Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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No, that's why it is not official. It is most definitely normal. The two are not the same.
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It's still official, and also normal. Like people go over department heads all the time. Today and in medieval times. They are just named differently.
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Because that's not how soft power works.
Giving Orders we already have the support from a greater ability to mess with us doesn't give us their support - we already had that support! We spent AP and did favor trading to win that support already, it's done.
Telling them they need to let us study Dhar strictly weakens our bargaining position, and while we don't expect that to be an issue with Algard, Paranoth, or probably Feldmen, because they have little motive to mess with us, Alric has no reason not to squeeze us for whatever he can manage. Maybe that's musceling into the project and forcing us to deal with internal politics for the project itself on an ongoing basis, maybe it's just making our lives more difficult out of spite, it's probably not to send us a nice fruit basket and a promise of support for all the good work we're doing.
Increasing bureaucracy is not an end unto itself.
And for everyone who replied about how bypassing the traditional chain of command makes things less official, I agree? It is less official. I think that making things less official is as unproblematic as things get for a Grey LM, and I'm sort of confused why people think following the intent of the law (not become a Dhar-manic Black Magister) and the letter of the law (Imperial Dispensation) is a problem because we're not following even more letters of the law.
We're not getting scooped by the paparazzi and roasted in the tabloids, here. We don't need to defend our choice to talk to the Emperor in the court of public opinion. We have a choice between confining the secret to the Emperor, Empress, and Dragomas, or to every Magister Patriarch/Matriarch involved and Dragomas.
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So we can expect that the Alrics of the world won't find out that we went to the Emperor for dispensation unless something caused the issue to leak anyway, in which case I do not expect the fact that we went to the Emperor to be the most pressing concern.
"Skipping the paperwork with a direct order from the Emperor" is a precedent created by Dieter IV.
Do we really want that sort of reputation to stick to the project at this stage? Because I really don't.
No it isn't, it's been done for millennia before Dieter. Again, Feudalism. This is part of the system. Freaking Sigmar was already up to this shit back in the day. 'Skip your immediate superior and go to the Emperor' is one of the big selling points of having an Emperor for most nobles.
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First, I would like to mention that I absolutely loved the atmosphere in this update. Mathilde trying her very best to reconcile all these different perspectives into a usable framework, getting everyone in the same page, and creating a narrative that can draw in all the members. I think Boney did a great job in involving practically every one of the members in one way or another, and have Mathilde share a moment with the majority of them.
Whether it's Sarvoi's impromptu lecture, Hatalath's smug comments and thoughtful looks at Mathilde's rebuttals or answers, the smiles and rapport shared with Cadaeth, who she seems to get along with slightly better than the others, Tochter and Elrisse's deep knowledge of ancient frameworks regarding divergent cultures that form the basis of the Old World, Thorek's near constipated and uncomfortable look as he's forced to have his culture probed for the sake of science and having to deal with it for the greater good, Zlata's unsure position considering how outmatched she is on so many fronts by the others, Niedzwenka's complete and utter lack of tact or any sort of filter, and even Egrimm's occasional smart remark. The only character I would say has a lacking presence is Aksel, who doesn't really get anything aside from a nod at him during the Waystone Gold portion. Still, I greatly respect Boney for his very hard work trying to make a scene with 11 characters or so having a deep discussion work so well.
Also, I'm sure Mathilde has to remind herself that he's only short for an Elf to sooth her ego since I'm sure he's still taller than her.
In regards to the Hedgefolk being the Grey equivalent of the Druids, that may be true. Supposedly, Kurtis has been keeping the traditions of the Hedge alive within the Grey College and hiring from the Hedgefolk, and we know recently that Walther was also one of them, so they're probably a much quieter and more subtle version of the Druids. They don't go around flaunting their traditions, but I have a feeling more people than we think still practice Hedgefolk beliefs in the Grey College.
Still, Mathilde's concerns are super valid considering the people she's talking about. Hatalth is still being coy about a few things and Thorek is struggling really bad with the whole secrets thing. Mathilde's extensive experience with Dwarves really helps here.
Also, I find it funny how short and matter of fact her summary of the Elven part was. I think it's implied that each of these guys gave Mathilde a summary of their tradition in paper and Mathilde added it to her notes. Either the Eonir gave her next to nothing or the facts are so well known Mathilde decided to be brief here.
Also, this does raise a question. Snorri is Thungni and Smeidnir's brother, and yet he is not highly revered as an Ancestor God to the likes of them. Why is that?
