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Imagine the heckling from Regimand, though. And Panoramia. And wizards in general, really. Endless ammunition to poke fun at her with!
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I think recodification would have to be in order.
Given that Apparitions are bound to a wizard's soul using the wizard as a template for their appearance seems very plausible.
Romv
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Does this also apply to the Seviroscope vote?
I'd still like to go for visual, by the way.
The original question was about the Seviroscope vote, so yes.
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It would be pretty bad if some grey wizard misscasted and there was suddenly Mathilde going on a rampage against everything.
The Dämmerlichtreiter form is more what I originally had in mind, but I actually really like the Winged Lancers idea. Apparitions are manifestations of fear and the deal with Winged Lancers is that the sound they make inspires fear in their foes, that would be a nice thematic fit even if we didn't know that the fear effect is quasi-magical. Add the fact that they're from Kislev, and Mathilde fought alongside them and works with a Kislevite spirit binder, and you have enough clues for any Grey Wizard who's curious about the origins of the spell to reach a wrong conclusion that'll make them feel clever.
Romv
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Whoops, got a wire crossed there.
Good enough for me.
People already suggested Mathilde herself, but here is another idea:
[ ] Peasant on unassuming Horse
Like the generic empire knight but easier to underestimate and more plausible to randomly be in an area.
I wonder whether modeling it on a certain prominent Grey Mage who successfully faked their own death would enhance or hurt their shenanigans.
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To an extent
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[X] [RIDER] Mathilde on a Shadowsteed
[X] [RIDER] Knight
-[X] Conventional Empire (Mathilde's Heraldry)
[X] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter
[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual
The default form can be Mathilde's but I assume that other wizards could impress their own mental image into the spell themselves. Therefore it could be both decoy and Dämmerlichtreiter tulpa.
[X] [RIDER] Knight
-[X] Conventional Empire (Mathilde's Heraldry)
[X] [RIDER] The Dämmerlichtreiter
[X] [SEVIROSCOPE] Visual
The default form can be Mathilde's but I assume that other wizards could impress their own mental image into the spell themselves. Therefore it could be both decoy and Dämmerlichtreiter tulpa.
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I'm a bit confused as I don't have clear images in my head, just to clarify, is the Nazgul/Hex Wraith aesthetic significantly different from the Dämmerlichtreiter aesthetic?
And would the Dämmerlichtreiter aesthetic be like 'Very obviously Mathilde's build/face' or would it be something much more indistinct? I think if Grey Wizards went around summoning Mathildes in the future, it would get weird. In a disturbing way.
And would the Dämmerlichtreiter aesthetic be like 'Very obviously Mathilde's build/face' or would it be something much more indistinct? I think if Grey Wizards went around summoning Mathildes in the future, it would get weird. In a disturbing way.
I'd be in favour of the spell summons a 'copy of caster on a shadowsteed' rather than 'copy of Mathilde on shadowsteed'
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Not wanting to quibble; but I think the Red Rider's horse head can breathe out clouds of smoke, so it could posinot look like a breath weapon. I wonder if that can be reskinned to produce other effects.
For the Mathilde Rider; for the example, some how integrating her Cloud of Confusion Mastery so it the Rider is effectively able to cast that spell via the reskinned smoke.
Another potential advantage of the Mathilde Rider is that I can see it being easier to teach it her sword style if she ever develops a Shadow Sword spell and integrates it into the Roder manifestation.
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The cultural fear effect would certainly feed itself.
"Kislevites charged our left flank!"
"…what Kislevites?! The Legion is two provinces away, no Kislevites were listed among their forces!"
And then people are telling stories around fires that Winged Lancers can appear out of fog to turn your flank.
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They put the 'murder' in 'murderpuppies' after all
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I do have to say I really like the idea of the bound Rider taking on the form of its binder on a shadowsteed and with a heavy weapon. It's a bit less thematic to the Dämmerlichtreiter, but I think it can instead be tied to Ulgu's inherent nature as a wind of confusion and uncertainty by being a quite direct spell of misdirection. Maybe make it a little bit smokey, so you can't make out details when it's at a charge, but otherwise recognisable as the wielder so that it can be used in charges and leave unsuspecting enemies chasing after it, not realising that the real wizard snuck in during the confusion. Certainly, in some cases it might not be worth ensuring everyone knows a wizard of some description is around, but at a certain point refuge in audacity is a very workable plan!
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Can we make each of the bound apparitions look different but keeping to a central theme? I'd prefer something like "Assorted Witch Hunter hat-wearing figures on horses" that just so happens to have a shadowy Mathilde among them.
...and maybe Abelhelm too.
...and maybe Abelhelm too.
Romv
A Memory of TREES
The Default Drunkard is one of the most feared opponents on Mallus.
Though that's a bit too demonic
Nazgul/Hexwraith/Mounted Wraiths would have hoods and cloaks and no visible faces. Dämmerlichtreiter is robes and a Witch Hunter hat.
It'd definitely be her.
If Dragon was chosen Mathilde would definitely utilize that to add to the look.
You could have a generic template of 'Mounted Witch Hunter' where each one looks like nobody in particular, but you couldn't have Mathilde among them without spending another action on creating an alternate skin.
Yeah, i think that this is the biggest issue with the Kage Bunshin option. Apparitionbinding is battle magic tier dificulty so there is always a chance to miscast, and a miscast might result in the army we fight alongside thinking that Mathilde has gone rogue or mad, turning them against us. It's not the worst or most likely thing to happen, but it would be worse than a regular miscast of its magnitude.
Also, I don't think anyone guessed this. Makes sense though.
Dwarven artisans likely have a good ear for metallic sounds, so with an explanation of what the clicks mean being provided by a wizard with the relevant form of windsight, I suspect that they could get a lot of use out of a purely audio seviroscope, while also providing a lot more general utility.
Said general utility is also good for dwarves, too, if for example a throng has to go through spooky territory.
Maybe the audio version won't be enough to crack the secrets behind the construction of the runed elemental golem, but if Kragg ends needing something better he can be gifted something better at a later date.
Magical alarms can have incredible potential, depending on how widespread this can get and the earlier something like that gets circulated the better. Build wide before going tall applies.
Also, all of my yes to Doppelmathilde on a Shadowsteed.
Said general utility is also good for dwarves, too, if for example a throng has to go through spooky territory.
Maybe the audio version won't be enough to crack the secrets behind the construction of the runed elemental golem, but if Kragg ends needing something better he can be gifted something better at a later date.
Magical alarms can have incredible potential, depending on how widespread this can get and the earlier something like that gets circulated the better. Build wide before going tall applies.
Also, all of my yes to Doppelmathilde on a Shadowsteed.