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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Plan Tower of Doom! and Research!

That absolutely awesome. Wizard are made to live in towers, and one that can moves is much more practical. It also has a very supervillain vibe, which is pretty cool. Nothing like smashing your enemies with a giant stone dick to show who's the boss.
 
[X] Armor of von Tarnus
[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar

Personally, I would have gone with some sort of 'send me your apprentices' plan to try and bulk up Mathilde's new school, but of the existing leading options I do quite like these.
 
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It does seem that the Armour of Tarnus for Mathilde would be "However strong you think this combo might reasonably be defensively, it's stronger than that." Only when you enter the realm of "this level of personal armour seems very unreasonable, it can't be that strong" do you start to approach it.

And yeah, people will come back with Malekith or twenty bloodthirsters as a memento mori. But that doesn't take away from how good this is.
 
Hmm, my first choice was the tower, but a tower more focused on being a war tower/forward operating base than a research tower. I'll go with the warship.

[x] Plan: The Prismatic Wanderer
 
[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar
[x] the secrets of what the Colleges know about what the Gods are
[X] Armor of von Tarnus
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
[X] Plan Not Pickle Requests Variant with Apparitions
 
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[x] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar
[x] Priority requisition access to Armor of von Tarnus
[x] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
[X] Save the boon until we choose our next project

And for approval:
[X] Armor of von Tarnus
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Elector-Countess


I have questions about two options:

Where can I find more info on what the "Elector-Countess" vote entails? Like, what are we proposing the Colleges do? Just support our claim once we have the land? Already spread the word of our plans? Assist militarily? All of the above?

@picklepikkl I assume that Mk IV is still your list, even if you didn't get to be the first to vote for it. Can I ask why you (and others) want an inextinguishable flame enchantment on our gyrocarriage? I know it makes fuel costs much cheaper. But have we even once been limited by fuel on screen? What impact would it have on the Quest?
 
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Boney said:
Adding a layer of silk, even really good silk, is not going to make a meaningful difference to someone who is already wearing some of the best magical armour the Empire has plus Lord Magister level Aethyric Armour. That level of protection is an absurdity that exists in utter defiance of any notion of physical laws.
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Aesthetically speaking, how does the armor look? Given that von Tarnus was a Greatsword before he was a wizard, did it look like the kind of armor they usually wear? Did it have some flourishes to indicate it was a wizard's armor?

picklepikkl said:
Replace "Gold" with "Grey." Plus, unlike the Phoenix Crown, the Armor of von Tarnus is readily available for Collegiate Wizards to study. It's right there. And the Brights are already the College that is most into enchantment, and unlike us von Tarnus was using the same Wind they are. So what I'm saying is that undoubtedly generations of talented Bright enchanters have poked at it when it's not in use, and yet it remains something that has not been duplicated or systematized. Odds that we can somehow do better without any advantages beyond "very good Windsight" (yes, we have the Enchanter trait, but what do you want to bet that some of the Brights who have studied it have had something comparable?) and at least one major disadvantage seem really bad: I certainly would not vote to spend AP on it, I would prefer to just take a stab at Windherded robes.
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Yeah, I vaguely recall a Boneypost saying that the Brights have had von Tarnus' notes and works forever and of course haven't been able to replicate most of them because they're the work of a genius - and that's for people who actually wield his Wind. That's just one of the benefits and flaws of bespoke human genius, I suppose.
 
[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar

[X] Break College Favor/ Tenure
 
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Rafin said:
@picklepikkl I assume that Mk IV is still your list, even if you didn't get to be the first to vote for it. Can I ask why you (and others) want an inextinguishable flame enchantment on our gyrocarriage? I know it makes fuel costs much cheaper. But have we even once been limited by fuel on screen? What impact would it have on the Quest?
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Just the narrative of "our transportation mechanism has a longer range". The point of the mk IV plan is that it doesn't do any one thing as well as the Single Boon options, but it does a lot of things people want. So it simultaneously gets us a better armor slot, buffs the institutions we control, etc., and that includes "makes our means of travel better" since that's clearly something people want.
 
