I guess he really does like knights.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- He/Him/His
5/19 dice came out as 1s. Less than 20% of possible rolls end up that badly. Mandred Quest seems to have a Snake Eyes meme instead of a Boxcars one
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- Leeds
Was getting Mathilde their one good roll or their worst one?
E: Wait, piety was a 4d6 is that correct or should it drop one for 4 keep 3?
E: Wait, piety was a 4d6 is that correct or should it drop one for 4 keep 3?
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NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
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These are, I suppose, just his base stats, without any traits? If so, it's not the end of the world. The fluff behind these scores will be interesting though. I imagine the tug of war over him between Sigmar and Ranald might be contributory to the low piety, for example.
Right, so that's a mess, glad it's not our job to fix it. A low learning wizard increases the odds of him exploding during training and low piety increases the odds of falling to Chaos. Also low intrigue makes him a bad Ranaldite in particular.
There are statistical ways this kid could be worse but conceptually he is terrible as a wizard even as he is pretty decent as a future ruler. Is it too late to strap some of those dampeners to him?
There are statistical ways this kid could be worse but conceptually he is terrible as a wizard even as he is pretty decent as a future ruler. Is it too late to strap some of those dampeners to him?
Omegahugger
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Urge to illogically blame this on Sigmar being a petty bitch rising.
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He's looking better and better as a candidate for the Brights, I've gotta say.
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- Oklahoma
I'd just like to note that Mathilde's base initial martial was 6.
Starting stats are not the whole story, just the beginning.
Starting stats are not the whole story, just the beginning.
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Keep in mind low learning means higher odds of miscasts and thus arcane marks. Brights have pretty bad ones, especially the mental ones. I'd say Jade to be honest just based off minimizing damage
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
… You know, if we wanted to, I'm pretty sure Mathilde has the means to teach even someone of Mandred's skills how to summon things from beyond.
To be fair, these are his initial stats. Mathilde started with, what, 9 diplomacy and 6 martial? And look at her now.
And for an Elector Count and potential Emperor diplomacy is arguably the most important stat. You can't excel at everything, and 14 martial and 13 diplo are pretty good. And even his lower stats are below average, but not terrible - nothing a decent education can't fix.
In comparison:
Mandred's stats are 13D-14M-11S-8I-7L-10P for a total of 63 points
Mathilde's original stats were, IIRC, 9D-6M-10S-13I-13L-15P for a total of 66 points
An average person's, assuming perfectly average rolls of 3 dice = 10.5 points, would get 63 points in total as well
Also, 'Karl Franz but also a Wizard' sounds dope
And for an Elector Count and potential Emperor diplomacy is arguably the most important stat. You can't excel at everything, and 14 martial and 13 diplo are pretty good. And even his lower stats are below average, but not terrible - nothing a decent education can't fix.
In comparison:
Mandred's stats are 13D-14M-11S-8I-7L-10P for a total of 63 points
Mathilde's original stats were, IIRC, 9D-6M-10S-13I-13L-15P for a total of 66 points
An average person's, assuming perfectly average rolls of 3 dice = 10.5 points, would get 63 points in total as well
Also, 'Karl Franz but also a Wizard' sounds dope
So he just needs to spend the next two decades in life or death learning/piety tests and not die or worse and then he will be a prodigy. Mathilde isn't a good standard for anyone to follow
Getting stats from 7 to 10+ is considerably easier than that.
Maybe spoiler this? Gives away the subject of discussion. Aaaaactually nevermind, enough people slipped here and there a bit. Prolly pointless now.
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True but the objective isn't to become Stirland competent he is going to be a target for a lot of unpleasant things and right now he is a very, very soft target. Mandred will be in more danger than Journeywoman Weber in many ways. Heck, right now he is in possession of a secret that could seriously damage the succession and wellbeing of his father the Emperor, namely that his mother is a Ranaldite... and he has 8 base intrigue.
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Especially since he'll get all the help the Emperor and the Colleges can get him. It's not like he's your random peasant kid, everyone is really invested in him doing well. As seen by how, while your average Wizard is given some advice by whoever found them and left to choose whichever College they thinks suits them most, Mandred is going to get eight high ranking Wizards and Wizard Lords - possibly including the Supreme Patriarch himself - debating about which one is better for him.
Van Hal had terrible Diplomacy, Stewardship and Intrigue and middling Piety (though that was our fault, and he would probably have fixed it eventually). Yet he was an amazing Witch Hunter and a good Elector Count.
Mandred will manage, I'm certain. Especially since he's ten right now. He's got the time, and will have the resources, to improve.
Mandred will manage, I'm certain. Especially since he's ten right now. He's got the time, and will have the resources, to improve.
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- Denial
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- She/Her
Well ya know there is a whole college dedicated to teaching intrigue he could attend if that's an issue.
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Also I wonder if Mathilde could help with his piety, right now he's presumably been taught the more orthodox Ranaldian beliefs of his mother but if he hasn't gelled with that maybe Mathildes version of viewing Ranald as an annoying friend will work for him
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Sure and it is very unfair to judge him by those standards, sadly the monsters out there are no respecters of childhoods and just being a wizard introduces unique weaknesses and temptations that other children do not face. Seriously he has below average stats he needs to not explode, not give in to temptation and not blab damaging secrets
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- California, USA
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- He/Him
I like the stats a lot, and the low learning is at least interesting, but man that piety stings. I'm sorry Ranald, I guess your big gambles sometimes do turn up snake eyes...
It also entirely removes the Lights from consideration in my eyes. They used to be my front runners, but low learning in the most difficult to master college, low piety in the Chaos focused college, not to mention it would probably massacre any half formed loyalty to Ranald he still had...
Celestials seem the best pick to me now, especially on a Karl Franz type.
It also entirely removes the Lights from consideration in my eyes. They used to be my front runners, but low learning in the most difficult to master college, low piety in the Chaos focused college, not to mention it would probably massacre any half formed loyalty to Ranald he still had...
Celestials seem the best pick to me now, especially on a Karl Franz type.
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Consider his mother, his father, and a bunch of Lord Magisters interested in his well-being.
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Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
From my admittedly faded memory, Delven assassins have absolutely ludicrous initiative scores. Higher even than those of vamps.