Also, this is vital information. Apparently, the Scythian version of the tributaries are kurgans, which are essentially graves. Their tributaries are literally the graves of their great heroes/leaders, their Khans. Also, the metaphor here is interesting, because "the Eight fly free" implies that the Waystones release the Winds from the shackles of Chaos, and the following sentence "the Four ply us with tribute to see their will done" could mean either the Chaos Gods, or the Kislevite Pantheon. It doesn't escape me that following Liljiana's Pantheon, Widow, Ursun, Dazh and Tor total up to Four.
All of this is information we already knew, with perhaps one acception. This "Library of Caledor" which was destroyed during the Sundering. It's not exactly ringing any bells for me. I do know that Caledor was seriously ravaged by the Sundering though. There was a forest in there which had some of the best Starwood available, and it was the only forest that could supply the material that allowed for the creation of Dragonships. Now that it's burned down, the Asur can't make any more Dragonships. I suppose Caledor is really up there on the list of "Ulthuan's Fallen Kingdoms", but you could never guess it from their attitude. Prideful to the end.
Also, at first I genuinely tried to think of people with the names Max Mustermann, Chuj Gowies, Okri Okrisson, and Thananludwig thinking they were references until I realised they're supposed to "John Doe" equivalents. Felt dumb for a second there.
Also, hey a Cathayan Alchemist mention. Neat.
It makes a lot of sense that the Waystone Rune is directly descended from Old One. This is one rune that should not be altered with linguistic drift. It's probably the most optimal configuration/resonance with the Winds of Magic for this purpose.
As for the application of the Rune allowing for the nature of stone to be changed to be more conductive? That is curious. Something more has to go into it, because if not you could just carve the rune into anything to make it more conducive to the Winds. It's the same as being able to see Dwarf runes but if you don't know the process behind it you'll never be able to replicate them.
Waystone Gold seems to be this alloy? I'm not familiar with it, but the names in the wiki page match up with it. I find it interesting that Estalia calls it Kavzarian Bronze for two reasons. First being that Kavzar is the Dwarf name for Tylos, with Tylos being the traditional Tilean name for the city. The second being that they call it Kavzarian Bronze when they're relatively distant to the city's ruins. You would expect Tilea to call it something like that. Maybe the ruins of Kavzar contain this alloy?
The Elemental Compass is also an interesting concept and I'm happy to see it in DL. And yes, compass is an apt description of the Waystones movements.
It also makes sense why the Ice Witches are so geographically locked and what gives them so much power over the land. It's honestly very impressive that they managed to redirect the waystones into a loop and create a closed circuit and maintain that for hundreds of years all things considered.
Mathilde thinking of turning the Empire into a closed circuit is certainly funny. Leave it to Mathilde to instantly take the information and think of how she could work with it.
Second, I think it's a very funny worldbuilding tidbit that Bugman's Brewery is a nexus and that explains why their beer is so damn good, instead of it being just some sort of family secret. Bugman's Brew is practically a magic item in Warhammer, so honestly it makes sense.
Also, why Gisoreux to Parravon? Montfort is just skipped?
Yeah no. No way we're backing down on the very first roadblock after all we've gone through.
Whether it's Sarvoi's impromptu lecture, Hatalath's smug comments and thoughtful looks at Mathilde's rebuttals or answers, the smiles and rapport shared with Cadaeth, who she seems to get along with slightly better than the others, Tochter and Elrisse's deep knowledge of ancient frameworks regarding divergent cultures that form the basis of the Old World, Thorek's near constipated and uncomfortable look as he's forced to have his culture probed for the sake of science and having to deal with it for the greater good, Zlata's unsure position considering how outmatched she is on so many fronts by the others, Niedzwenka's complete and utter lack of tact or any sort of filter, and even Egrimm's occasional smart remark. The only character I would say has a lacking presence is Aksel, who doesn't really get anything aside from a nod at him during the Waystone Gold portion. Still, I greatly respect Boney for his very hard work trying to make a scene with 11 characters or so having a deep discussion work so well.
If we manage to create a closed vortex in the Empire like Kislev has for themselves, I'm sure we can get away with a couple Hekarti reliefs. It's not that bad of a price for the reward.
Magic sexual old man who likes elfsplaining. Sounds like a doozy.
Also, I'm sure Mathilde has to remind herself that he's only short for an Elf to sooth her ego since I'm sure he's still taller than her.
