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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

I like the We, but I want a multicultural and multiracial staff that represents K8P, and the We excludes that possibility. I tolerate Cython, but I don't like them.

I'm kind of bummed that I didn't have the energy to make a reaction post for this update. I just didn't have the energy to do it yesterday. It's been so many pages since the update that I'm not sure anyone would read it, but I guess I can still give it a try today. I really did like the update.
 
Prime 2.0 said:
But for actually operating the library itself? He's a middleman, as far as I can tell. I'd love for him to be a patron, I certainly want him to have more screentime, but I've not seen much to pitch the idea that he'll be good at the actual job.
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Considering how they were able to learn a new language in a couple of hours, and are completely attuned to the wind of enlightenment. Even on purely the merits of their skills I think they'd do a solid job.
 
Codex said:
[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

I like the We, but I want a multicultural and multiracial staff that represents K8P, and the We excludes that possibility. I tolerate Cython, but I don't like them.

I'm kind of bummed that I didn't have the energy to make a reaction post for this update. I just didn't have the energy to do it yesterday. It's been so many pages since the update that I'm not sure anyone would read it, but I guess I can still give it a try today. I really did like the update.
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I would love to read it.
 
Parabola said:
I have this mental image of Ranald being flabbergasted that the dwarf soul he placed into a human as a laugh was actually a reincarnated Ulgu dragon's soul.
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Remember what Gunnars said at the wedding?
Boney said:
"Well, I speculate, but if they were able to communicate with your Ranald and put the question to Him, would He have given them a straight answer?"
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I'm picturing Ranald being stared down by a council of grumpy dwarfs that want to know if Mathilde's soul is human or dwarf and He's siting there like..

Haha.

You guys don't know shit.
 
Boney said:
They'd probably be considerably better off than any human librarian. There probably aren't a lot of memetic hazards built to find purchase on a distributed hivemind.
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Ah, the custom distro Linux defense against viruses - anyone who wants to try has to specifically engineer something for it, and if it gets to that point nothing is secure anyway...
 
Codex said:
[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

I like the We, but I want a multicultural and multiracial staff that represents K8P, and the We excludes that possibility. I tolerate Cython, but I don't like them.

I'm kind of bummed that I didn't have the energy to make a reaction post for this update. I just didn't have the energy to do it yesterday. It's been so many pages since the update that I'm not sure anyone would read it, but I guess I can still give it a try today. I really did like the update.
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[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

That's my reason to not vote We too; I don't want a library where it's impossible for there to be non-spider librarians. I'm currently not voting for Cython, but might change my mind later if it ends up close between Cython and the We.

Regarding this update, I'm a bit surprised that I haven't seen any comment on Dragomas saying that our discovery about Dhar might be trouble for creating new Waystones, at least in the Empire. It's a long way off still, and there may be ways around it, but I thought it deserved some consideration. If nothing else, it might mean that we turn out to be the ones who have effectively cheated our partners in House Tindomiel by not giving them what they signed up for.
 
LancyIain said:
[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

That's my reason to not vote We too; I don't want a library where it's impossible for there to be non-spider librarians. I'm currently not voting for Cython, but might change my mind later if it ends up close between Cython and the We.

Regarding this update, I'm a bit surprised that I haven't seen any comment on Dragomas saying that our discovery about Dhar might be trouble for creating new Waystones, at least in the Empire. It's a long way off still, and there may be ways around it, but I thought it deserved some consideration. If nothing else, it might mean that we turn out to be the ones who have effectively cheated our partners in House Tindomiel by not giving them what they signed up for.
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It'd be top classified Wizard business and he absolutely can have select people read in on enough to work on it, if we didn't just outsource the Dhar to elves
 
veekie said:
Ah, the custom distro Linux defense against viruses - anyone who wants to try has to specifically engineer something for it, and if it gets to that point nothing is secure anyway...
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I think it's more "no one does hazards for hiveminds" rather than "you need a hazard tailored to the We specifically" though. Still a good defence, but not quite as specialised as you're suggesting.
 
So, random thought, and definitely one that probably won't come to fruition for a while, but… We can, theoretically, make a full set of Orbs of Sorcery. Things that can power the biggest baddest kinds of Battlemagic enchantments in each Wind. A good enchanter could make pretty good use of just one. Mathilde… isn't just a good enchanter, and she wouldn't have just one in a batch. We're not just uniquely suited to making these things, we're also uniquely suited to using them.

Anyone want to take a stab at theorizing Windherded Battle Altars, Orbs included? Because right now I'm kinda imagining a flying death ray with Pit of Shades carpet bombing and flamethrowers to protect against other flyers. You know, once Mathilde gets both her Enchanting and Windherding skills high enough.
 
LancyIain said:
[X] Locals
[X] Cult of Verena

That's my reason to not vote We too; I don't want a library where it's impossible for there to be non-spider librarians. I'm currently not voting for Cython, but might change my mind later if it ends up close between Cython and the We.

Regarding this update, I'm a bit surprised that I haven't seen any comment on Dragomas saying that our discovery about Dhar might be trouble for creating new Waystones, at least in the Empire. It's a long way off still, and there may be ways around it, but I thought it deserved some consideration. If nothing else, it might mean that we turn out to be the ones who have effectively cheated our partners in House Tindomiel by not giving them what they signed up for.
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I think there is just very little to comment on.
Yeah, could be an issue if we don't find non dhar method.
Could mean no more new waystones, might mean new waystones are going to be done with super high security clearance and only with imperial dispensation, no way of knowing yet.
We gave them the rights to build any new waystones in the empire.
And that is what they get, if we can't get any new waystones, well, that was always a possibility.
Though i suspect having House Tindomiel doing the wind enchanting bit makes it more likely we can avoid the "no new waystones" bit.
No human wizard handling dhar, and elf wizards doing it only under extremely close scrutiny and with imperial dispensation for where and when to do it.
 
