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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Learning Kislevarin actively would be nice given that it's possible Karak Vlag will have books on the Fire Spire, but as Thomasfoolery has noted, the process of learning Kislevarin is already passively happening - we just need to keep taking actions there like exploring their network, spreading Waystones there, and probably doing ore trading for Laurelorn.

High Nehekharan, however, can't be passively learned because it's not like we would spend "normal" actions in Nehekhara. It is quite literally a dead language, and outside of specific places like Numas, said dead aren't really in the habit of interacting with others all that much.
 
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Parabola said:
High Nehekharan, however, can't be passively learned because it's not like would spend "normal" actions in Nehekhara. It is quite literally a dead language, and outside of specific places like Numas, said dead aren't really in the habit of interacting with others all that much.
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It's a dead language with a pictographic writing system only used by necromancers and mummies. Passive learning doesn't stand a chance.
 
Somic said:
(I am totally fine with Mathilde paying proper respect to Verena, as long as it does not go further than that. And going on one-off adventures for the sake of other Gods is fine in some contexts, see Heidi. But regular concerted effort towards worshipping a deity for the sake of worshipping a deity is a bit too far.)
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I wonder how many of the people idly posting about hanging out with Verena a bit would also be satisfied if, say, the Libary-We were to become hardcore Verenans and we got to see bits of that.

I know that'd satisfy me, at least.
 
Parabola said:
Learning Kislevarin actively would be nice given that it's possible Karak Vlag will have books on the Fire Spire, but as Thomasfoolery has noted, the process of learning Kislevarin is already passively happening - we just need to keep taking actions there like exploring their network, spreading Waystones there, and probably doing ore trading for Laurelorn.

High Nehekharan, however, can't be passively learned because it's not like we would spend "normal" actions in Nehekhara. It is quite literally a dead language, and outside of specific places like Numas, said dead aren't really in the habit of interacting with others all that much.
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I don't agree that us dipping our toes in for a week or two at a time is having a meaningful impact on our picking up of the language. If we wanted to go that route, we'd need to be spending entire turns there. Notice how there is no indication we know even a smattering of Kislevarin on our character sheet.
 
I think Mathilde should see about invigorating the dämmerlichtreiterin to minor godhood instead. Would be a neat experiment, oh the things we could have done with the athyric vitae-divinity pattern and Ghenna's hounds, probably.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
I don't agree that us dipping our toes in for a week or two at a time is having a meaningful impact on our picking up of the language. If we wanted to go that route, we'd need to be spending entire turns there. Notice how there is no indication we know even a smattering of Kislevarin on our character sheet.
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Polyglot makes it a lot more feasible to pick things up from immersion. Turns long immersion is more along the lines of what it would take without Polyglot.

Boney said:
Polyglot also means if you spend a few action points somewhere another language dominates, you can pick up the language for free instead of it basically requiring full long-term immersion like with Khazalid.
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We have yet to spend an actual AP interacting with Kislevites in a systemic and extended way. I really want to investigate their Waystone Network next turn so we can figure out if it is possible to use the Anoqeyan command codes we were given to get Waystones onto their network; if yes, our life becomes relatively simple, and if not then it becomes moderately complicated. As a plus side, we get to see how much that affects our learning of Kislevarin through passive immersion.
 
chocolote12 said:
Morr is the one who picks up the dead in Kislev.

The problem is that commuting out beyond the cities is hard, so he doesn't do house calls, and since the soil is frozen rock hard you're not getting buried. If you die and don't get put in a Garden, you're stuck right where they left you, and many souls end up shambling back to camp because they forgot about the whole 'being dead' thing.

That's why they usually do something like taking the eyes out or leaving them tied up. The dead are poor company.
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Kislevites, broadly speaking, burn their dead because they are former Chaos worshiping steppe tribes who do not expect to rest easy. The ones who start walking are the ones who they do not have a chance to burn in time.
 
DragonParadox said:
Kislevites, broadly speaking, burn their dead because they are former Chaos worshiping steppe tribes who do not expect to rest easy. The ones who start walking are the ones who they do not have a chance to burn in time.
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Another part of it is that it's way more practical in a land where you can't really afford the time or effort for proper burials - there's only three cities in all of Kislev and there's danger from most directions.

However, Kislevites do still have funerals - it's just that they happen around the time people come of age - around the time men can join rotas or women can marry, because in both of those cases you can die (either from battle or from childbirth). So they do at least consider proper rites.

Realm of the Ice Queen said:
Foreigners sometimes form the impression that Kislevites are callous. Such is not the case; they have simply already said their goodbyes.
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(This is also why Boris was able to call for an autopsy of his father without it raising any eyebrows.)

Sometimes, instead of being burnt, warriors are strapped to their horses and sent out into the Oblast. Given how in quest canon Kislev's network goes around most of the nation and the Oblast is in the middle, I think it's possible that sending out dead warriors there does have some reason behind it. Maybe they reach the Widow in the process.
 
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Mopman43 said:
At least in Night's Dark Masters, mechanically it is the physical exposure to running water that hurts Vampires with this weakness (stated to be as much as sunlight hurts those with that weakness)

They can cross over a bridge or by boat, but if they fall into the water they'll suffer.
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Yep. We see that in action with Ulrika in her novels. The running water literally flays her body and also spiritually flays her soul and memories.
 
Parabola said:
Sometimes, instead of being burnt, warriors are strapped to their horses and sent out into the Oblast. Given how in quest canon Kislev's network goes around most of the nation and the Oblast is in the middle, I think it's possible that sending out dead warriors there does have some reason behind it. Maybe they reach the Widow in the process.
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I wonder if a Kislev-born Amethyst wizard could use this cultural paradigm to create a Shyish version of Shadowsteed?
 
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