Dermonster
The Shittiest Wizard
They can rune steel armor, though. We're not sending out knights with hardened linen and a prayer.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Not everywhere, but it could start a trend in the northern provinces.
Yes.
Natural Alchemy is a trait that would be come hugely more powerful if increased in effect. You'd need to cash in the entire boon to make Eike into a walking talking engine of reverse engineering things that people don't want reverse engineered.
I suppose it shows I'm doing a good job of keeping that dynamic under control if you outright don't believe that it exists, but wow it is not a good feeling to be told that the thing I've been actively wrestling with for seven years isn't actually real and that I'm just making it up.
It does. It's magic.
I'm open to the idea but I don't want to give blanket permission because I can't remember all the ones that exist off the top of my head and I'm concerned there's something in that list that would just be bonkers.
The exact lines on the map would be a matter of vociferous debate, and you wouldn't actually get the Runefang or the title until you did those reclamations, but the core idea is one that the authorities of the Empire would be receptive to.
Okay, I'm really going to need to ban the word 'airship' because half the people using it mean 'blimp' and the other half mean 'ocean ship except in the air'. But yes, this would vibe with what I'd imagine to be possible for either variety of airship.
No. If you want it to act independently, it needs to have a mind of its own. There are avenues for that but they tend to be astonishingly frowned upon.
Valid.
Yes.
You can get Wizard support for a reclamation of a nexus.
Don't do this.
Valid.
Also skeptical of the Pure CF, though admittedly thats partially cause of my innate temptation to use "birthday gift for Pan" for the Jade college boonThough on the more practical side as far as cf trades go... @Boney what sort of ballpark exchange rate might we expect for trading in some of our AV stockpile? I'm still inclined just from a "i think the colleges could use more Morbs right away rather than after they figure out blood harvesting and also i think its more useful than what mathilde could do with it at this point" perspective to give 8-10 gallons of our existing stockpile to the colleges. so if thats already going to give us 30+ CF then i'm not sure we need to go for pure CF in one of these boons as well
You wouldn't. Some sort of exchange rate might equalize at a later point, but nobody's going to be buying it after you just told them how to farm it themselves.
If you mean 'handwaved as off paying for themselves when they're not on-screen', that's okay. If you mean 'Boney has to come up with a new adventurer for them to have had every turn', aaaaaaaaaaabsolutely not.
Dermonster
The Shittiest Wizard
Very much the former. Apologies; I forgot the extra work doing anything beyond that would be.
And for reference I visualize airship here as 'giant water boat in the air'.
After a pleasant night and lazy morning in Pan's treehouse:
Pan: teasingly "You know, with how the tree is growing, it might not be long until I have the tallest tower"
Mathilde: grins a smile to make Ranald envious, the smuggest smile to ever have been smugged
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Okay cats and kittens, there's four and a half hours to go time, and I strongly encourage people who support various options for the Single Giant Boon to coalesce around proposed wordings of their things so that the tally isn't a horrific mess and Boney sheds a single crystal emo tear.
Selfishly, here are Single Giant Boons that I am interested in and would approval vote:
[] Armor of von Tarnus
[] Priority requisition access to Armor of von Tarnus
[] Support in dispatching battle wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
Other people can handle other things, but someone should do these things so that we're not scrambling while the vote is live and everything goes to shit.
(In particular, those of you who want things that fly should really sort your shit out: as Boney mentioned, there's a heap of difference between "a three-decker that flies" and "a zeppelin" (and, for that matter, between a blimp and a zeppelin))
Selfishly, here are Single Giant Boons that I am interested in and would approval vote:
- Armor of von Tarnus
- Armor of von Tarnus: Time-share edition
- 1600 Army Points Of Battle Wizards
- Break College Favour
- I Didn't Say Give Me A Lot Of Whispering Darknesses, I Said Give Me All The Whispering Darknesses You Have
[] Armor of von Tarnus
[] Priority requisition access to Armor of von Tarnus
[] Support in dispatching battle wizards to one major conflict of Mathilde's choice
Other people can handle other things, but someone should do these things so that we're not scrambling while the vote is live and everything goes to shit.
(In particular, those of you who want things that fly should really sort your shit out: as Boney mentioned, there's a heap of difference between "a three-decker that flies" and "a zeppelin" (and, for that matter, between a blimp and a zeppelin))
God every detail you give about this thing makes me want it more.
- Location
- Texas
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Its magic armor that makes us bullet proof.
We could wade through an army of weak enemies, and kill them all without even attacking between the armor and our belt.
What's not to love?
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
So the wording should probably be something like this?
[] A flying warship (not a blimp), suited for exploration, warfare and research
- Location
- wild blue yonder
All right, you yucks got me with the imagery and the 'not wanting to sit on multiple boons' argument.
[] Plan Howling Moving Castle.
We probably can even deal in Loremaster Okri and his 'paradrop ironbreakers' idea that's been losing votes for the last 30 updates.
That would work, so would just 'flying warship'.
- Location
- Eugene OR US
Tempting, very tempting.
I'm assuming stuff like dwarven construction could be obfuscated into a tower vote as well, since I can't think of reasons why anyone would specifically want a non-dwarven tower. No particular preference between the two, so I'd approval vote something like?
[] A flying warship
[] A floating tower
[] A flying warship
[] A floating tower
- Location
- Australia
Dodecahedron of Continental Drift
Windcatcher Prism
Wyssan's Weighted Dice. This one actually gets rules and background lore in WFRP 4e, which I'll cover after the Storm of Magic version.
The Dice are much more comprehensible in WFRP 4e. Monuments of the Reikland gives us rules, and Deft Steps Light Fingers tells us about its creator.