Aksel is a pretty big deal huh? Should be expected if he's in charge of a large stretch of the Forest of Shadows when it comes to the Hedgewise. Lectors are like two steps down from Grand Theogonist if I remember correctly (Lector to Arch Lector to Grand Theogonist).
In regards to the Hedgefolk being the Grey equivalent of the Druids, that may be true. Supposedly, Kurtis has been keeping the traditions of the Hedge alive within the Grey College and hiring from the Hedgefolk, and we know recently that Walther was also one of them, so they're probably a much quieter and more subtle version of the Druids. They don't go around flaunting their traditions, but I have a feeling more people than we think still practice Hedgefolk beliefs in the Grey College.
Thorek is older than Sarvoi and Cadaeth? I suppose it makes sense for Cadaeth since she gives me serious youthful vibes, but Thorek is, like, 350 years old or something, so a guy like Sarvoi seems like he could be older. Then again, Elf age is confusing. I don't think any source whatsoever goes in depth on Elven life stages and lifespans like Dwarf sources do.
Still, Mathilde's concerns are super valid considering the people she's talking about. Hatalth is still being coy about a few things and Thorek is struggling really bad with the whole secrets thing. Mathilde's extensive experience with Dwarves really helps here.
Man, Thorek must feel lonely being the only Dwarf here. Or, if he's willing to view it that way, he could see Mathilde as a Dwarf to give him comfort. Then it becomes six humans, three Elves and two Dwarves.
Also, I find it funny how short and matter of fact her summary of the Elven part was. I think it's implied that each of these guys gave Mathilde a summary of their tradition in paper and Mathilde added it to her notes. Either the Eonir gave her next to nothing or the facts are so well known Mathilde decided to be brief here.
I think this is funny. It's clear that Mathilde decided to keep Thorek's wording to butter him up and keep him satisfied, because he's still very apprehensive about this. I suppose Mathilde considered that the Elves wouldn't take much offence to this description of the events. Might be that they see this as clear flattery, or they don't have much fondness for the history of the Asur even if they were once one of them.
Also, this does raise a question. Snorri is Thungni and Smeidnir's brother, and yet he is not highly revered as an Ancestor God to the likes of them. Why is that?
This matches with what I know of the Belthani inscriptions available in Tome of Salvation. I don't ever remember a Green Man in canon, but he was mentioned before by Panoramia in her musings on the religous conflicts of the Jade Order. I'm pretty sure the Belthani are the people of Albion who settled on the mainland, because that's a thing. Not everyone from Albion stayed in Albion. The use of the word Ogham is pretty indicative of a connection here.
I assume that Mathilde made a bunch of background rolls to deal with the diplomacy here, and she might have flubbed it here. I think Elrisse is the only one who looked openly dissatisfied with the way her tradition was described.
This is incredibly fascinating, and probably expanding on Boney's custom Kurgan lore, which served as the predecessor to the Gospodar. Apparently, the Gospodar used to follow the Kurgan traditions of One-Two-Four-Eight before they decided the Winds were too volatile and left for the Ancient Widow or the Spirits. In here, I assume "those who brought the One" are the Old Ones, because they dragged the Sun (which is the One) closer to the planet. Green of Two is Morrisleb, and the birth blood described the formation of the moon when the polar gates collapsed. The idea of the "Four shackling the EIght" is clearly a metaphor for Chaos's coming flooding the world with the Winds of Magic.
Also, this is vital information. Apparently, the Scythian version of the tributaries are kurgans, which are essentially graves. Their tributaries are literally the graves of their great heroes/leaders, their Khans. Also, the metaphor here is interesting, because "the Eight fly free" implies that the Waystones release the Winds from the shackles of Chaos, and the following sentence "the Four ply us with tribute to see their will done" could mean either the Chaos Gods, or the Kislevite Pantheon. It doesn't escape me that following Liljiana's Pantheon, Widow, Ursun, Dazh and Tor total up to Four.
First off, I note that Mathilde use "War of the Ancients", which is the neutral human way of referring to the War of Vengeance/Beard. Clearly not trying to agitate anyone unnecessarily. Secondly, I note that Mathilde is not exactly mentioning the continued persecution of the Hedgewise for obvious reasons. She can't exactly go into detail about the illegal group of mages being hunted down while she's pretending he's just a Cultist of Haletha.
All of this is information we already knew, with perhaps one acception. This "Library of Caledor" which was destroyed during the Sundering. It's not exactly ringing any bells for me. I do know that Caledor was seriously ravaged by the Sundering though. There was a forest in there which had some of the best Starwood available, and it was the only forest that could supply the material that allowed for the creation of Dragonships. Now that it's burned down, the Asur can't make any more Dragonships. I suppose Caledor is really up there on the list of "Ulthuan's Fallen Kingdoms", but you could never guess it from their attitude. Prideful to the end.
