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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] The fog of war is a bitch, to all involved.
[X] The Empire is a morass of self-interest, to the point of becoming a millstone around the neck of humanity.
 
racnor said:
What exactly do people see in [] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly? It certainly fits as a concept, but it doesn't really lead anywhere except avoidance of battle.
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I see it as avoid melee entirely if Mathilde have choice, those cannons did wonders to that castle without the significance loss of during taking of the town.
 
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[X] It's not a great hero who carries the day, but a lot of small men working in concert.
[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.
 
... Why are so many picking dhar? Unless you plan to go vampire or full on necromancer then it is a hilariously bad idea seeing as you are still only human.

I mean, there is no shortage of examples of why messing with it is a fundamentally bad idea.
 
[X] Magic used recklessly has catastrophic effects; great care must be taken in it's handling.

[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.

We've seen just how badly things can go magic-wise for people. We've been incredibly lucky(especially with that snake/asp) but eventually that luck can run out. This is a stark reminder for us.

And we saw Van Halen die, with no one else but Mathilde by his side while everyone else seemed to vanish due to the confusion. It's a definite reminder, and quite likely a memory that will never fade, that even the greatest warrior(or otherwise) can and will fall.
 
VoidZero said:
I see it as avoid melee entirely if Mathilde have choice, those cannons did wonders to that castle without the significance loss of during taking of the tow.
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And that's why I find the option so boring. It doesn't go anywhere, it doesn't open up new conflicts like the anti-empire/sigmar stuff, it just discourages us from combat until we find a way to mitigate it.
 
Just a warning, don't expect positive effects from the damage you choose. You won't get sensible caution out of '[*] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly'.
 
What I see on the Dhar option:

At best we become more paranoid and obsessed at getting rid of everything that is tainted of Dhar, the worst thing that could happen we burn a city/village down because of a rumor of a Dhar tainted mage/object/etc.

At worst we could try to harness the power and become insane necromancer.

I might be wrong here though, not that familiar with Warhammer.
 
[X] The fog of war is a bitch, to all involved.

This is for our grey wizard shtick. Im not 100% sold on it, but its the best combo for the malus i vote for.

[X] What use are infantry, if all they can do is die in droves?

We only have about 5k men left. We need to train all them to SpecOps standard. I see some voting for the 'No Heroes' vote, but this makes all our troops as close to heroes as is possible. Also works with us being a spymistress with a seemingly useless land. This might be expensive and/or time consuming, but i hope we can swing it.



TLDR, we train Agents, Spies, and SpecOps since no one else does this other than elves (mostly).
 
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BoneyM said:
...and you've got friends in Stirland, albeit less than when the campaign started.
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[ ] Magic used recklessly has catastrophic effects; great care must be taken in it's handling.
[ ] Magic is unreliable, gods are doubly so: always have a mundane solution.
Torn between these two, considering the miscasts all around.

[X] Expertise matters. And Stirland has precious little of it.
But I think this covers much the same ground and then some, if more lightly. The strongest professional institution Stirland has is probably the army, and even that gets broken on a regular basis.

Jovi blew himself up, Hexensohn stuck his nose in something he shouldn't, several necromancers bungled in various ways.
And on the nonmagical side, the Vampire Countess was a bit of a doofus, proper cannon had to be brought in from abroad, the army botched the assault on Drakenhof, the rest of the High Council was not quite up to scratch (previous Marshal corrupt, current Marshal underperforming, Chaplain ignorance, Architect near nonentity), the Stirlandian League used precious expertise for evil, the first thing Mathilde said to the Thieves' Guild was "You goddamn idiots", the Watch needed reform...

And on the bad side:
[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.
Van Hal. But also Markus. Jovi. Unknown great enemies who stood in the wrong spot when the artillery fired.
 
[X] It's not a great hero who carries the day, but a lot of small men working in concert.
[X] Sigmar abandoned his most worthy follower in his hour of need.

I'd much rather be bitter at this stingy Sigmar jerk then afraid of battle. The downside we choose is not going to go away anytime soon.

Editing more because approval voting.

[X] The Empire is a morass of self-interest, to the point of becoming a millstone around the neck of humanity.
[X] Expertise matters. And Stirland has precious little of it.
[X] Mathematics is universal.
 
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Leoric said:
... Why are so many picking dhar? Unless you plan to go vampire or full on necromancer then it is a hilariously bad idea seeing as you are still only human.

I mean, there is no shortage of examples of why messing with it is a fundamentally bad idea.
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Our boss is dead, Dhar can help make him not!dead.

Yes, I fully expect to jump ship from this option to one of my secondary priorities before this vote is over.
 
[X] Complex problems, simple solutions.
[X] Expertise matters. And Stirland has precious little of it.
[X] Mathematics is universal.

[X] Sigmar abandoned his most worthy follower in his hour of need.
[X] You can't trust people to have your back.
 
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[X] Unity brings Strength, Discord brings Failure.
[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.
 
TimEd said:
Can i temp you to vote instead for SpecOp? The fog of war and what use are dyin infantry gives us the chance to go full out spymistress (hopefully)
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SpecOp is just incredibly dull, and the only reason I see myself voting for it is if something even more dull risks winning.

Given that as far as I can tell it is currently winning, few chances of that.

Rafin said:
Can I tempt you to approval vote for the anti-Sigmar flaw then?
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Now that could be done. Though I'll wait a while for the votes to settle before throwing out approval voting, I need to look at least somewhat dedicated to the cause I've tried to champion.
 
[X] Magic used recklessly has catastrophic effects; great care must be taken in it's handling.

[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.

I'm not sure about the first option since their are so many I like, but I definitely like the second as a flaw.​
 
The arguments supporting The Confusion of Battle are missing the point. Yes, it's very plausible. But what does it bring to the plot table? What stories does it open? Because so far it seems entirely like a trauma that closes options rather than opening them. Opposing Sigmar or the empire, OTOH, opens up a fun new range of semi-terrible ideas.

Compared to that, The Confusion of Battle just seems dull to me. It's a obstacle, not a character direction.
 
[X] Expertise matters. And Stirland has precious little of it.
[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.
 
Leoric said:
... Why are so many picking dhar? Unless you plan to go vampire or full on necromancer then it is a hilariously bad idea seeing as you are still only human.

I mean, there is no shortage of examples of why messing with it is a fundamentally bad idea.
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Well we do have a great quantity of Qhaysh - Dhar is just a corrupted, debased for so maybe we could make something work.

WanderingEye said:
At worst we could try to harness the power and become insane necromancer.
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Eh... it isn't so bad. Like look at Nagash - sure he went loopy... but he was also the greatest human mage ever. Ever!

[X] If such rank amateurs could rival the strength of an entire Province, imagine what a skilled hand could do with Dhar.

I'm torn between blaming Sigmar or the entirety of the Empire so the vote might change but...

[X] The Empire is a morass of self-interest, to the point of becoming a millstone around the neck of humanity.

 
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[X] The best battle is one where the enemy never gets a strike in.
[X] In the confusion of battle, even the greatest warrior can lose their life pointlessly.

First one fits with our predilection for stealth and trickery as a Grey Wizard, and the second does the same as applied to our enemies in battle.
 
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