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.... We already have the EIC and our Fief funds to do that.....
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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.... We already have the EIC and our Fief funds to do that.....
Lealope
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As opposed to our fief, a place defined entirely by being dull as dishwater? Because the choice is between Roswita, an actual character with relevance, and seeing a bunch of goat farmers who wish we'd remain comfortably distant.
The entire point of the Vow is to ensure that Grey Wizards don't abuse their extremely abusable magic. A competent, malicious Grey is on the level of a Necromancer Lord in terms of damage they could do, given mind wiping and so forth. If you've actually ignored the Vow, you're evil, period. Algard himself would not and could not get away with that shit.
We do own a variety of businesses under the label of a conglomerate: it's called the EIC. As for our fief, just leave them alone. Their lives are fine as is and we've already set up a fund to fix whatever minor issues they may have. They really don't need or want us poking our wizard nose into their business.
Benevolent neglect is the way to go here.
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
We did that with the EIC. We took out a loan and started a business. The fief is likely already benefiting from our connection to the EIC. The steward would just have to walk to any EIC branch and say "Hey! I work for Mathilde. Would you like to buy stuff from me?"
@veekie, way late; but the topics that Qrech was most talkative about were Mors, Pestlians an why they should be destroyed. He fully attempted to throw them under the bus, possibly reasoning that even if the non-traitor clans will fail to end the traitor clans the man-things and dwatf-things will be able to do so.
He is kinda attempting to use Mathilde, which is why he was free to mention the names of the lesser traitor clans.
He is kinda attempting to use Mathilde, which is why he was free to mention the names of the lesser traitor clans.
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I was thinking of something like the huge spending Mathilde did on the library, surely there's a way to make gold a renewable resource, so she could do stuff like build orphanages, schools, hospitals higher standards of living for normal peasants, to do all that she needs money like the ones she spend on the library, and gold does not grow on trees, surely there's a way to use the remaining gold to have a stable source of income for special projects use
10ebbor10
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Quantum commuting.
Yeah, it's not so much a vow of poverty as a vow of don't abuse your powers. At least in this quest.
Well that is quite useful. Thanks!
Could Mathilde take lessons from other Colleges on stuff like staff carving - (if the other Colleges have staff carvers)?
I personally sort of hope we'll keep Qrech around as a butler/servant of sorts. The idea of a horrible ratman servant that's simultaneously too afraid and too used to the easy life to be disloyal getting ordered around by Wolf is really appealing for some reason.
I do wonder if Skyre and Eshin would accept screwing off in exchange for Karak Eight Peaks taking care of Mors?
Of course a truce won't last long term... but getting Karak Eight Peaks under control is basically a win condition for Belegar.
Skaven have rather short lives. We could probably just keep him until he dies of old age if he is useful enough.
Staff carving is a subset of enchantment. Options will start popping up about it next turn.
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Yeah, Sleek Sharpwit (who is/would be one heck of a Skaven) was around twenty years old, and a lot of his fellow Skaven were surprised he was still alive. And not just because of Skaven society.
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Dammit, why does so much cool stuff have to exist? I really want to learn more on the Aethyric Vitae. If we can involve it in a staff's creation...
Actuaklly come to think of it @BoneyM I remember that when we set up in K8P you said that Mathilde did not have a discretionary fund like in Stirland yet because things were just getting set up. Has that changed at all with the opening of the Silver Mines?
It's been working more directly, coughing up for things like Mathilde's murdertower and the books for Qrech.
NavySeel
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I'm slightly confused about people apparently being weirded out by the idea of Mathilde being attracted to someone related to someone else she was attracted to, yet there also being a decent portion of people who want to go for Johann who's gold body weirds me out much more in that sense.
Yeah, the staff should come after Magic 8, Aethyric Vitae research and after Mathilde gets better at enchanting.
Ideally we'd want it to be an epic staff on the same level as the sword, something that makes lesser wizards sigh in awe and that doesn't need to be constantly upgraded.
Entirely reasonable. Could we put books relevant to a specific turn's task on that tab? Like say if we were doing the Chaos Dwarf Book/Moulder project and wanted anatomy books?
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I'm going to sort out some sort of system for a book budget, details still pending though.
10ebbor10
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We didn't take the greed option, so Matilde is not actually attracted by gold, despite having a huge amount of it.
Also, Johann is not so much related to gold coins as wearing their corpses.
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As always, the work you do that makes this grand adventure so fun is something I'm beyond thankful for.
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I suppose from Mathilde's POV Johann's sweet tan is no worse than a mobile shadow, one that can kill people. To you or me it's unnatural to either of them it's an inevitable outgrowth of being a wizard. Holding his gilding against him while looking for someone who won't hold our marks against us seems a tad hypocritical.
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- Aotearoa
Well, in general yes, I'd agree. They're both mages and understand and accept what that means.
Gilding, however, is something Johann has done to himself, at not inconsiderable effort, risk and expense.
Lealope
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At this point in time, if orphans exist they're taken care of by their nearest family or the village itself. Moreover, there's never going to be so many orphans in a rural settlement for an orphanage to be necessary.
To learn what, pray tell? At this point, the vast, vast majority of people are learning from formal or informal apprenticeships. The only thing a school would do is waste their time since they'd be learning things that are entirely irrelevant to their lives.
Our fief is entirely too small to support a dedicated Shallayan and is entirely isolated besides. There's no real risk of physical harm there, very little exposure to bacteria or other viruses and they probably have an elder with herblore taking care of their medical needs anyway. If there's ever an issue widespread enough to benefit from a hospital, they'll ask the steward for help, just like they do when the roads are broken.
I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. An Arcane Mark is like being wounded in the line of duty, it's a natural consequence of being a wizard. Actively investing time and money so you can pour molten gold on your limbs to get a rockin' metal bod is something very different.
Now, I'm very sympathetic to the desire to not be limited to your disgusting, weak, hateful birth-flesh but I can also understand being weirded out by one and not the other. There's a big difference between an Imperial Guard Veteran and a Tech-Priest, to use 40K terms.
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NavySeel
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I don't see how not being attracted to something is the same as holding it against someone.
the big difference is that Stirland had more people and things to do than money.
K8P has the problem of not having enough people and things to spend the money on.
in one way its great for us when it comes to projects as we get all cash we need to throw at it, but the other side is that there is a population problem that's going to start limiting the expansion.
each of the council members gets all the budget they need because they are the only projects happening.
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This is the Ideal Male Body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Mathilde: "Johann, if I said you have a nice body, would you hold it against me?" 😘
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True, but I mostly mean in terms of diverging from human norm rather than 'willing or unwilling' considering marks are just the price of doing business with magic.
There's definitely a bit of a contrast between his choosing to become a bit more transhuman compared to Mathilde's and most Wizards becoming more transhuman by their very nature but given Mathilde's practicality and desire to be preprared for all outcomes I think that's more tied into a lack of means rather than aversion to the idea.
I don't quite agree with the analogy of an arcane mark being an involuntary prosthetic as opposed to the gilding's voluntary. From Mathilde's POV arcane marks are a matter of when not if, her getting them is an inevitability only stopped by abandoning a huge point of her identity and never casting again.
Presumably Mathilde wants people she's interested in to be attracted to her inspite of her shadow, or maybe spooky Ulgu hair, or being difficult to remember. Discounting Johann entirely because of the gilding seems a bit disingenuous then. We're not exactly an easy pill to swallow and it pays to be aware of that.
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