Mathilde's inspiring speech skills are acceptable. I don't think she's quite at the level of rousing the hearts of men and elves into desperate battle like an Aragorn figure or something, but considering where she started, this is an achievement.
Also, at first I genuinely tried to think of people with the names Max Mustermann, Chuj Gowies, Okri Okrisson, and Thananludwig thinking they were references until I realised they're supposed to "John Doe" equivalents. Felt dumb for a second there.
I feel bad for Mathilde. I'll give her a standing ovation. She deserves it.
This is neat. It's good to see that language won't be a huge barrier to understanding, even with all the disparate traditions being brought to the table. And of course, the ever present Hysh and stone discussion. Definitely one of the more confusing things to pin down there, so it's amusing to see people arguing about it in universe. Random debates between magic users over semantics or specifics makes me think they're not so different from us after all.
Ice Witches, Hag Witches, Hedgefolk, Runesmiths. None of them touch the winds directly, so we lucked out there.
Also, hey a Cathayan Alchemist mention. Neat.
I'm very glad we decided to do a very in depth look at a Waystone before we did this action. It makes us look far more prepared and organised than we actually are. I think things would have been a little more complicated otherwise as we try to figure out where to start, so having a good baseline to work with and the basics ironed out is important.
It makes a lot of sense that the Waystone Rune is directly descended from Old One. This is one rune that should not be altered with linguistic drift. It's probably the most optimal configuration/resonance with the Winds of Magic for this purpose.
That's the exact phrasing that Deathfang used. Mathilde flexing that one story Deathfang told her any chance she gets. I suppose that mention got Hatalath to start thinking. I suppose it's not common knowledge that they used Silver Ships? Or maybe he's thoughtful about something else.
I suppose Nehekharan tributaries/waystones are known as Obelisks. I wonder why Zlata and Niedzwenka went silent. Do they know something and they're staying mum, or do they have nothing to add? I assume the Scythians had their own language and means of identifying the rune.
Not all parts of the Geomantic Web possess the "Waystone" rune, which makes sense. The Geomantic Web wasn't exactly made with the purpose to be a Waystone per se, so there would likely be many different variations on the concept based on whatever the Old Ones needed from the Web.
As for the application of the Rune allowing for the nature of stone to be changed to be more conductive? That is curious. Something more has to go into it, because if not you could just carve the rune into anything to make it more conducive to the Winds. It's the same as being able to see Dwarf runes but if you don't know the process behind it you'll never be able to replicate them.
Yeah, this must feel actually painful for Thorek. I can't imagine we'll be able to get much out of him if it means we could reverse engineer Runesmithing, but I have a feeling the conduction part is pretty vital for making much better Waystones.
Could this gold material be similar to whatever Johann's new claw is made of? That was also some sort of Gold alloy that could conduct magic, but it had specific properties allowing for conduction of Hysh and rejection of all else by having two different materials. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Lizardmen's obsession with gold. I mean, part of the reason they carve things into gold is because it's resistant to weathering, but maybe there's something else behind it. Gold seems to have some sort of heavy resonance with the Winds. It holds importance to many cultures in ways both mundane and mystical (from Nehekharan gold to Lizardmen gold to Dwarven gold greed).
Waystone Gold seems to be this alloy? I'm not familiar with it, but the names in the wiki page match up with it. I find it interesting that Estalia calls it Kavzarian Bronze for two reasons. First being that Kavzar is the Dwarf name for Tylos, with Tylos being the traditional Tilean name for the city. The second being that they call it Kavzarian Bronze when they're relatively distant to the city's ruins. You would expect Tilea to call it something like that. Maybe the ruins of Kavzar contain this alloy?
This is very interesting worldbuilding. There's very little mentioned of the actual construction of the pyramids of Nehekhara and their Waystone equivalents, so it's nice to see Boney expanding on it so thoroughly through the lens of the Light Order.
I suppose Gate of Cosmic Order is referencing Rta? Hinduism has lots of interesting concepts, but I haven't had the time to delve super deeply into them. There's way too much material to consume in any sort of reasonable time frame.
The Elemental Compass is also an interesting concept and I'm happy to see it in DL. And yes, compass is an apt description of the Waystones movements.
