avatar11792
Et Sic Incipit
- Location
- Planet Earth, North America
[X] Plan Broken Heart
[X] [WAIFU] Sir Markus von Pfaffbach
[X] [WAIFU] Sir Markus von Pfaffbach
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
- Start date
- Fantasy Users' Choice!
Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
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That tally was a fucking mess let me tell you. So people, it's pretty much Van Hal or no one. Take your picks.
Though if people stopped voting for both Van Hal AND Anton then Van Hal is only a few votes behind no one.
Just pointing it out.
That tally was a fucking mess let me tell you. So people, it's pretty much Van Hal or no one. Take your picks.
Though if people stopped voting for both Van Hal AND Anton then Van Hal is only a few votes behind no one.
Just pointing it out.
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[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
I am going to admit a deep, dark secret here.
I don't care much for shipping in general. So I am incredibly biased in my vote.
The actual plan vote is simply becuase I view it as actually accomplishing the goals Van Hal set for Mathilde.
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I am going to admit a deep, dark secret here.
I don't care much for shipping in general. So I am incredibly biased in my vote.
The actual plan vote is simply becuase I view it as actually accomplishing the goals Van Hal set for Mathilde.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
[X] [WAIFU] Van Hall
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
Semi-awake now so apologies. I'm not overly concerned about Van looking down on embezzlement as the act is pretty much expected and harmless on it's own. The Count is aware derp grew up poor and now landed large of responsibility (estate to expand and book debt) so pocketing money is fineeee. (Just don't let the order find out.)
I agree watchman training and independence are both necessary, but the death of the league with funded (stolen during crackdown) underworld makes me nervous. As well as the possibility/responsibility of "why is there gibbly coming out of the slums when you have the watch?".
The "Grey Coat" name was indented to say nothing of the functions and to put image of Grey coat wearing agent in people's mind, where the agents are not uniformed unless it's a crackdown in action. (@BoneyM FYI) May back fire may not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just want to get the palace cleaned up and make sure there are no tunnels that derp doesn't know about. Palace should have some hidden paths here and there. Also, 1 less action to decide and maybe treasures!
Lunching with Juila is necessary in my view as she is the likely leader when derp delegates the watch or information network, spending enough to really find out her driver will reduce risk.
@Alliterate Don't worry about poking holes in my plan, i know i sometimes trip around with planning or math.
- Location
- il bel paese dove il sì sona
- Pronouns
- He
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [WAIFU] Van Hal
It's not like we actually need to marry him: we could always be his lover, it is hardly unheard of in a pseudo-renaissance setting after all.
@BoneyM thanks for this amazing quest! I think it would be better if an arrangement could be found that allows its scope to remain more personal, as this is what really sets apart this quest from usual CK2-style quests.
[X] [WAIFU] Van Hal
It's not like we actually need to marry him: we could always be his lover, it is hardly unheard of in a pseudo-renaissance setting after all.
@BoneyM thanks for this amazing quest! I think it would be better if an arrangement could be found that allows its scope to remain more personal, as this is what really sets apart this quest from usual CK2-style quests.
Kairos123
Insomniac Extraordinaire
[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
@Seventeen the reason I dislike your plan is the organization proposal. It bogs them down with stake-holding bureaucracy, where half the stake-holders hate each other. While I would very much like for witch hunters and witches to work together to fight the undead menace, that's not in the cards for the short or medium-term.
Essentially, it's too ambitious and would end up being more of a headache for Van Hal than a boon. Having it be college-centric now, but adding witch hunters down the line after it has proved useful is what I'm going to be aiming for.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
@Seventeen the reason I dislike your plan is the organization proposal. It bogs them down with stake-holding bureaucracy, where half the stake-holders hate each other. While I would very much like for witch hunters and witches to work together to fight the undead menace, that's not in the cards for the short or medium-term.
Essentially, it's too ambitious and would end up being more of a headache for Van Hal than a boon. Having it be college-centric now, but adding witch hunters down the line after it has proved useful is what I'm going to be aiming for.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Thanks for listening... but I don't agree with your analysis. We've already lunched with Julia, we know her ambitions- make Stirland a trade hub, it's right there on the Dramatis Personae post.You know we're taking risks on the embezzlement oversight, but ignore it with a smiley. That isn't how things work here... Van Hal is inherently suspicious. If he finds out we're siphoning money, he will wonder what it's for. He won't be inclined to pass it off as 'well, she was raised poor'. We are a knight now. We swore vows. He will expect better. And... it's unneccessary to request an increase. Special Branch is right there.Semi-awake now so apologies. I'm not overly concerned about Van looking down on embezzlement as the act is pretty much expected and harmless on it's own. The Count is aware derp grew up poor and now landed large of responsibility (estate to expand and book debt) so pocketing money is fineeee. (Just don't let the order find out.)
I agree watchman training and independence are both necessary, but the death of the league with funded (stolen during crackdown) underworld makes me nervous. As well as the possibility/responsibility of "why is there gibbly coming out of the slums when you have the watch?".
