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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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GrimTheMad said:
Probably not, though. We're only going to be there for three months. If the Druchii could launch Ulthuan-threatening-invasions often enough that one was even plausibly going to happen while we're there then Ulthuan probably wouldn't exist anymore.

It'll almost certainly just be the standard small scale skirmishes that never really end.
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On the other hand, if just the right die lands on a one…

It's in Ranald's hands either way I suppose.
 
Blackout said:
Finubar is not Caledor II, no, but he still has to deal with the internal politics and pressures of Ulthuan. It might narrow the range of responses down from "sparking another War of Vengeance", but "refuse to give you these ultra-valuable codes" is quite possible.
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So basically your argument is that Finubar, upon seeing an opportunity to spoke the wheels of his ancestral enemies and improve his influence and relationships with the human realms—which has pretty much been one of his core policies since being crowned—might instead choose to reject the deal we're offering? Because he's not 100% rational and as such might choose to take offence over the whole thing?
 
SITB said:
Cadaeth didn't even know that Drycha was evil, assuming that Queen Marrisith accurately gauged Asuri politics despite the Eonir being so ignorant of the world seems suspect to me.
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Admittedly, Marrisith has access to people who either used to perform diplomacy with Ulthuan or lived in Ulthuan for some time before being banished to Laurelorn. This assorted knowledge is almost certainly outdated given everything, but it'd still be more than anything anyone at all in Laurelorn would have on Athel Loren, which made a far sharper swerve into isolationism than they ever did.
 
By same nature, most of those people would have last really dealt with an Ulthuan in it's golden age, and Ulthuan(Golden age) in full war mode. Doesn't quite compared to current Ulthuan.
 
Blackout said:
And as mentioned previously, Marrisith is in a different negotiating position than us, and may be willing to take risks that are not palatable to at least parts of the voterbase.
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I mean it's not much of a risk if the diplomacy experts say "they're talking to the Druuchi? Ulthuan will definitely show up shortly for their own diplomacy." It's apparently extremely clear-cut and predictable in-universe.
 
Sa'kage said:
By same nature, most of those people would have last really dealt with an Ulthuan in it's golden age, and Ulthuan(Golden age) in full war mode. Doesn't quite compared to current Ulthuan.
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I literally just acknowledged it would be outdated knowledge, all I'm saying is that that's still more than Laurelorn would have compared to Athel fucking Loren, geez.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
So basically your argument is that Finubar, upon seeing an opportunity to spoke the wheels of his ancestral enemies and improve his influence and relationships with the human realms—which has pretty much been one of his core policies since being crowned—might instead choose to reject the deal we're offering? Because he's not 100% rational and as such might choose to take offence over the whole thing?
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No, my argument is that Finubar might not respond favorably to being extorted for incredibly valuable classified information by some primitive humans with the threat of instead going to the ancestral enemies of his people, who have invaded and attempted to destroy his realm during his reign, and who murdered his wife and killed his youngest son.
 
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In an attempt to steer the conversation in an entirely new direction, here is an argument for the recruitment of a celestial wizard, pherhaps of the damsel variety :

If riverbeds and the "idea" of a river being here and flowing in a specific direction is enough to create a flow of magic, wouldn't it be possible to do the same with local winds/climates? Valleys funnel winds as effectively as riverbeds and on a wider scale we can observe, on earth, recurring or even permanent wind currents. Historically winds were even associated and given names acording to cardinal directions, wich could play well with the waystone grid.
 
fictionfan said:
Can you imagine just how much spam mail Teclis receives?
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Surely he'll have some way to filter spam from the actually important messages. The Project has more than enough influence to get the Emperor, or Marrisith, or Belegar, or Kislev, or all of them, to put their seal in the letter, and they're important enough people that even Teclis would at least give it a look instead of discarding it outright.
 
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Jeopardizer said:
In an attempt to steer the conversation in an entirely new direction, here is an argument for the recruitment of a celestial wizard, pherhaps of the damsel variety :

If riverbeds and the "idea" of a river being here and flowing in a specific direction is enough to create a flow of magic, wouldn't it be possible to do the same with local winds/climates? Valleys funnel winds as effectively as riverbeds and on a wider scale we can observe, on earth, recurring or even permanent wind currents. Historically winds were even associated and given names acording to cardinal directions, wich could play well with the waystone grid.
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That'd probably require an Airborne transmission method?

Seems unsafe.

Blackout said:
Yes. Admittedly I'm not 100% sure if Bel-Alhor's death has happened yet in-universe.
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I don't think it would have? I don't think Yrellian was out there for decades.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
So basically your argument is that Finubar, upon seeing an opportunity to spoke the wheels of his ancestral enemies and improve his influence and relationships with the human realms—which has pretty much been one of his core policies since being crowned—might instead choose to reject the deal we're offering? Because he's not 100% rational and as such might choose to take offence over the whole thing?
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You seem to be working off the base premise that the high elves see the Empire as equals, they do not. The Empire only started being a started being a state and not... what's the technical term? A hot mess, 180 years ago, which in elven terms is the equivalent of a fey years ago. the idea that this most recent parcel of barbarians is pretending to be a peer would be comical if not for the alarming notion that it might be working with in thrall to the Druchi.
 
Jeopardizer said:
In an attempt to steer the conversation in an entirely new direction, here is an argument for the recruitment of a celestial wizard, pherhaps of the damsel variety :

If riverbeds and the "idea" of a river being here and flowing in a specific direction is enough to create a flow of magic, wouldn't it be possible to do the same with local winds/climates? Valleys funnel winds as effectively as riverbeds and on a wider scale we can observe, on earth, recurring or even permanent wind currents. Historically winds were even associated and given names acording to cardinal directions, wich could play well with the waystone grid.
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Transmission via air is one of our available leyline methods to investigate, but it was described as inefficient, and I'm not sure that the new recruit could provide a more efficient way of doing so than Sarvoi and Hatalath.
 
ReImagined said:
Transmission via air is one of our available leyline methods to investigate, but it was described as inefficient, and I'm not sure that the new recruit could provide a more efficient way of doing so than Sarvoi and Hatalath.
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Absolutely no offense meant, but litteraly every human we asked managed to come up with a more efficient solution to river leylines than what Sarvoi, Hatalath and a handful of other grey lords had.
 
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Mopman43 said:
According to the wiki 8th edition Vampire Counts dates it to 2522, I can check to confirm in an hour or so.
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So it does.
c.2522
Nyklaus von Carstein, tired at the the infighting of his peers, uses shadow magic to translocate his entire castle into the fabled nautical realm of the Galleon's Graveyard. There he becomes Count Noctilus, terror of the seas and commander of the fabled Dreadfleet. He is hunted down and killed in his lair by a confederation of pirate lords led by the vengeful Captain Roth.
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You learn something new every day.
 
Jeopardizer said:
Absolutely no offense meant, but litteraly every human we asked managed to come up with a more efficient solution to river leylines than what Sarvoi, Hatalath and a handful of other grey lords managed.
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Hatalath and the grey lords didn't actually work on the river leylines! They got upstaged by Thorek instead while working on the capstone.

(I made the same mistake before).
 
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