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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Mount. Elements said:
People are saying that we shouldn't leave the money in the ground because it won't be invested, but what is Mathilde going to do with the money if she takes it? I don't think she has any new investments planned, and I doubt all of her current funds are invested. I'd rather either leave the money for the village in case of emergencies or find additional ways to invest in the village.
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Buy books with it, given that the money has only grown in the intern between our last visit and now while Mathilde's funds have shrunk I think it is fair to say that we are a lot more likely to spend it than they are.
 
Fief improvements
  • Maybe throw some coin on the road improvements/extension project? And some for wells or other sources of (relatively) clean water? Though both would fall under "General improvement" I guess.
  • I'm wondering what're the options on mitigating plague and disease here
  • It's not really necessary, but maybe we can put some funding for volunteer militia training
 
Tobtorp said:
Not really, they can count, that's not difficult. They can even record how much they have by use of tally sticks (sticks with notches in them) the do not need to be able to write shit down for herding.
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I know, otherwise it'd be a heck of a job trying to keep track of all the sheep.

Its more of an idea that might be of some use in other areas as well, for a potentially smallish investment of time.

DragonParadox said:
Buy books with it, given that the money has only grown in the intern between our last visit and now while Mathilde's funds have shrunk I think it is fair to say that we are a lot more likely to spend it than they are.
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We do have an insatiable appetite for books :p
 
Boney said:
The anatomy took some research, but the sheep herding section is a local issue with the plants and sheep species tweaked.
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Oh yeah. Hill sheep tends to wind up being bred for ability to eat just about anything.
Plains sheep trade a more delicate disposition for getting more per feed.

Not a hard rule, just how practicalities go
Boney said:
All the obvious improvements have already been made. The land in the area can't sustain horses, so it would be a constant expense to pay for food for it. It's downhill to Sonningwiese anyway, so you just fill up a handcart and get one of the local teenagers to help you move it in exchange for a silver coin and not telling their parents what they do with it in the big city.
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Maybe a mill, but everything else seems gated behind having a population large enough to break even on expenses?
 
Considering Mathilde's penchant for overkill I'm a bit surprised that there's no bring some Battle Mages to blast the ragwort.

Mount. Elements said:
People are saying that we shouldn't leave the money in the ground because it won't be invested, but what is Mathilde going to do with the money if she takes it? I don't think she has any new investments planned, and I doubt all of her current funds are invested. I'd rather either leave the money for the village in case of emergencies or find additional ways to invest in the village.
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Mathilde's endless money bag has grown quite skinny as of late due to personally outfitting WEBMAT.

It is good to have the option to throw in a lot of gold at something - be it shady stuff in a Chaos Dwarf bazar or more books. Generally it is a good idea to have a discretionary fund of sorts.
 
I'm totally on board with the Jade Wizard and some extra investment on top of that.

I'd make an argument for a mill, but conveniently, I can just quote Veekie.
veekie said:
On fief upgrades, I'm not sure why people seem to be fixated on the fort.

Wouldn't it make more sense to build a windmill?
-Millstones of good quality aren't cheap, and its fairly costly to plan the mechanics of a mill.
-It provides immediate benefit to the fief - grinding grain to flour by hand or animal power takes a lot of work, is slow and gives you often gritty flour, a good windmill can do the same trivially to produce good quality flour, though water is more reliable, its still a lot of saved work.
-It gives an additional reason for the people of the fief to gather, and that means its a good place to run other services from, if people with those skills show up.
-Basic upkeep can be performed locally and amounts to "don't let the wooden bits rot" and "clean the millstone between uses", though doing a full refurbishing could require a mechanic.
-It'd cast a gigantic rotating cross shaped shadow across the land.
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Mount. Elements said:
People are saying that we shouldn't leave the money in the ground because it won't be invested, but what is Mathilde going to do with the money if she takes it? I don't think she has any new investments planned, and I doubt all of her current funds are invested. I'd rather either leave the money for the village in case of emergencies or find additional ways to invest in the village.
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Research and books, probably. But we can leave a reasonable sum for emergencies and still take most of it, honestly. At this point it's well beyond an emergency reserve and into 'risks attracting bandits' territory.
 
If we take some of the money, which I think we should, we should be looking to spend most of it. How much do Library purchases cost? Laurelorn would be good for history and herbals. An open call for primers on Ind and Cathayan languages at K8P would be good too.
 
Yknow, it also occurs to me that having a windmill built to cast a giant cross-shaped shadow while we okay our Steward making a big gamble would probably mean something.
 
Asheram said:
The biggest issue seems to be the Ragwort, which should promptly be dealt with by any Jade that shows up.
On the Wagners, and their drinking out of the wrong spring, I'm half tempted to hire a dowser and a team to dig new wells in the area so that this issue could be avoided.
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It was a problem of laziness and obstinance, rather than desperation. There's perfectly good water available to them if they go a little bit further, which they are now doing.