Dragonofelder said:
Also Also; How can we use Orbs of Sorcery to help with the Webway project?

It'd be a bit much to give every waystone an orb, but maybe major nexuses?
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The Project would have to proceed quite a bit to reach the point where it could be said with any confidence whether or not an Orb would even help a Waystone or Nexus.

Jyn Ryvia said:
@Boney if we got a dwarf to make a casting box, could we promote a certain shape in a Orb of Sorceries development (sort of like a square watermelon or 'casting a sword')

Because I would totally like a powerstone dais for the dragon throne.

(less memey, shape each of them into the symbols of the wind its made of (or at least close for the ones that have unconnected bits.)
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Mathilde knows that round Orbs work. She doesn't know whether other shapes do. She could try, but it would risk at least one of the Orbs and possibly endanger the others if the results are particularly bad.

flogoyog said:
The talk of having a We hive as librarian is giving me crazy ideas.
Do we know if the Doppelganger spell works on the We or does it take a more complex Illusion spell ?
Because having normal seeming librarians that are actually spiders under illusions sounds like the biggest Grey Wizard prank of all time.
We could even make it a Windhearding project to combine it with The Talking Beast Amber spell.
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This seems like it should be viable.

Ericwinter said:
I do have to ask, since I don't remember seeing it seriously answered. Is an Orb powered staff possible? Because I would honestly prefer a general use item over something specific like a Battle Altar. On the other hand, I get the sense that the Orbs generally need large scale enchantments for their full effectiveness?
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It's theoretically possible, but Mathilde would be blazing the trail herself since it hasn't been tried by College Wizards before.

picklepikkl said:
@Boney, just checking: I assume Orbs of Sorcery, and applications the Empire has made of them, would fall under the rare-book set for Power Stones rather than being its own category?
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Correct.

TaliesinSkye said:
It doesn't sound like the orbs can be used as ongoing power supplies. The options seem to be to use them all at once (which sounds Unwise) or to take advantage of their passive effects on nearby reality to amplify other spellcasting.
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Outside of a few edge scenarios like having to operate in a complete magical vacuum, the difference between 'provides power' and 'makes the available ambient power go a longer way' is academic.

StormySky said:
@Boney Is this really the case, with us being allowed discuss further contract conditions, or is Mathilde basically turning over ownership rights to the library and only keeping the right to make copying deals with other libraries and full access to all the material?
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Mathilde would make the spirit of the agreement very clear, in that the books would remain at least as much Mathilde's as they would be Cython's and there would be an expectation of at least some degree of reciprocity. She won't just leave the lot of them in a box on Cython's front porch like a box of abandoned puppies, free to a good home.

Ericwinter said:
Hey @Boney out of curiosity, how impossible would the Elves consider Mathilde making not just an Orb of Sorcery for our Wind, but one for every Wind? Would that be in the "puppy doing advanced math" area?
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It's impossible to say how they'd react without knowing how they make their ones.

StormySky said:
@Boney Since all the books have been moved to KAU, is Mathilde planning on emptying the personal library room and repurposing it for something else?
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It's currently acting as a spare room, Mathilde is spending most of her time away from K8P these days and there's nothing that immediately occurs to me that the room would come in handy to convert to.

Nurgle said:
I firmly believe the dawi will go through it trying to retake a hold . The more Av they have the less lives they have to loose retaking a hold.

@Boney have the dawi had to use the Av yet?
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Some has been used in the constant skirmishes of Dwarven life, but most of it remains and a fair bit is being earmarked for the upcoming reboot of the Silver Road Wars.

Thomasfoolery said:
How quickly other apparition remains evaporate (Or even if they actually do, I was just assuming there) isn't something we really know much about.
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At typical levels of background magic, it's usually a matter of minutes. If killed in or quickly transported to somewhere like the Colleges with high levels of magic it could be more like hours.

StormySky said:
@Boney According to Aksel, do the Hedgewise actually do this?
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Nordlander Hedgewise do.

Codex said:
I'm kind of bummed that I didn't have the energy to make a reaction post for this update. I just didn't have the energy to do it yesterday. It's been so many pages since the update that I'm not sure anyone would read it, but I guess I can still give it a try today. I really did like the update.
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I always greatly appreciate that sort of post.
 
Boney said:
The Project would have to proceed quite a bit to reach the point where it could be said with any confidence whether or not an Orb would even help a Waystone or Nexus.
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Well for one, it could probably be a good idea to have at least two orbs or at least Power Stones, of different Winds at the ends of each 'chain' of Waystones, just to make sure that there can never be an overflow of one single Wind in any one place- imagine if a Waystone was fed only Ulgu for years by sheer chance. So, you have an Ulgu and some other Orb in the structure, so you can guarantee the generation of at least a small amount of Dhar on demand, if need be. Two differing wind Orbs, because if you have only one, you might end up with an Ulgu Orb in a Waystone saturated with only Ulgu.
 
@Boney I'll actually tag you this time, but is there an exact number for how many Powerstones an Orb can make up for, or even just a range more specific than "a whole array"?
 
Boney said:
Outside of a few edge scenarios like having to operate in a complete magical vacuum, the difference between 'provides power' and 'makes the available ambient power go a longer way' is academic.
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I would have imagined the key difference being whether or not the orb is eventually discharged under regular use.
 
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