Lets you reverse the tens and units of a die roll, which is pretty sweet, but every time you use it, there's a 1 in 10 chance they become inert, so every use is a gamble. They were made by a Ranaldan grey wizard, and in both incarnations of the rules, there's always an element of chance.
Unrelated to this vote, what's the obvious downside of Seven Secret Sigils of Summoning that isn't so obvious to me? Enslaving your enemies to fight for you sounds like a pretty good deal.
Thinking about it more I've fully bought into the idea of using the boon to get political (and fighting?) support for becoming the Elector Countess of the Schattenwald.
1. It's actually feasible with the transcendent boon from Vlag sitting there, the minor boon for the runesmithing guild, probable support from Belegar, as well as any other mercenaries and armies that could be convinced to participate.
2. This gives a concrete goal to strive after the Waystone Project is done.
3. Reconquering the nexuses is already in our interests and this provides better reasoning for going for them then a more abstract "it's better for the empire."
4. It would be cool to become the first wizard elector count and funny to beat a literal wizard heir to the punch.
5. It would be incredibly funny to start the quest as an advisor to an elector count and over the course of a quest become an elector count.
1. It's actually feasible with the transcendent boon from Vlag sitting there, the minor boon for the runesmithing guild, probable support from Belegar, as well as any other mercenaries and armies that could be convinced to participate.
2. This gives a concrete goal to strive after the Waystone Project is done.
3. Reconquering the nexuses is already in our interests and this provides better reasoning for going for them then a more abstract "it's better for the empire."
4. It would be cool to become the first wizard elector count and funny to beat a literal wizard heir to the punch.
5. It would be incredibly funny to start the quest as an advisor to an elector count and over the course of a quest become an elector count.
How big could we hope a potential flying tower/fortress to be? Is adding a huge canon like Ulric's thunder but a dream? Could adding another set of Orbs to the bribe get us a bigger flying fortress?
- Location
- Void
Also if I'm understanding the "Break College Favor" reward, we'd be able to do that anyway I think if we had a big combat encounter in mind?
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
Honestly, on cool factor, I'm much more partial to a floating tower than a warship. Also, it has better synergies with our ultimate spell of Burning shadows. A blimp at least has enough area to matter. But with a ball of fire attached, we could use burning shadows as a crazy bomber equivalent with unlimited ammo.
Ambit
Help me
- Location
- Third Circle of Hell
...and we end up full circle as a true CK2 quest. The idea is more tempting than I thought.
Good luck figuring out succession, though.
I like this one too. I think it neatly walks the line between "useful for everybody else" and "self-indulgence."
- Location
- Australia
smh pigeonholing Mathilde as the 'tower-abusing burning shadows' wizard shaking my head.
- Location
- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
In terms of "Storm of Magic artefacts maybe powerable by AV" listed in the book, and noting that the Empire likely doesn't actually own some of these at this precise moment, this is what's listed:
- Blade of Last Resort - compels the bearer to issue and accept duels, but massively boosts their stats during those duels
- Dawnstar Sword - automatically hits, gets stronger with more ambient winds
- Dodecahedron of Continental Drift - localised terrain rearrangement
- Fozzrick's Floating Fortress - the personalised option just seems better
- Woodwaker's Wand - Remember that scene from the Two Towers where the orcs fled into Fangorn Forest and all that came out were screams? This does that.
- Living Deadwood Staff - mostly notable for introducing the term "arboreonecromancy".
- Giantkin Helm - temporarily turns the user into a Giant. Wounds carry over upon the effect ending.
- Windcatcher Prism - unit-scale buff whose effects depend on which Wind is blowing strongest right now. Effects are on the scale of fiery swords, regeneration, and dodging most non-magical attacks
- Paranoth's Piquet Fence - Portable fortress
- Rockcharmer's Flute - moves a hill
- Wyssan's Weighted Dice - temporary fate manipulation
- Arabyan Puzzle Box - massively boosts spellcasting, with the effect being stronger as the local concentration of Winds rises. Also boosts miscast rates
- Black Book of Ibn Naggazar - lets you cast the entire Lore of Shadows and Lore of Death...at the cost of a little blood sacrifice.
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- Location
- wild blue yonder
True. And I'd actually love to do something this nice for Eike - it definitely feels like she's been a bit neglected, and so much of how well we've done in this entire quest can be traced back to Regimand almost literally pulling us off a witch pyre. It would feel great to use this boon on her. God, this vote has me flip flopping something fierce.
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dinomannitro6
all your gender is belong to us
- Location
- The Land Where The Sunflowers Bloom
still quite a ways behind, but i wanted to put out a couple of ideas for secrets that could be revealed before the vote opens:
Asking everyone for secrets on the divine. I suspect given the colleges's specialties, a good specific question to ask is what they know on what the Gods are. What their giant god souls are like, the differences between spirits and god, how they influence the Aether and such.
Asking for knowledge of mist/smoke spells. stuff that could apply to all those Staff of Mistery spell ideas we've had. That would probably mainly be from the greys, celestials, and brights. but we could phrase it more generally for the others as transportation of spell effects thru the air.
Great Sage Equal to Heaven, clearly
Asking everyone for secrets on the divine. I suspect given the colleges's specialties, a good specific question to ask is what they know on what the Gods are. What their giant god souls are like, the differences between spirits and god, how they influence the Aether and such.
Asking for knowledge of mist/smoke spells. stuff that could apply to all those Staff of Mistery spell ideas we've had. That would probably mainly be from the greys, celestials, and brights. but we could phrase it more generally for the others as transportation of spell effects thru the air.
Great Sage Equal to Heaven, clearly
neutronium95
Mad Rocketeer
- Location
- The test site
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Location
- US
So out of curiosity, what sorts of things would this result in Eike being able to do, if it would become so much more powerful?