The "Grey Coat" name was indented to say nothing of the functions and to put image of Grey coat wearing agent in people's mind, where the agents are not uniformed unless it's a crackdown in action. (@BoneyM FYI) May back fire may not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Just want to get the palace cleaned up and make sure there are no tunnels that derp doesn't know about. Palace should have some hidden paths here and there. Also, 1 less action to decide and maybe treasures!
Lunching with Juila is necessary in my view as she is the likely leader when derp delegates the watch or information network, spending enough to really find out her driver will reduce risk.
@Alliterate Don't worry about poking holes in my plan, i know i sometimes trip around with planning or math.
So, I've gotta vote for another plan... and this one has momentum.
[] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [Waifu] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
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[X] [WAIFU] Van Hall
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
-[X] Interweave your network with the Watch as it expands, so that you can use the Watch to cover your network's communication lines and actions. (NEW)
-[X] Expand the administration of the Watch so that they can expand into other counties without your personal oversight.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills. (NEW)
--[X] Ranald's Blessing on Can I Come Too?
-[X] Overwork - Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Formal Proposal: Your idea for an undead research team intrigues Van Hal, but he wants more information. Write up a full proposal, including where it will fit in the existing heirarchy, and spend some time sourcing the equipment it would require. Write in details: Name, who it is technically a part of (Watch, Witch Hunters, Military, College, none), and whether it reports directly to you (becomes a new Organization you command) or not. (NEW)
--[X] Name: Autopsy Agency
--[X] Membership: College
--[X] Control: Van Hal
--[X] The organization would have wizards from the colleges, along with surgeons and hunters to best locate, combat, capture and dissect the undead encountered. The key difficulties will lie in detection, location and capture, where a wizard is best suited to the parts of detection and capture, being able to identify the Dhar at work and also counter or trace any necromancers involved.
--[X] While there may be political costs to a formal expansion of the colleges, the value here in Stirland should be well worth it, and there is the alternative of hiring Journeymen and keeping the control under Van Hal's personal authority if the politics prove stubborn about a formal expansion, as his position makes commanding journeymen wizards simple by law.
--[X] With the information gathered, it'd be helpful to the roles of Gustav, Kasmir and your own office to get the detailed reports. Specific tactics to fighting the unliving would greatly ease the losses on the forces combating the supernatural in the field, while your informants would also greatly benefit from identifying the more subtle forms of undead hidden within the populace or lurking where the people will only report otherwise vague rumors.. Then Kasmir's office to assess if the locals are coerced, duped or in collusion.
-[X] Enchantment: So far you've still failed to find suitable equipment (damn Wizard Chic) but you could always try to throw your authority behind commissions from glassblowers and blacksmiths. (-discretionary gold, action required to set up and learn to use equipment)
--[X] Just buy. Defer setup if you get anything
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Wilhelmina
-[X] These agents are getting expensive. Write up a proposal for your discretionary budget to be increased, instead of waiting for Van Hal to decide to increase it. (warning: attracts oversight to your current budget)
--[X] Budget increase dearly needed as the information network need huge expansion to refill the void left by the demise of the League, as well as watching the Watch to prevent corruption and hostile plants. Push for increase of 100 Gold at minimal, due to need to finding and keeping reliable officers.
-[X] Cut Embezzlement to 0. You have your own estate income now to cover your fees.
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
-[X] Interweave your network with the Watch as it expands, so that you can use the Watch to cover your network's communication lines and actions. (NEW)
-[X] Expand the administration of the Watch so that they can expand into other counties without your personal oversight.
-[X] Complete taking control of the renamed Stirland Watch. (finishes action begun last turn)
-[X] Integrate the rat catchers, sewer-jacks and gong farmers into the Watch, and begin having the rank-and-file of the Watch learn from them (Watch speciality action).
-[X] Expand the Watch into the County of Worden, prioritizing Worden and Potting.
-[X] Can I Come Too?: Everyone seems to be riding off to Leicheberg lately. Tag along and see what's going on with these Haunted Hills. (NEW)
--[X] Ranald's Blessing on Can I Come Too?
-[X] Overwork - Undead Research: This is Stirland. Time to bone up on your knowledge of the Undead.
-[X] Formal Proposal: Your idea for an undead research team intrigues Van Hal, but he wants more information. Write up a full proposal, including where it will fit in the existing heirarchy, and spend some time sourcing the equipment it would require. Write in details: Name, who it is technically a part of (Watch, Witch Hunters, Military, College, none), and whether it reports directly to you (becomes a new Organization you command) or not. (NEW)
--[X] Name: Autopsy Agency
--[X] Membership: College
--[X] Control: Van Hal
--[X] The organization would have wizards from the colleges, along with surgeons and hunters to best locate, combat, capture and dissect the undead encountered. The key difficulties will lie in detection, location and capture, where a wizard is best suited to the parts of detection and capture, being able to identify the Dhar at work and also counter or trace any necromancers involved.
