Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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If we could predict when the next Everchosen will appear we would already be using that knowledge for so much more than just deciding whether to build canals or not.
Well. The tone of the thread shifted *dramatically* in the last couple pages towards canal building lol.
I still kinda want to ask for support reclaiming nexuses so we can throw a fuckload of cavalry at whatever crawls put of the Marcher fortress when we bring it back to reality or something. But the canal plan does sound cool.
I still kinda want to ask for support reclaiming nexuses so we can throw a fuckload of cavalry at whatever crawls put of the Marcher fortress when we bring it back to reality or something. But the canal plan does sound cool.
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First, there's two ways to read that. The Imperial Military, or the Empire as a whole + just the Dwarven military. And also, priority access is a lot and causes issues and resentment (especially as it would be above even Kislev military use). That's honestly a bad idea. Just create a canal. The best use of the canal will be found by those who use the canal.
Quite simply, I'm going to vote for the below, and not for other canal votes. Adding extra steps simply makes it worse.
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I'll be honest, still not overly enthusiastic about a project that is likely to take decades to pay off IC and which might therefore get interrupted by the Everchosen, but I know a losing fight when I see one. If I keep arguing for books that will be Mathilde being 'selfish' in her desire to safeguard knowledge because she would actually get some use out of it. So fine I'm going to vote books and leave the rest as is.
I just hope that AV book does not fail by a margin of 5 next turn.
I just hope that AV book does not fail by a margin of 5 next turn.
Tasoli
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- Behind the Keyboard.
There is not, so improving transportation infastructure is a good idea as that would allow Empire more time to react and to move troops north faster.
Right keep it vague. Got it.
Infact I might not be awake when vote starts so somebody please post it if you are awake for me will you? Let us catch early voters that has not kept up with the thread.
[] [Blood] Empire (Canal linking the Urskoy and Lynsk)
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It's mostly from a word of boney that said the canal is actually realizable
A half finished canal is useless for transportation though, it is only good if it's done in time.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
True and could happen. But when it is done it will help enourmously, far more than books I think.
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
"But I would dig 100 miles
And I would dig 100 more
Just to be the woman who digs two hundred miles
To spite Marienburg to its face~"
Personally, I'd go with picklepikkl's idea of just saying "Build a canal connecting the Urskoy and Lynsk". Maaaaybe we could add "...and let the EIC establish an outpost in Erengrad", but it's possible we/Wilhelmina will jump on it regardless and it would be an unnecessary addition - now that Boris is Tzar, the Kislevite market, mentioned as being closed to foreigners before, might not be so anymore.
And I would dig 100 more
Just to be the woman who digs two hundred miles
To spite Marienburg to its face~"
Personally, I'd go with picklepikkl's idea of just saying "Build a canal connecting the Urskoy and Lynsk". Maaaaybe we could add "...and let the EIC establish an outpost in Erengrad", but it's possible we/Wilhelmina will jump on it regardless and it would be an unnecessary addition - now that Boris is Tzar, the Kislevite market, mentioned as being closed to foreigners before, might not be so anymore.
Tasoli
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- Behind the Keyboard.
Using canals to reach Altdorf from Erengard via rivers is going to be safer than using Sea of Claws even thanks to a lack of pirates.
That will be good for everybody.
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Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
35 years from Quest present.
not when it took place how long did the everchosen touranment take?
Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
There was no Everchosen Tournament in canon, Archaon simply took the role after a series of increasingly difficult trials. But he launched his attack in 2521. Canon is not a useful metric here.
Still, the faster a project starts, the faster it ends and the faster we will see its benefits. Like the saying goes, the best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago, but the second-best time is today.
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I do think that it would be a very good use for the Boon, yes, and provided that Boney is fine with it, I think you should add 'Mathilde contributes her Minor Karaz-a-Karak boon to the endeavour' to the write in.
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There is some idea in universe. Teclis' interlude speaks of 'energy levels rising'. Boris resorted to assassination over waiting. Mathilde (and seemingly other people in the grey order intelligence apparatus) are mentioning portents. Nothing would ever get done if one halts infrastructure over mere suspicion, but it's a consideration worth accounting for. Would snagging that manpower leave Kislev dangerously overextended? Can it afford 5-10 years? Of course, the very same canal simplifies wartime logistics quite neatly, so it's probably a risk worth taking.
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Depends how you count it. Archaon set out to gather the
Tasoli
Life is for Living
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- Behind the Keyboard.
We also have minor favor from KaK if you think Transencended Favor of Vlag is too big. And a Great deed might be on the menu if we want to try and swing partial ownership.
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It's true, and there's an argument to be made that given the uncertainties it would be smarter to invest in defenses instead, but... I really like the thought of Kislev working on something that will help it grow. It's an optimistic statement, that they don't need to shovel everything into the furnace of bare survival and can actually invest in things that benefit them in peace as well as in war.
In the interest of getting it done ASAP and without beggaring Kislev, I would definitely spend other premium currencies to support this in the future, too, though now is not the time (our Vlag boon seems very relevant -- linking these rivers helps them, too, by lowering the costs of getting between Vlag and southern Kislev/the Empire).
I suspect the DL Everchosen invasion might happen earlier than in canon, because the expedition kinda shook a few things up—most notably, the return of Vlag. I don't think it's a coincidence that we were first informed of the tournament shortly after returning from Dum.