's a hard choice. Library bonuses mean we're going to benefit in the short to medium turn an awful lot from Polyglot. On the other hand Collegiate effects mid to late term projects like Ulgu tongs and Theurgy a lot.

That said, early opportunities doing more for you means success snow balls.. So being able to build large boosts from lots of lore from around the world is a very strong option. Hnnng.
 
Abhorsen said:
Trying to fix this trait. I think I got rid of the reality warping here. @BoneyM: is this better:

Let's You and Him Fight: Why face two enemies when they can face each other? +Intrigue, Bonus to actions intended to set enemies against each other.
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It doesn't really make sense that Mathilde's intent when taking an action changes whether or not she will get a bonus from it. Think in terms of what actions she's good at doing, not what results those actions might result in.
 
Well then. Not a glorious battle, but also helped prevent nastiness in the Under-Caldera. Exactly as a Grey Wizard should.
ichypa said:
Also, again, I feel that it must be remembered that this was all set in motion by Plan Slow And Steady.
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"Start slow, like an avalanche."
Jyn Ryvia said:
I don't actually like this one. the amateur theologian I me doesn't like trying to worship a some other groups personal god.

I feel anyone who can appreciate the nature of Ancestor worship wouldn't try to worship them. they are the gods of dwarves, and were never meant to be worship by others, that's why they are Ancestors, its a personal, in clan and in people thing.

I feel like something along the lines of being able to appreciate other gods and respect them in their domains without slighting Ranald is better.
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It seems to me like this would be more of an outgrowth of her relationship with Ranald - she respects them for what they do, and what they can do, and will work with them to achieve mutual goals when possible... Mathilde doesn't really seem the type for conventional worship, but rather service-through-action.

Also, quick note: Kazrik addressed the collected wizards as "Dawri". Sure, he's fascinated with humans, but that seems rather significant to me.
 
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