Doomed Wombat said:
Because those are skills that could be useful to them in that profession. Though I admit I'm not sure how little numbering and writing they know, and I really don't want to go "ah they can't even count" cause that's stupid.

However, being able to count how many sheep they have exactly might be useful. Enough to make up for, say, part of saturday spent inside learning that.
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Shepherds don't need schooling to learn how to count sheep. Some of them use methods you couldn't learn in any school. You can generally trust in the competence of peasants at being peasants, because the incompetent ones die.

defenestrator said:
Fief improvements
Maybe throw some coin on the road improvements/extension project?
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That's a road on a provincial scale, it's something Roswita would be footing the bill for and Mathilde wouldn't be able to make a dent in.

defenestrator said:
And some for wells or other sources of (relatively) clean water? Though both would fall under "General improvement" I guess.
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The fief has a well.

defenestrator said:
I'm wondering what're the options on mitigating plague and disease here
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They're isolated and self-sufficient. Beyond that, all you can do is pray.

defenestrator said:
It's not really necessary, but maybe we can put some funding for volunteer militia training
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The average shepherd is more deadly with a sling than the average militia archer is with a bow.

veekie said:
Maybe a mill, but everything else seems gated behind having a population large enough to break even on expenses?
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What few grains get grown locally are threshed by putting them on the ground and driving the sheep over them.
 
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Imaninjah93 said:
I'm not too familiar with our fief's institutions for any kids that want to leave the farm, but maybe investing some of the extra funds I to a trust for any children wanting to learn their numbers and pursue a proper education to enrich their home doesn't sound terribly bad for an investment
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What you bring up is a good point. What we're doing with our improvements is rapidly extending the number of children who will live long enough to leave the home and start up their own farms.
We could leave money as a seed fund for children who want to take up a journeymanship in the town, or who want to clear land to start up other farms?
 
@Boney shouldn't Gretel get half of the credit for the Organ Vat? I noticed she isn't listed among the authors on the papers in the character sheet. And the organ-vat still appears under 'Pending Favours' on the character sheet.
 
Oh, and by the way, do we expect Greatsword books to help with our next swording action?

It helped with the last one, but not the ones before. It's dependent on which aspect we're training, but I don't actually recall which aspect we haven't done yet (and the specific reasons some had greatsword books applicable and some didn't).
 
mathymancer said:
@Boney shouldn't Gretel get half of the credit for the Organ Vat? I noticed she isn't listed among the authors on the papers in the character sheet. And the organ-vat still appears under 'Pending Favours' on the character sheet.
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If memory serves, Mathilde and Gretel divided up the spoils by item instead of splitting each thing, and Gretel went for the cash. I'll dig back and double check that, though.

Edit: No, you're right.
-[*] VAT: Send to College and split
 
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Boney said:
Shepherds don't need schooling to learn how to count sheep. Some of them use methods you couldn't learn in any school. You can generally trust in the competence of peasants at being peasants, because the incompetent ones die.
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Once again weird things, going on with your quoting.

No big deal, but felt the need to point out since I think I said it.

Anyhow fair nuff.

Boney said:
If memory serves, Mathilde and Gretel divided up the spoils by item instead of splitting each thing, and Gretel went for the cash.
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IIRC she got the garnets which she sold to Barak Varr's jewel smiths who paid her very well for them due to lack of easy gem access which she reinvested in renting a tower in the Karak for a century, which now hosts businesses etc.

And silk sheets she also bought some of them.
 
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Given the part of the update about Mathilde arranging warnings through the EIC, we can at least be reasonably confident that the fief won't have been sacked while we weren't looking.
 
Boney said:
If memory serves, Mathilde and Gretel divided up the spoils by item instead of splitting each thing, and Gretel went for the cash. I'll dig back and double check that, though.
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I think I found the relevant post (thanks to pickel's history of our time as Loremaster):
Boney said:
-[*] VAT: Send to College and split
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Some items we claimed, some items Gretel claimed, but the Vat credit was spilt. It was also listed on the character sheet (split credit with Gretel).
EDIT: and the moment I post this I see you already saw that.
 
Boney said:
The average shepherd is more deadly with a sling than the average militia archer is with a bow.
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This makes me want to get them an emergency stash of sling deliverable Dwarven grenades. Probably immensely impractical on multiple levels(likely starting with an entire research cycle needed), but I still kinda wanna.
 
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Okay, I looked up our previous Branulhune training actions, and I suspect the next aspect(Hand switching) will not benefit from Greatsword books. The aspect that benefited(Guard Bypass) could be helped by books because they contained guards for us to study how to bypass.

I don't see how we can get anything from books for hand switching, though. So that probably dismisses the idea I had just now of maybe buying some more greatsword books from the Eonir and/or Bretonnia.
 
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