Shrooms are basically death given life biologically. Wouldn't that be reflected metaphysically? Get some Purps on the case.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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Mushrooms are decay given life. As much as the Unclean One insists otherwise, the two are not at all the same.
Life from death is more of a Ghyan thing as the seed shows, it woks off corpses.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
You cannot kill me in any way that matters.
This looks the most appealing to me so far and will probably get my vote, but I'll still throw some additional options in here:
[ ] Plan Boring gets the job done
-[ ] OVERWORK: Slot 1
-[ ] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[ ] JOHANN: Attempt to map out the major flows of the Waystone network.
-[ ] EGRIMM: Experiment with integrating the Vitae into enchantments.
-[ ] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[ ] COIN: The Gambler, with a prayer to arrange the best possible conditions for the first meeting between Thorek, Hatalath and Niedzwenka, if possible.
-[ ] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[ ] Examine the Ghyran Nut with Panoramia.
-[ ] Attempt to codify Shadow Dagger Mastery so that others can learn it.
-[ ] EIC: Investigate what trade goods the Eonir might be willing to import from the Empire.
-[ ] KAU: The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books.
-[ ] SERENITY: Windsoak Mushrooms Book (1/2)
[ ] Plan Full Yolo
-[ ] OVERWORK: Slot 1
-[ ] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[ ] MAX: Learn to fly a gyrocopter with Mathilde.
-[ ] EGRIMM: Hunt an apparition with a member of WEB-MAT (Whispering Darkness)
-[ ] Ask Algard for last-minute advice on the Waystone project, how to bluff thousand year old archmages or whatever else he feels would help. Pay whatever CF is needed for his time.
-[ ] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
-[ ] Research AV-mushroom interaction with Panoramia.
-[ ] Attempt to learn Battle Magic at the Grey College: The Penumbral Pendulum.
--[ ] COIN: The Gambler.
-[ ] KAU: Approach We and Cython about the possibility of getting involved with the library.
-[ ] EIC: Work out a scheduling system that allows Mathildecopter to be used for priority deliveries during periods where it would gather dust instead.
-[ ] SERENITY: Write a fictional Wizard Chic novel about the romantic adventures of Magister Grey and Journeywoman Jade.
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The fundamental problem is something Mathilde cannot address as it requires the employment of methods neither she nor her girlfriend or the Jade Order are particular well studied in. It is less a dead end but more it requiring alot of effort to actually get Shysh and Chammon shrooms. As a remember this is the problem and potential long term solution.
- Location
- Australia
There are two paths forward here. Mathilde can spend literally years to decades of effort to completely invent the fields of mycology, and then thaumomycology, and then necrothaumomycology and alchemothaumomycology, or she can accept that there are questions in the world that she is not personally able to answer.
[ ] Go about recruiting an army of scribes so you can start copying entire libraries of material. (NEW)
No. Eastern Stirland is Sylvania. It is a reflection of Wilhelmine's skill that Mathilde's income didn't go down when the EIC expanded into it.
Before Mathilde is able to attract a whole bunch of people to dedicate their lives to the protection of her library, she's going to need to have an actually functioning library. If Mathilde decides to staff her library with Verenans then said chapter might be a freebie.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
@Boney Is there still a limit on how far we can go when it comes to Dwarven books and the Esoteric level on various subjects? I remember that this was a thing once. I also more vaguely have a half-formed memory that Anatomy was one of those subjects and that Dwarves didn't like it if the makeup of their internal bodies were publicly available.
Also, while I assume that any of the listed +0 topics cannot be affected by backfill and are only there in order to serve as bookkeeping reminders (no pun intended), how does this work for subjects where we only have a couple of Skaven books, i.e. tactics and logistics?
But we could also try a more direct approach:
@Boney Is there any overlap between the threads theories of who Ranald's daughters might be and Mathilde's own IC theories on the subject? If yes, did she read anything outright helpful or intriguing in that large collection of books she bought this turn that might help her/us out and that we the players can't find in the Wiki?
Or in other words, are there any Quest canon hints that you are willing to reveal to us based on our investment in Extensive (+2) level books on Shallya, The Lady and The Kingdom of Bretonnia?
Also, while I assume that any of the listed +0 topics cannot be affected by backfill and are only there in order to serve as bookkeeping reminders (no pun intended), how does this work for subjects where we only have a couple of Skaven books, i.e. tactics and logistics?