Considering we're being offered magical secrets, battle magic enchantments and new towers from the divided boons, I imagine inextinguishable flame as a boon from the entire Bright college will do quite a bit more than make fuel costs cheaper.
I hesitate to say fuel will no longer be a concern at all, but I think it would absolutely allow us to easily leave refueling range of a Karak without even thinking about it.
 
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Parabola said:
Aesthetically speaking, how does the armor look? Given that von Tarnus was a Greatsword before he was a wizard, did it look like the kind of armor they usually wear? Did it have some flourishes to indicate it was a wizard's armor?
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It's symmetrical rather than being the armoured nondominant side favoured by many Greatsword companies. It bears a very stylized depiction of the Key of Secrets, the Bright Order take on the Rune of Aqshy, which symbolizes unlocking power through knowledge.
 
Tobtorp said:
No thats a branch college, more on the research side of things. The ducklings was us organizing the wizards that joined the expedition and keeping that up until they didn't need help anymore.
We do not have any obligation to teach anyone anything.
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True; I would have pushed for expanding that branch college with some more people and turned it into an actual institute - with a focus on non-traditional methods of study like our Ducklings, leyline shenanigans, etc. Maybe also asked for some staff who could identify prospective talents in the areas near K8P, that sort of thing. But I was late to the party, so eh.
 
[X] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
[X] Elector-Countess
[X] Plan Tower of Doom! and Research!
[X] Dispensation to study methods of destroying or beneficially transforming Dhar

Approval votes:
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Plan: The Next Generation
[X] Plan : Sky Citadel
[X] Plan Not Pickle Requests Variant with Apparitions
[X] Plan: Wrong Turn at Albuquerque
 
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Parabola said:
Aesthetically speaking, how does the armor look? Given that von Tarnus was a Greatsword before he was a wizard, did it look like the kind of armor they usually wear? Did it have some flourishes to indicate it was a wizard's armor?


Yeah, I vaguely recall a Boneypost saying that the Brights have had von Tarnus' notes and works forever and of course haven't been able to replicate most of them because they're the work of a genius - and that's for people who actually wield his Wind. That's just one of the benefits and flaws of bespoke human genius, I suppose.
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I wasn't able to find that specifically, but I did find this:
Codex said:
@Boney I have a question about the Armor of Van Tarnus. Is it possible for Mathilde to spend favor to get a look on the enchantment if the Armor is in the vaults of the Colleges of Magic, as a source of inspiration? I was just thinking about Von Tarnus and he was an amazing enchanter, and I was wondering if we could look at his work and see if we could learn something. Sorry if the question seems out of nowhere, but I've been thinking it for a while.

It's also quite possible that we get absolutely nothing from looking at the enchantments.
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Boney said:
If Mathilde was a Bright Wizard there might be useful insight to be gleaned, but she's doubly separated from Von Tarnus' enchantment idiom.
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And a bunch of assorted posts emphasizing that von Tarnus was a genius and his work is not easily reverse-enchanted. So I think that's as clear an indication as we're going to get: yeah, studying the Armor is possible, but getting any sort of useful results out of it is basically never going to happen.
Boney said:
It's symmetrical rather than being the armoured nondominant side favoured by many Greatsword companies. It bears a very stylized depiction of the Key of Secrets, the Bright Order take on the Rune of Aqshy, which symbolizes unlocking power through knowledge.
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Out of curiosity, is this the sort of thing that an enterprising Wizard might reasonably wear a robe over? Not necessarily to hide the armor, I imagine that it would still be very visible in silhouette, especially when moving. But just because robes are part of one's look, you know?
 
picklepikkl said:
Out of curiosity, is this the sort of thing that an enterprising Wizard might reasonably wear a robe over? Not necessarily to hide the armor, I imagine that it would still be very visible in silhouette, especially when moving. But just because robes are part of one's look, you know?
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You could, but it seems much more likely that you'd end up with a Knight Templar or Clone Wars Jedi vibe than Wizard.
 
[X] Armor of von Tarnus
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Elector-Countess
[X] Break College Favor/ Tenure
 
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[X] Save the boon until we choose our next project
[X] Plan Pickle Requests mk IV
[X] Plan Not Pickle Requests Variant with Apparitions
[X] Support in dispatching Battle Wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
 
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