Mopman43
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Only in 4e I think, not in-quest.
Only in 4e I think, not in-quest.
We could sell our magic acorn to the Eonir just to see their eyes bug out at the idea of growing their own oak of ages.
Unfortunately these come from WFRP 4th edition, which came out after Divided Loyalties had already begun.the College has Asur on its staff, if not it's faculty. It's mentioned somewhere that having an elf tutor for noble children is very popular in certain circles. All that points to Ulthuan/Empire trade happening.
I wonder if writing vampire romances gets you burned as a lahmian plant? It probably would get you shanked by any stirlanders that found out.
Vampire romances are actually rather popular in canon.Most people think a vampire is a kind of demon that inhabits corpses so yeah the cults will burn you if they get yo you, but they probably won't because your neighbors will get you first.
IIRC we've been told it doesn't really translate to Ulgu manipulation, which is the reason we care about mists.I'm sad Ladrielle isn't having more votes. Honestly with her being the Goddess of the Mists I'd have guessed she'd have been more popular.
We don't have connections in Lothern.Pretty sure a KAU action could be used to buy books in Lothern.
Sounds like it's *definitely* a lahmian plot to make people more okay with being seduced by sexy vampire ladies.Vampire romances are actually rather popular in canon.
Lot of playwrights that write those sort of stories.
(And if they're working for vampires they're playwights)
I mean, yes, psyops to make people think vampires aren't actually scary, and are very cool and mysterious and intriguing you guys, is canonically something they engage in. Right alongside manipulating the Cults of the Old World into fighting with each other so that when Neferata makes her move (which is totally going to happen any day now, ignore that she's spent four thousand years lounging with a bunch of cats) humanity won't have any of those pesky holy powers or other supernatural idols to oppose them.Sounds like it's *definitely* a lahmian plot to make people more okay with being seduced by sexy vampire ladies.
IIRC we've been told it doesn't really translate to Ulgu manipulation, which is the reason we care about mists.
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"What?"
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"What."
Marienburg doesn't have exclusive rights to Elven trade, it has exclusive rights to be the port in the Old World where Ulthuan trades. Even setting aside the fact that the Asur seem to ignore that anyway (they have a whole district in Erengrad), the treaty doesn't cover people travelling to Lothern to trade, and the Empire does have other ports. Marienburg probably slaps a hefty tarriff on bringing in goods from Lothern, but they can't really stop it. Especially as the reason Lothern is such a powerful trading port is that you can find stuff from all over the world there, which means it's hard to prove someone bought something in Lothern and not elsewhere.
I also think the Ithilmar action is sketchy vow wise because the Eonir are potential enemies of the empire and we would be arming them for profit.
The problem I see with this assertion is that it might be right on what's written in the contract... But we also know that they do keep to It with regard to the empire. We can not buy books from the asur without either going through lothern or Marienburg, this has been made clear to us and books are definitely not a lustrian exclusive. So even if they don't have to the Asur do hold to not selling to the empire.It doesn't even have that. The treaty says Marienberg has exclusive rights to be the only port that the High Elves trade goods from the New World with the Old World.
That means stuff from Lustria and Naggaroth, as there's no way that the high elves would call their own lands the New World, and the Far East, Araby, and the Southlands aren't the New World either.
About the Vow of Poverty specifically, yes. There are, however, other things to be concerned about.Hasn't Boney repeatedly said that if Mathilde isn't concerned, we don't need to be?
This, however, I have found no source for. Here is every comment Boney has made involving ithilmar since this option became available.And also clarified that the Ithilimar trade isn't really a meaningful increase in the Eonir's military power?
"would likely draw a lot of attention" is a little alarming, especially since we know tensions are high (cf the growing schism in the Cult of Ulric).The first answer you stumble across is one of the most obvious: Ithilmar, the sky-silver of Ulthuan, found only in the occasional eruptions from the volcano of Vaul's Anvil in Caledor. Light as silk and hard as steel, it allows the lightest and most delicate of weapons to retain an edge throughout an entire battle, and for the swiftest and most graceful of warriors to be armoured without encumberment. It is often described as priceless, but that is because the ones doing the describing are the sort of adventurers and mercenaries who come away with that impression after finding themselves unable to acquire it at the local blacksmith. Pieces of it do circulate throughout the Empire, either sold through Marienburg, dug up from former Elven settlements, or acquired from unscrupulous traders who barter with the Norscans or the Fire Dwarves for their plunder, and though the price asked for them is always exorbitant, the price that Laurelorn would pay to acquire some more would be greater still, as the amount available to them has only dwindled since they were cut off from Ulthuan. This would require a huge amount of liquid capital to act upon and would likely draw a lot of attention as astronomic offers are made for various items within private collections, but would greatly enrich whoever is first to act upon the opportunity.
@Boney how much are we talking about for huge amount of capital to buy Ithilmar? A estimate if you can please?
Also, on the topic of only Caledor producing Ithilmar. I'm pretty sure I've seen and internalised that piece of lore before, but I'm also mildly certain that it wasn't from an Army Book. I want to say that piece of lore comes from a novel? Although I haven't read every part of every Asur army book and internalised it, so I could have missed it. I am not an expert on Asur lore. I frankly find them a bit boring.
Ithilmar? Surely you mean the bones and scales of the dragon Taal killed at the site of what would become Talabheim, which was absolutely never inhabited by any other people before it was discovered by Taal's chosen, so there's no other explanation for why farmers inside the Taalbaston keep finding it. I don't really see a reason why Elves would be especially interested in it.
You're going to want a trip hammer or something to save your arms, but yes, that's just how physics works. When the canon materials say that only Elves know how to work Ithilmar and only Dwarves know how to work Gromril, the actual meaning is something like that they're the only ones that can get useful and reliable results on anything like a practical timescale, they're not saying that the materials are completely immutable in the hands of any other race.
Caledor is centered around the Dragonspine Mountains, the caverns under which are filled with ores and dragons, and Vaul's Anvil, the world's only source of Ithilmar. They leave raw acreage of arable land to the likes of Eataine and Ellyrion.
None of these are really relevant to the question of whether this would meaningfully increase the Eonir's military capabilities, or whether (even more importantly) it would be perceived as increasing the Eonir's military capabilities. As I said before:Any Dwarven techniques to work Ithilmar that might have once existed have been lost. The only source of Ithilmar is on Ulthuan and the last time the two were on speaking terms was 4500 years ago, so there's been no way to keep that information alive in the Dwarven master-apprentice paradigm. You might be able to find someone willing to experiment with entirely new techniques to try to make something of them, or to try to recreate ancient techniques from only written sources and surviving examples, but that would be a process of centuries.
This feels to me like a case where the answer is going to be along the lines of "the potential risks of this action are the thread's job to evaluate" if we start pressing for details about the political fallout. In any case, I am reasonably confident no such WoQM already exists.Now, I still don't think it's a great idea, because I don't like how visible it is. I'm not worried about Mathilde personally getting in trouble with the Order for her vows, I'm worried about the EIC drawing heat as it makes a big public move; I feel like there are a lot of people who would take exception to that, especially Nordland. Making a ton of money by arbitraging rare magical materials to a neighbor polity with whom we are not in fact allied feels like the sort of thing that would provoke both mercantile and political backlash. But we really don't need to worry about the Bursar getting shirty with us over it.