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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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infinityDivided said:
I guess doing some kind of high-stakes gamble would be appropriate; for all that Mathilde cleaves closer to the Protector, K8P was the site of one of Ranald's biggest gambles. 'If Ranald was willing to risk it all here, then you should try something similar' or something like that.
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We are already working on that:
Boney said:
This is the moment you had been bracing yourself for. For all that cooperation and harmony was spoken of, this relationship was going to be a game of bluff and deception, with ancient secrets for chips and closely-guarded techniques for cards. Each side would be determined to glimpse as many cards and take as many chips as they could while giving away as little as possible. You had managed to win a seat at this table for the Empire, and there was one thing you needed to avoid admitting at all costs: that you have no chips and no cards.

You're sure that somewhere, Ranald is grinning.
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WorldSlayer said:
I knew we should have grabbed that Mammoth while we had the chance. Now we'll forever be doomed to be one grand theft short.
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A diary from a corpse

We still have the liber mortis tucked away under our hat. While we absolutely inherited that one the person we inherited it from isn't the rightful owner. We are the latest hand in a long running multigenerational heist version of keep away where we are ensuring that book STAYS stolen from it's rightful owner.

A soul from a Dwarf

I know the dawi blame Ranald, but you know in your heart of hearts that it was us who stole our way into Dwarfhood, even if the dwarves will never admit it.
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
The pilgrimage of fingers is fun to theorise about, but in practice it's a religious dedication proclaiming that our absolute loyalty is to Ranald and no one else, which is more or less an amputation of the whole divided loyalties concept, burning every other relationship we have in the process.
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But we consistently have rededicated ourselves to Ranald given the chance (see the faith vs reason debate we had with the Ranald juice). We have a single loyalty when it comes to the divine (we could have expanded to add other gods in a number of opportunities, but didn't), it's just that that loyalty comes into conflicts in other places (loyalty to dwarves, grey college, Empire, etc).

It also doesn't mean that our regular loyalty is only to Ranald, any more than our oath to the college means we are only loyal to the College. We have a formalized relationship with nearly all of our other loyalties (or at least we did have one when we were spymaster/loremaster for our previous jobs). I don't see why we wouldn't formalize this one too.

LightLan said:
We are already working on that:
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This line emphasizes that I think we should get this after waystones. This was the ultimate deception right here. We scammed everyone out of their secrets with a massive bluff.
 
mathymancer said:
Yeah, there's the theme of thefts from evil Gods that the Waystone project doesn't fit, which is also why I don't want to count all the various places Mathilde reclaimed. Vlag is unique in this regard because it was held by Daemons, which are basically pieces of Slaanesh.
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What more evil gods are there to steal from (not counting the 4 )? Hasuth, The Great Maw and I can't think of any other tbh.
 
You know, NEET Teclis is probably not going to take how swole most wizards are with shirtless wonders Dragomas and Johann, I cast sword Mathilde, hidden guns Egrimm...

Teclis: at least the apprentice is like me.

Eike: *wonders why Tyrion is giving her a thumbs up*

Teclis: ...
 
Retrueno said:
What more evil gods are there to steal from (not counting the 4 )? Hasuth, The Great Maw and I can't think of any other tbh.
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Why not count the other Four? There's three left, that's just enough.

Other than that and the two you mentioned there's a bunch of relatively minor proscribed Gods, the best of which are probably Solden and Gunndred, both of which are diametrically opposed to Ranald. If we ever manage to screw over Khaine somehow I'll definitely count Him too.
 
I'd guess Sarvoi, Thorek and all the collages know. It's just that even If Mathilde doesn't know waystones, she does have a wide berth of actual waystone knowledge, and more importantly, as the current mananger of the waystone project has bought in actual results in form of tributaries.

Even if they figure out Mathilde doesn't know, she's still done a lot more then any singular geniuses have done the last couple centuries. So more or less work out, where nobody really wanna pop the ballooon.
 
Going on a Pilgrimage of Fingers is asking Ranald to use it to break our other relationships, so that the only loyalty we have left is to Him. Declaring retroactively that we've already gone on a Pilgrimage is cheeky, likely to amuse Ranald, and carries none of the same risks.

Maybe we could get the tattoo done with invisible ink? That's simultaneously keeping it hidden to avoid people noticing, and keeping it hidden because the marks of Ranald are not to be worn openly. I'd unironically be down for that.
 
If Teclis is coming I want to go deeper into Windherder. In the past Teclis tried to teach Boland how to wield High Magic, Windherding is not the same, but it's close enough to be impressive I think.
 
Wiggy said:
Go steal ghal maraz and add sigmar to the gods we're stealing from. There's even precedent!
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Kasmir: "I have come to the conclusion that Sigmar urgently needed Van Hall by his side."

Mathilde: "I have come to the conclusion that I urgently need Sigmar's most valuable artefact by my side."

Kasmir: "Wait no-"


Also since the druchii are a bunch of horny Slaaneshi simps let's mug them too when we go to Nagarynthe.
 
Tomcost said:
A victim from a murderer sounds nice too
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Blood from a Blood God.

We would be stealing the Blood of Aenarion from Khaine, the elvish good of blood and murder.

Retrueno said:
If Teclis is coming I want to go deeper into Windherder. In the past Teclis tried to teach Boland how to wield High Magic, Windherding is not the same, but it's close enough to be impressive I think.
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We just need to get REALLY good at it and get 7 other magistars who will work with us... Maybe each of us makes a spell using our respective wind that lets us semi-mind meld so we all act in coordination and make things posible...

Then we each hold one of our respective powerstones.

"Aqshy!"
"Azyr!"
"Chamon!'
"Ghur!"
"Ghyran!"
"Hysh!"
"Shyish!"
"Ulgu!"

"By your powers combined, I am CAPTAIN QHAYSH!"

Teclis - Amazing. It's like watching monkeys collectively working out how to do algebra.
 
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Fouredged Sword said:
While we absolutely inherited that one the person we inherited it from isn't the rightful owner. We are the latest hand in a long running multigenerational heist version of keep away where we are ensuring that book STAYS stolen from it's rightful owner.
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Its rightful owner of Frederick Van Hal, Abelhelm's ancestor? It's his diary after all.
 
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