That is fair, sorry for asking that one then.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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There was also a period where their survival was contingent on how good they were at killing the witch hunters after them. Spoiler: Very Good.
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And their usefulness just went up a notch with the recent best seller "Waagh and Peace." Found in every bookstore that caters to wizards!
Please don't post scans in the thread.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Ah now we're leaving my area knowledge so tell me what does Nehekkara say about the gods that they worshipped fanatically and their first king sacrificed his children to?
I know they have a lot to say about the soul, but I don't recall what their view on their gods being nought, but big blobs of belief would be.
Its the same reason I have my doubts about Teclis's answer being the whole story, since if the elves knew that then why would the elves like their gods so much and why would he personally be so chuffed about one of his gods giving him her staff?
Assuming they can actually get something out of it.
We got a crit ("Compelling") on writing the paper, so I'm assuming they can.
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Well given the roll
They should be able to get something out of it as the delivery was compelling and it was thorough.
Hopefully even if Mors disintegrates our great roll and the Dragons ok one degrade some of the advantage of Eshins very good roll.
Why not? The way the gods come about don't necessarily detract from admiring qualities you think they have.
Why not? The way the gods come about don't necessarily detract from admiring qualities you think they have.
Night
Widow Null
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I mean, unless he wants to Skitterleap out of the fight himself. He doesn't want us; he wants Mors.
- The Nehekaran part is why I included Nagash there. I don't think the priest kings knew the whole story, but Nagash definitively did
- The elves like their gods for the same reason Mathilde likes her god, as @BoneyM put it Ranald may be a lump of warp-stuff, but so is Mathilde only she is wrapped in flesh. Going further the elves see gods as incarnations of their own natures, so any elf that is not self-loathing likes the elven gods because they are a part of them and vice versa.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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Thats a good point- not to mention, the guy is a skaven magic user, and Skaven magic users are notorious for not being the best at focusing on the important parts of things.
Or maybe that's just Thanquol.
Please remove the scans you posted in the thread.
Well, there's definitely worry that... If that nat 1 left Mors totally screwed? Such as by taking out their general?
We might just be dealing with a situation where Mors is finished, but Eshin is still alive.
Which would be a sucky situation to have. Eshin is the one that can best make their escape out of Karak Eight Peaks. And can murder a few leaders too. Or stick around with stealth.
Mors, is the one we were totally confident we could fully beat with just conventional force.
Eshin is the one we've always been worrying about and having nightmare scenarios about.
So if that natural 1 results in Eshin feeling like it's "Job done" and starting to make a break for it or switching to 'survive in this Karag' mode rather than 'kill the enemy' mode... Well, that'd suck. That means finishing off Eshin is up to us and the Dragon, and not Mors anymore.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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That hopefully means that they get bonuses to it, but might I remind you that 6 out of 7 colleges failed to replicate the Mapp and it was only on the last one that someone found success.
Hopefully doing it well will nudge things in that direction, but I don't expect it.
It certainly doesn't help.
You're avoiding the question, what does the tradition of Nekherara say about the origins of their gods?
You'll forgive me if I don't take what Nagash says is indicative of the wider tradition, although I do expect he could figure it out from base principals, on account of being bloody ludicrous.
I imagine its not uncommon, but I doubt many are at the level of Thanquol.
Just an FYI: speculation on the nature of the Gods using the innermost secrets of like six different factions, most of which haven't even appeared in this Quest yet, is extremely shaky ground and can very, very easily lead you into a whole bunch of assumptions that will blow up in your face if you take them as a given when making decisions for Mathilde.
I vaguely recall some line in the tabletop going something like "The Nehekharans believe magic is the breath of the gods..."
They probably think their gods are pretty smite-happy, if they think their magic is a result of their gods.
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Replicating another colleges magic is likely a much much harder task than getting ideas on how to counter waagh magic better. The paper we wrote was not on how Ulgu can attack waagh magic it was on the fundamental weakness of waagh magic. This would mean that getting something out of it is going to be much much easier than trying to develop a new spell.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I don't see the issue? The Gods being created as platonic ideals of the very things you idolise should point to why. Also most people don't know and will never learn otherwise.
The Nehekarans claim their gods walked amongst them in the early days and taught them all they knew about the divine, but there's a couple of things that could be the reason for that, firstly their record keeping wasn't great. Secondly they may be talking about the period of time during the great cataclysm and thus their gods could have manifested directly in the world which would completely warp their perspective of things especially as prior to that they'd be having trouble just surviving due to chaos issues.
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Damn, I was still vaguely hoping for a yet unrevealed blood knight to be lurking about somewhere ( Dwarf golem not withstanding)
Why did your quote remove my spoilers?
I don't see why it would hurt really, if that's how it works that's how it would've always worked and not something they would have felt was weird. So if they like the cut of the gods jib, all is well.
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I could also see that 1 meaning that Mors just said screw it and bum rushed eshin. After all if your neck deep in Eshin then you sorta fail any hiding game you could have tried.
Fair enough, this is just general discussion on Warhamer metaphysics though at least on my end. I was not advocating anything IC.
Night
Widow Null
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That Nat 1 isn't even necessarily a combat roll. It's "being hunted" which suggests they critfailed their way into an ambush. So that's bad, but Sleek's still got a hundred+ Albino Stormvermin and his own skills, which is a not-inconsiderable obstacle. The Stormvermin might take it on the chin, but in killing them to reach Sleek Eshin loses surprise, and I will absolutely bet on fifty+ Stormvermin and Sleek against three Assassins in an open fight.