Assuming that Mathilde's behavior would have been more or less the same no matter what we'd have rolled on that d6, I'm curious how the other options would have been portrayed on the side of the booksellers. Travel brochures feels like they'd just offloaded some non-sellers all from one section. Textbooks maybe would translate in them wanting to make an impression of being useful beyond their obligations. But the 6? Hmm, maybe one of them actually has been to our Library and was appalled at how in a Dwarven Karak there were only a couple of basic books on each of the venerated Ancestor-Gods while all those Umgi gods got whole rows (and this Ranald a whole section) and even two Elgi gods took up more space than all the Ancestors combined? (Edit: This is me musing, not a question seeking an answer).
Just to clarify: This is for recruitments we do instead of laying the foundations, right? If we do both in the same turn nobody should take issue, I hope.
What are the chances of this resulting in another mini-adventure? "I don't know yet" and "try and find out" are both completely valid answers. I just want to know if the answer is anything like "definitely not", so I don't do the equivalent of fear mongering when asking voters to please give us a couple of consecutive real turns before the next potential mini-adventure.
Your plans seem to use Overwork if my count isn't off, but they don't say so. Could you add a note for clarity and bookkeeping purposes?
I feel bad for Egrimm who left the initiative for this up to us. This was like his pet project up there.
Do you mean high society or are you asking burghers and clerics of other gods and craftsmen and even peasant participate?
Hmm. @Boney, can Egrimm make Powerstones?
No she isn't. She is the sponsor and patron. And she's known as a lay priestess among a decent amount of locals. But she in no way executes anything like a high priestess job. As for influencing the local community: A) Whoever we chose as priest currently isn't even on our radar enough to have a name and b) a book might only be of use this way on its own after we decide to establish a basic literacy school. As of right now the best way to advance this cause would be a social action getting to know our local Priest of Ranald followed by an AP action to work beside him or her and exchange philosophies while giving ours weight by showing off.
I think he does. Just not in Kislev (let alone K8P).
So in theory and out of context her books could be interpreted as monotheist (or at least monolatrist) books? There's no mention on how the Lady fits in with the wider pantheon (be it as a ruler or as a friend)?
Ah thanks. So it wasn't a formal "spell" spell, like the ones we can learn or invent, but it might still be magic. Ritual, item, bound spirit of memory manipulation ect.
In an extensive collection of mundane books. Older books (antiquarian), rarer books (obscure) or outright weird and niche books (esoteric) might have more to go on.
But we could also try a more direct approach:
@Boney Is there any overlap between the threads theories of who Ranald's daughters might be and Mathilde's own IC theories on the subject? If yes, did she read anything outright helpful or intriguing in that large collection of books she bought this turn that might help her/us out and that we the players can't find in the Wiki?
Or in other words, are there any Quest canon hints that you are willing to reveal to us based on our investment in Extensive (+2) level books on Shallya, The Lady and The Kingdom of Bretonnia?
What are "berks"?
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
welp this is a bad time to be about to embark on a 24 hour car journey.
Done. I kind of took it as a given that any plan for next turn will contain an overwork action, so I didn't even think to mention it.
I mean whatever I can get, but really high society is most relevant here since the nobility worship of The Lady is the most, uh, important? I think? But the answer seems to be "skimming some books on Bretonnia isn't enough to figure that out", which is fair. The fact that The Lady makes no mention of truth being a part of chivalry and that Carcassone is held in high regard seems to point that way, but its hardly a slam dunk.
Yeah, but we can't get those kind of books, so we have to make do with what we have.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Lets do all three of these.
[ ] Experiment with integrating the Vitae into enchantments.
[ ] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
[ ] Using the secrets you already know of the Vitae, attempt to weaponize it.
Alongside lay the foundations and
[ ] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
There plan done :\/
[ ] Experiment with integrating the Vitae into enchantments.
[ ] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
[ ] Using the secrets you already know of the Vitae, attempt to weaponize it.
Alongside lay the foundations and
[ ] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
There plan done :\/
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Two questions:
Do we already have any staff at all or would that "army of scribes" become our most senior and self-managing staff if we do these two actions in the wrong order?
Couldn't we recruit the army of scribes through the EIC? I know it's not an EIC improvement or an espionage option, but making it the EIC's job to manage while Belegar bankrolls it wouldn't be bad for the EIC and would allow us to do a different KAU action in the same turn if we want.
Some subjects, yes. The thing with anatomy is that they really don't like people who steal and dissect Dwarven bodies, so the only Imperial writing on the subject of Dwarven anatomy is a few posthumous monographs. They don't have an opposition to the subject in the abstract.