--[X] While there may be political costs to a formal expansion of the colleges, the value here in Stirland should be well worth it, and there is the alternative of hiring Journeymen and keeping the control under Van Hal's personal authority if the politics prove stubborn about a formal expansion, as his position makes commanding journeymen wizards simple by law.
--[X] With the information gathered, it'd be helpful to the roles of Gustav, Kasmir and your own office to get the detailed reports. Specific tactics to fighting the unliving would greatly ease the losses on the forces combating the supernatural in the field, while your informants would also greatly benefit from identifying the more subtle forms of undead hidden within the populace or lurking where the people will only report otherwise vague rumors.. Then Kasmir's office to assess if the locals are coerced, duped or in collusion.
-[X] Enchantment: So far you've still failed to find suitable equipment (damn Wizard Chic) but you could always try to throw your authority behind commissions from glassblowers and blacksmiths. (-discretionary gold, action required to set up and learn to use equipment)
--[X] Just buy. Defer setup if you get anything
-[X] Free Time: Now well-established in Wurtbad, you can spend some time in your scant off hours getting to know someone better. Pick one character. (no action required)
--[X] Wilhelmina
-[X] These agents are getting expensive. Write up a proposal for your discretionary budget to be increased, instead of waiting for Van Hal to decide to increase it. (warning: attracts oversight to your current budget)
--[X] Budget increase dearly needed as the information network need huge expansion to refill the void left by the demise of the League, as well as watching the Watch to prevent corruption and hostile plants. Push for increase of 100 Gold at minimal, due to need to finding and keeping reliable officers.
-[X] Cut Embezzlement to 0. You have your own estate income now to cover your fees.
- Location
- Aotearoa
@veekie Maybe I can persuade you please to not invite oversight on our black ops budget? The Special Branch option is much better long term, it allows us not to have to request increases over and over again.
Rungni Khazadson
Just another random Runesmith!
- Location
- New Zealand
[X] [WAIFU] Van Hal
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
[X] [NetworkName] Shadow Watchers
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
Probably going to support these
[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
-make sure the cut in embezzlement happens well before the request for more funds
[X] [WAIFU] None of the above: Mathilde is open to the idea, but none of the current options really do it for her.
[X] [Actions] Plan Our Jobs Take Priority
-make sure the cut in embezzlement happens well before the request for more funds
The oversight isn't a problem as long as we aren't embezzling(which is being dropped in the same plan, seeing as we don't need to embezzle ever since we got our own estate to pay for our fees and wizard chic). The Special Branch is somewhat problematic because it makes our black budget a publically accountable part of the Watch budget. Essentially it'd be putting the CIA budget inside the FBI budget.
That and for the sake of action sanity it'd cost us an effective 3 more actions to do it that way, as a budget expansion costs no action as long as its justified, while the Special Branch costs us one Intel Network and one Watch expansion in opportunity cost.
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nothing wrong with difference in opinion, if Van is ok with steward and co to play corny business then embezzlement is fine. "Knight" is a political/military position, the focus of the vows would be on duty and protection; but is embezzlement going against it? Depends on context really.
Zedman7054
Eternally 3rd
- Location
- United States
[X] [WAIFU] Van Hal
What can I say, I think that the two of them get along very well, add in that Abelhelm has more 1-on-1 interactions with Mathilde than anyone else, well, it makes sense for a crush.
What can I say, I think that the two of them get along very well, add in that Abelhelm has more 1-on-1 interactions with Mathilde than anyone else, well, it makes sense for a crush.
No; the lack of bureaucracy for the watch means it takes actions to expand them and will make it more difficult to steer the watch as it expands, but it won't cost extra actions to run on it's own.
10g/turn after expenses.
Re: the current plan:
-[*] Enchantment: So far you've still failed to find suitable equipment (damn Wizard Chic) but you could always try to throw your authority behind commissions from glassblowers and blacksmiths. (-discretionary gold, action required to set up and learn to use equipment)
--[*] Just buy. Defer setup if you get anything
I'll go along with it this time because it's so late in the voting, but for future reference, everything in Personal Actions takes an action period. No deferring parts of an action to try to do it without an action expenditure.
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Claytonimor
WE WILL TAKE JERUSALEM
- Location
- Loudon, TN
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DESIRED
THIS CALLS FOR CELEBRATION!
Thus, to celebrate our girl's first schoolyard crush, I will now go spend all my money on gacha games before drinking myself into oblivion. Or I'll just go to sleep. I look forward to having a good morning read!
And that's the kind of feedback I would have appreciated earlier, instead of being ignored by just about everyone. At least I would have been able to change it based on people's concerns. Still, it doesn't matter now. I just won't bother writing a plan again.
Duly noted. It's how we've been doing it on the past turns, so didn't think we needed to change that.(bloody Wizard Chic)