I suppose the Tower of Se-Athil is maintained for a particular reason, that being that it is a vital nexus. Probably one of the most important jobs of the Ward of Storms. Also, Mathilde seems to theorise that Salzenmund has some sort of Waystone flow? I can't remember it being an Elven city formerly, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a Waystone.
Yet again she gives Hatalath something to think about. She must be quite proud of herself. I'm still relieved we took that Waystone action laast turn.
So, if I'm getting this right, then Dhar is practically essential for the running of the Waystones. How ironic that Dhar is vital for the process of getting rid of itself. I wonder if that has anything to do with why Mathilde couldn't sense the Dhar when it entered the Waystone. It instantly gets to work on the process of moving energy across the leylines.
That's a pretty startling discovery, to find out that the very thing keepin the world alive is what the Articles says is grounds for immediate execution. It's a good thing Mathilde is used to screaming on the inside while maintaining a cool exterior.
I suppose Middenheim isn't a primary nexus of the Imperial network? It would be the only major city (Nuln, Altdorf, Talabheim, Middenheim) of the Empire not to be one if that was the case.
I feel bad for Zlata. She really isn't cut out for verbal sparring with Niedzwenka. You need a babushka to deal with another babushka. Still, it's better that the air is cleared early on rather than having the question hanging in the air.
It also makes sense why the Ice Witches are so geographically locked and what gives them so much power over the land. It's honestly very impressive that they managed to redirect the waystones into a loop and create a closed circuit and maintain that for hundreds of years all things considered.
Mathilde thinking of turning the Empire into a closed circuit is certainly funny. Leave it to Mathilde to instantly take the information and think of how she could work with it.
Thorek could hardly contain himself I see.
They keep monoliths as a base to create new Waystones eh? I suppose that means that there have been new Waystones erected every now and then if a vital one breaks down. They can't exactly stand by and let the Vortex collapse because one nexus shut down.
I'd like to think that Ulthuan would never let Marienburg use the Waystones for their own benefit like that, but the concern is valid. I can't imagine it's nice to hear how much power your rival has over you.
Athel Yenlui is a map/location in Vermintide 2. It's Elven ruins in the Reikwald.
First, I wager that Ubersreik might be a nexus considering how much bizarre shit happens around there. It's a magnet for trouble.
Second, I think it's a very funny worldbuilding tidbit that Bugman's Brewery is a nexus and that explains why their beer is so damn good, instead of it being just some sort of family secret. Bugman's Brew is practically a magic item in Warhammer, so honestly it makes sense.
Albion. I suppose Hatalath doesn't feel the need to share at this juncture, for whatever reason. Perhaps it's not relevant for the moment, but I would hope he's not going to keep Mathilde in the dark over this forever.
You won't find detailed canonical maps of Estalia, or at least none that I know of, but Winds of Chaos the website that Boney uses for his fanmade maps has a map of Estalia. Los Cabos is there in the southwest. Magritta and Bilballi are the most major Kingdoms of Estalia and both are port cities that would be convenient nexus locations.
I'm not so sure about there not being a route through Mousillon. I distinctly remember Mousillon being a formerly Elven city, and it's a clearly magical land, if a deeply corrupted one. I have a feeling it's a deeply corrupted nexus.
Also, why Gisoreux to Parravon? Montfort is just skipped?
Aside from the Boyar kidnapping kind, there's also the sexy tree gal in tight leathers smiling at you, so maybe it's not all bad.
Pretty sure it would get somewhat unsustainable at some point if we need precious metals for tributaries. Even discounting human greed.
Used to be River Vitae with a Fountain of Life smack dab in the middle of it. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
I'm pretty interested in this. I assume the northern and western coasts of Araby are Waystone nexuses to some degree. That's where most of the Cities tend to be.
Lots of different points to pursue. This is going to be a doozy. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm of a mind to go for the charming wife route. I don't think Dragomas would mind all that much. Less people to go around with the knowledge, the better.
I don't think this is a good idea. Elaborate facades involving multiple people like this crumble like a house of cards.
Doesn't seem like a good idea either, to try to pretend the problem doesn't exist when it's so severe.
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Yeah no. No way we're backing down on the very first roadblock after all we've gone through.
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The Ancestor-Gods, channeling the real-life vibes of Jews: "Well, they tried to kill us, but they failed. Let's eat and drink and be merry!"
*Resounding cheers and applause*
Holding power is not conducive to retaining one's youth and health, even if you don't die from unnatural causes. And also, he's not an expert on magic - it could be argued, from an outsider point of view without all the details, that we could justify a lot of things to him that we couldn't to the Colleges. It's a bad precedent.