Don't get too caught up on backfill mechanics, they're likely to change before the next time that decision has to be made.
Right.
Excavating the ruins of Castle Drakenhof is the wrong sort of malarkey to get up to if you're not in the mood for an adventure.
No.
A major point of debate in the books is whether worship of the Lady should be restricted to nobility and the peasants left to worship other Gods, or whether the Lady should be worshipped by all Bretonnians. A lesser point is the debate over where the Lady's influence ends and where Manann's begins. So the books definitely aren't monotheist, but nor do they sketch out any relationships between the Lady and the other Gods.
Me simulating Mathilde solving the mystery for you would render meaningless all the time I spent coming up with it and all the time everyone else has spent trying to solve it.
No.
The scribes will remain scribes no matter what order they're recruited in, they won't opportunistically metamorphize into librarians if you leave them unattended.
You could involve the EIC, but it's not going to be an EIC action.[/QUOTE]
I am now even more keen on the idea.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
if people can mine for fish in everquest we can absolutely mine for book in dwarf quest. Also this sounds amazing, lets do it.
Shame I wont be around to advocate, literally leaving now. :/
- Location
- Russia
I wouldn't be surprised if Khazalid word for "fishing" was literally translated as "fish mining".
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
If you come up with a plan you want to submit, tag me and I'll post it when the vote opens.
(Was able to get about two hours of sleep, woooooo)
Anybody feel strongly about the EIC action this turn? Shadow hq for the Hochlander to be able to do work that requires a staff vs checking Eonir attitudes about trade seem like the most obvious choices, but maybe an alternative merits consideration.
[-] Plan Disregard WEBMAT, Acquire AP (Fatherless) + recruitment
-[-] One Overwork Action
-[-] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[-] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[-] COIN: The Gambler
-[-] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[-] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[-] Attempt to bring a non-Order magical tradition into the Waystone Project (Nordlander Haléthan Hedgewise)
-[-] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[-] EIC: Investigate what trade goods the Eonir might be willing to import from the Empire.
-[-] KAU: The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books.
-[-] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
nearly the same as @picklepikkl except I replace the ghyran nut with attempting to recruit the nordlander hedgewise cause we wanted them for a while so I rather get it done and so we know what they want of us so we can start doing it for them.
edit: I also appreciate if you posted it about when the vote again thanks for offering
-[-] One Overwork Action
-[-] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[-] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[-] COIN: The Gambler
-[-] Attempt to bring a Major House or Ward into the Waystone Project (Tindomiel)
-[-] Branulhune's ability to disappear and reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[-] Attempt to bring a non-Order magical tradition into the Waystone Project (Nordlander Haléthan Hedgewise)
-[-] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[-] EIC: Investigate what trade goods the Eonir might be willing to import from the Empire.
-[-] KAU: The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books.
-[-] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
nearly the same as @picklepikkl except I replace the ghyran nut with attempting to recruit the nordlander hedgewise cause we wanted them for a while so I rather get it done and so we know what they want of us so we can start doing it for them.
edit: I also appreciate if you posted it about when the vote again thanks for offering
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- Location
- Outside the Box
- Pronouns
- She/Her
[-] Plan Vital Vitae
-[-] One Overwork Action
-[-] WEB-MAT: Hire someone as a full-time Gyrocopter pilot (Adela)
-[-] Lay the foundations: work with the current members of WEB-MAT and the Waystone Project to build a single unified framework for understanding the Waystones.
--[-] COIN: The Gambler
-[-] Branulhune's ability to disappear an d reappear at a thought allows entirely new forms of combat. Continue to work on them.
-[-] Experiment with integrating the Vitae into enchantments.
-[-] Investigate how the Vitae reacts to a power stone.
-[-] Using the secrets you already know of the Vitae, attempt to weaponize it.
-[-] EIC: Investigate what trade goods the Eonir might be willing to import from the Empire.
-[-] KAU: The many legends about the amount of books contained within and under Castle Drakenhof still haunt you. Organize an expedition to mine the ruins for books.
-[-] SERENITY: Write a book: Windsoak Mushrooms (1/2)
I'd love to do a bunch of research this turn. Why not punch out our current slate of AV actions?
Aww. Well, good luck on your trip! Or by the time you read this: I hope your trip went well!
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Yeah, that's bookworms, not scribes.
- Location
- South Africa
Don't feel too strongly, but considering what we have attempted to use the EIC for, a shadow HQ sounds useful.
- Location
- Czech Republic
After the talk with baron Heinrich where he talked about issues with trade with Laurelorn I much prefer doing hq first.