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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Codex said:
Tell that to whoever made the ritual, who clearly thought that holy water was enough of a deterrent to be scared of casting the spell. If holy water does nothing to Vampires, then the ritual's failure is non-consequential, and thus, a failure of game design.

Rituals explicitly have a failure state that doesn't include a miscast. You only miscast on a "double, triple or quadruple". You could theoretically roll a single dice with the ritual, fail it, and not suffer a miscast. There's a spectrum of failure, and it's not all miscasts. I also find it funny that you're somehow saying a sudden rain of holy water is supposed to freak out people when it's supposed to be used against Vampires brazen enough to attack a particular location. People won't give a fuck if Sylvania receives a rain of holy water.
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Well, Boney found the solution to that, but to be fair, it's not like bad game design was out of the realm of possibility.

I wasn't saying failing casting a ritual led to a miscast. I said that deliberately attempting to fail it sounded very unsafe, and compared the level of safeness to deliberately inducing a miscast, largely because that's something that's come up in the story before. Also, I was saying that a rain of blood would freak people out. A rain of holy water would presumably have no effect on any regular person, who would just assume it was regular water.

DragonParadox said:
Small problem with that, you now have paranoid people with magesight under a spell you put on them as apprentices without their knowledge. The odds of them not finding out are I would judge slim to none and even less so would they react well to it.
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Except that's definitely not true because Mathilde was under (and is still under) the effects of a spell that messed with her memory. The Grey Order leave information packets in their members heads to give warnings about stuff. It might not be the exact same spell, but it's a spell of some kind, and no one has noticed or cared. Probably because Wizards are difficult to see with magesight anyway, because they draw and contain their own Wind. Mathilde similarly has trouble with using magesight to read Pan's emotions due to the Ghyran drowning them out.

Also, even if they found out, it wouldn;t matter if they didn't know the wording of the oath. Unless you can dispel the effects, which brings me back to my original point, which was that the Colleges presumably don't use it to bind their members becasue a Wizard can dispel it, which therefore makes it a poor fit for keeping secrets magically. The theory expressed by Wiggy would also explain it though, because someone would already have broken or be planning to break the oath before you can utilise the ritual.

Basically, I think there's a problem with using the ritual that isn't solved by just using it on willing participants, because again, it would more widely used otherwise.
 
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deathofrats0808 said:
Except that's definitely not true because Mathilde was under (and is still under) the effects of a spell that messed with her memory. The Grey Order leave information packets in their members heads to give warnings about stuff. It might not be the exact same spell, but it's a spell of some kind, and no one has noticed or cared.
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Boney stated that Grey memory packets are not actually a spell.
 
IronFist said:
Not mutilating herself, but changing her combat style to better use the sword, in the same way, she changes herself to better use ulgu.
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Not really. Our Ulgu changes have fundamentally changed who we are e.g. we can no longer safely (even for a wizard) wield Aqshy or divine magic. The process is also irrevisable.

Changing a sword style on the other hand is just that. We can still use other swords and other sword styles, thus the changing combat style to maximise our current and expected long term sword is simply common sense, not chisel fingers.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Boney on Apr 13, 2022 at 3:00 AM, finished with 577 posts and 65 votes.
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So we know the real reason Mathilde is pursuing unblockable teleport-cannonball-swording. ;)
Boney said:
[Instant reinforcements: Req 50, Learning, 45+28=73.]
[Swing: Martial, 4+23=27 vs 39+40-30(Unaware)-10(Wounded)=39.]

You could picture it so perfectly in your mind: you appear standing on Deathfang's neck, sword already mid-swing, and you take the Daemon's head neatly off its shoulders. You save Deathfang, Asarnil pledges eternal friendship, Deathfang shares some juicy dragon secrets, happy ending for everyone but the Tempter. The Daemon has other ideas. In an instant its talons are out of Deathfang's neck and catching Branulhune in mid-air, and though daemonic ichor spills forth, it manages to arrest the swing of the runic blade.
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:V
Boney said:
"I should be asking you that question," Asarnil says with a laugh. "If that had worked, the poets would be fighting each other for the honour of putting that maneuver of yours into verse."

You grimace. "I'm aware. But my ego will heal."
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Huh, it appears the College vote is borked for some reason. Those "nothing" votes should have [COLLEGE] and not [DWARF] in front of them.
 
I'm disappointed my vote didn't win, but I'm still happy nonetheless. Back-fill gets us the most books out of all the acquisition options and we're buying 400 gc worth of books on top of that. It's a good haul.
 
That's...good? Probably better than a pile of books on the Ancestor Gods. I guess maybe Textbooks would have also been nice?
What would Travel brochures even mean? Geography?
 
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