It's not Dragomas that we have to worry about here, it's everyone else who might side-eye how we're already close to the Empress and now we're going directly to him. It's a bad look we'd get from the rest of the Colleges.
Alric is a concern, but a distant one. Even he, glory-hungry as he is, must have a shred of pragmatism in him to have reached Patriarch, and he would understand that the Waystones project is too important. He might try to muscle in on us, but it's already too late to supplant us. At best, he could try to share some of the glory. I'd take that over potentially being looked at with suspicion.
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-3900 IC is the year that is given for the Chaos Dwarfs fully turning to Hashut, but every source I've ever seen says that contact between the Karaz Ankor and the Dwarfs of the Zorn Uzkul was lost when the major Chaos Incursion occurred, the one that prompted the Elves to make the Vortex.
The Dwarfen network, the part that is tied into said life-support, only draws power from Waystones placed in Old Hold Karaks.
So the one at Bugman's Brewery wasn't tied into that part.
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Dubious humour aside, I find that qualified oversight over delicate matters is an end unto itself, even if I understand a wish to escape the inevitable tedium in a fantasy like this one.
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This functions as proof that Dhar is not unusable, if the people who created the control-mechanism know what they do.
Now, nobody can doubt that the likes of Caledor Dragontamer knew what they do.
This functions as proof that Dhar is not unusable, if the people who created the control-mechanism know what they do.
Now, nobody can doubt that the likes of Caledor Dragontamer knew what they do.
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I think we should do through the proper channels for the sake of crossing all of our Ts and dotting all Is on this a bit dubious matter.
And if Alric starts causing shit on the project to investigate Waystones of all the things to mess with, it's his funeral and I bet a loot of people will help with arranging said funeral.
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And if Alric starts causing shit on the project to investigate Waystones of all the things to mess with, it's his funeral and I bet a loot of people will help with arranging said funeral.
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Going over the Collages head creates ill will we don't need to make.
Going over the Collages head creates ill will we don't need to make.
I just want to say:
So I'll have to bravely stand against this overwhelming majority here: Ending the Waystone Project is a bad idea, and plays into the hands of chaos. All those many, many people who voted for stopping here should really reconsider.
This is clearly some horrible daemon trying to shove thoughts into her head. I mean, a rule not being ambiguous? 'impermeable' roadblock? Sounds fake. That's not even getting into Mathilde considering not meddling. Hell, even when she stopped researching this exact kind of interaction, it was because she decided it was firmly in the illegal zone, and not because she thought it was too dangerous for her.
So I'll have to bravely stand against this overwhelming majority here: Ending the Waystone Project is a bad idea, and plays into the hands of chaos. All those many, many people who voted for stopping here should really reconsider.
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Looking at this, I feel it likely that we could ask the Amber College to bring us to broken/disabled waystones that samples can be taken from if the various project members don't know of any off-hand.
The bolded bit has rather gone over my head, I'm afraid. What was being communicated here?
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No idea about DL, but in canon it's because Thungni and Smeidnir and so on beign the children of Valaya and Grungi's kids is exclusive to 1e WFRP AFAIK. So it's a bit of canon clash.
Anhara Draconis has no canon location, that I'm aware of. The name does contain the word dragon, but that could be because of how the Elves used it for Dragonships, rather than the location. Honestly I'd be slightly surprised if it was in Caledor, Caledor isn't really somewhere I associate with wooded. I'd expect Nagarythe or Cothique myself.
I'd guess they don't having anything to contribute. Based off what was said later, the Kislevite Waystones seem to mostly be Elven, or Elf/Dwarf collaborations, and so had effectively already been discussed.
I think he's keeping quiet because he doesn't trust Mathilde not to report it to the Empire, and the Empire not to try and go there and muck around.
True, stress is bad for you but power comes with great healthcare. He has better doctors, and has a hgiehr standard of living. I suspect it's something of a wash.
Ah. I hadn't thought of that. In that case they're unlikely to have Waystones at all, seeing as the Karaz Ankor didn't seem to build them until the Elves turned up.
The problem with Dhar has never been that it's unusuable, it's that it sends peopel insane. As the Waystone Network has no actual people attached to it, there's no real risk.
I think Mathilde was checking that the Hedgewise's records also indicate that it's been a capital offence for that long. Certainly how I read it.
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Time to go poke the sleeping dragon for some sweet lore drop it seems, correspondence researcher Cython is a go.