Not sure if that's what Boris is saying.
What he seems to be saying is that Vladimir isn't even trying and instead is just running around looking for any skirmish. Maybe if he tried to rule the Boyars would go along with it... but he's not trying.
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Not sure if that's what Boris is saying.
What he seems to be saying is that Vladimir isn't even trying and instead is just running around looking for any skirmish. Maybe if he tried to rule the Boyars would go along with it... but he's not trying.
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Here's a hack for keeping your finger on the pulse of DL discussion when you cannot spare the time to read literally every post since the last time you looked at the thread: read Boney's posts. Easy ways to do this include the Postings tab on their user page and clicking the number next to their name in the Who Replied page from Thread Tools. Since Boney quotes questions before answering them, you will be able to easily see what clarifications have been made since the last time you caught up with the thread; you might not be current with the thread's thinking and discussion, but you will be current with the Word of QM, which is very valuable for being able to jump in on the most recent page and contribute.
And if they have not understood the message i am sure Boris will teach them an harsh lesson.
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Talking about this bit, mainly.
Though you will miss out on interesting discussions that Boney does not feel the need to comment on. And also very dumb discussions that aren't quite dumb and long running enough for Boney to shut down.
That said, the thread/discussion has been particularly fast, at least by recent standards.
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Today I learned that Abraham Lincoln invented the chokeslam.
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Simple, you make a copy and put it in both. this way you more books!
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Probably evil, unfortunately.
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That rapidly becomes impractical with a physical library; every book is likely able to go in at least two or three different locations and some will go in a lot more. Essentially, you're massively increasing the size of the library, which also increases investment and upkeep costs and the difficulty of finding anything, for relatively minimal gain.
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You can always put a link there instead - a single sheet of paper saying "Book X exists, it is filed under Y".
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This just in, local forum posters take a crack at solving library science!
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In practical terms, these will all get lost pretty much immediately in any library involving actual people using the books.
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Their ultimate attack is Throwing The Good Book
Generally not. Divine magic is safer (a failure is more like pissed off god, rather than thrown in the warp), but packs less oomph.
Not that it's impossible for it to be that powerful, just like cataclysm magic is a level up from normal BM. But it won't be a regular thing. There's no equivalent to battle wizards.*
*Well, Liche Priests can be pretty damn powerful, but how much that is divine and how much it's winds, is not known.
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According to the books I've read, their magic is ritualistic in nature. All of their high end magic is ritual, and that amplifies the abilities of their spells. It also greatly amplifies the negative consequences, because a single mistake is likely to end up killing you. Lots of Liche Priests end up working together to do these rituals, so it's not usually any one Wizard doing it. Many of their spells are pre-arranged as well, like their constructs involving rituals that take a while to set up.
Ahh, good to know. I just had some memory of Tomb Kings getting their own Lore on the table top.
All this talk abaout magic gives me a question, are we going to add anything to Mathilde spellbook in the next turns? Beside the Apparition i mean.
Maybe we can study some new Battle Magic, Steed of Shadows and Pit of Shades seem pretty good to me. Or we can try to create a new spell, one of my ideas was trying to replicate a spell from another Lore using Ulgu.
Maybe we can study some new Battle Magic, Steed of Shadows and Pit of Shades seem pretty good to me. Or we can try to create a new spell, one of my ideas was trying to replicate a spell from another Lore using Ulgu.
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I can't remember the details, but the Lore of Nehekhara functioned strangely in 6th edition, but followed normal spellcasting rules in 8th edition.
It's worth noting that every single spell calls on one of the gods- Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting, for example.
The thread has generally been hesitant to learn more Battle Magic- it's possible our best bet at another is binding a misty Apparition that would benefit from the Staff.
What ababout the idea of replicating another Lore spell using Ulgu?
Replicating spells from other lores is generally a no go. You might be able to create a similar effect, if there's conceptual overlap. However, that also requires the right aptitude for the wizard. This is Mathilde's traits and skills, but it must be very closely related, or her one spell creation trait Warrior of Fog, where the relationship can be a lot more distant. Rite of Way was created from Warrior of Fog, for example. There's also a list of spell ideas Boney has oked, so check those out.
As for battlemagic, the problem is that there's an inherent, unavoidable risk for each cast, and also for learning. Well, except for fog/mist based spells, because their difficulty gets moved down one level with the staff.
Steed Of Shadows doesn't really fill a great hole for Mathilde. Pit of Shades is cool, but it's also one of the most dangerous spells, and one of the oked spells is a AoE damage mist, which would be safe to cast. That's the most likely next candidate, but AP are always hard fought. Personally, I'd like to use at least 1 AP on arcane mark control before we go for more spells.
Exactly, it's battle magic effects, but seemingly divine magic. As Codex has said, it seems like the lore function is different though.
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And of course we still need to codify Knightbringer.
I will check out the approved list then and see if i can contribute with my ideas. Thanks very much for the informations!
Good points on Battle Magic, i agree with you.
That should be absolutely the priority, i am still kinda disapointed we didn't hunt down more Red Riders to bind.
Summoning 10 knights at once would have been epic, and the faces of our enemies would have been hilarious.
Yeah, especially since we managed to make it FC. That's a huge value add, and a great step in populising not-daemonology in the Grey Collage. Thereby giving yet more work and headaches through our success.
We'll get him to crack yet. Either Knightbringer, or Waystones, or Morbs, or the liminal realm, or Kislev suddenly deciding the Colleges are great, or Teclis showing up.
Ok, I hadn't actually realised just how much we're putting on his plate. It's great!
Awesome. Though, please suggest the idea first to the thread before pinging Boney. It's been a very long thread, and a lot of things have been suggested, so the thread has a decent idea what can work and what can't.