Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
I mean, two legs. Depending on how long they are, we've probably got enough for two.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
I don't think it's outright impossible, but our best lead is Haletha, goddess of protection and shadows.
Also, I'm not sure why the Widow would be our best lead.
Correct me if Im wrong, but my understanding was that those were Hedgewise from the Empire side of the river, no connection to Hagwitches. If my lore is correct, and its long ago that I read the kislev stuff myself, so it might not be, the Hagwitches arent connected to any god at all and come the original Ungol traditions form befor gospodar interference. It seems sort of farfetched to connect them to Ranald.
The Hedgewise on the other hand I can understand. I wasnt convinced, not that I had a better guess, but after the impression youre quoting here Im quite sure its our best chance.
TLDR: Hedgewise =/= Hagwitches
On the vote Im thinking both options for Waystoneproject, books are nice, this is important. Id rather go for Hagwitches then Kislev because I think that a) its easier to get Kislev in then to get the Hagwitches in and b) the hagwitches are useful right from the start, even more, they are the most useful before laying a foundation, while Kislev is the most useful once we get to some practible part
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Also, man, I do kinda feel sorry for Drycha. Mathilde comprehensively destroyed her on basically every level in this little tiff. Caught out her stealth force, re-wrote the numbers and power balance to completely curbstomp her army, defeated Drycha's own information gathering, and then personally bitchslapped her twice in quick succession, countering her one attempt at direct action. Lord Magisters are fucking terrifying.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
There's a couple bits in Realm of the Ice Queen that show they have some sort of connection to the Ancient Widow.
Not least of which is possessing the spell Form of the Ancient Widow.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
You know, with all of these Libraries around, I think it's entirely possible our post-Waystones arc is spent dedicated to building these connections. It'd be a relative pressure-free job too, perfect for spending 2-3 actions on while we go through the The Backlog.
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
And with all that there was still a 2/6 chance of her cutting and running, and irl Ranald was with us on this one in terms of the combat rolls.
Omg: This is inverted-dice equivalent of Abel dying.
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You know, this quest has a surprisingly disproportionate amount of courting relating to botany...
The dice really do love Kislev.
Downside of overkill is never finding the body.
Upside of overkill is being fairly sure regardless.
A fine first date for the pair.
While this might just have been fanatical devotion to their cause it could also be an indication that they weren't super worried about being 'killed'.
Thank all the non-malevolent gods we have never ended up employed by someone like that.
I suppose 'encased in permafrost' is a fairly good solution to vampiric regeneration.
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
- Location
- A Valid Location
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Too overt. A Staff of Cheek is far more befitting Mathilde's style and personality.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
According to Night's Dark Masters, she's in a block of never-melting ice in the Palace.
Akasha
The Only Truth
- Location
- 「̛̛́́ ͏̨҉̕͏ ͏̶̴」
While I would absolutely consider the accidental permadeath of Drycha to be a high point of the quest - one to counterbalance Gotrek's murder by Lord Newton of the Eshin clan - I know my anime tropes. If you blasted the opponent with a super-potent explosion and you didn't find the body after the dust cleared up, they're just getting started.
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- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Well if it's Drycha's bottom half, we could call it the Distaff?
Warmach1ne32
Machine of War and Quests
- Location
- Indonesia
Should we investigate where the Palace's Waystone energy ended up?
In all fairness, you can totally get enough wood from each of her legs for a staff.
Drycha was tall even before the bee mech.
but 'The twin leg' staffs just don't hit as hard as 'The Butt Staff.
The Cheekly wand?
get the max amount out of the legs and the butt.
Drycha was tall even before the bee mech.
but 'The twin leg' staffs just don't hit as hard as 'The Butt Staff.
The Cheekly wand?
get the max amount out of the legs and the butt.
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Thinking Kislev(we really want that permission for all sorts of magic users to tromp around their countryside poking waystones) and Ice Witches(who'd normally price gouge us).
Ice witch library tempting though
As for the dryad butt. Study first.
My gut says Windherding staff or Apparition binding focus
Ice witch library tempting though
As for the dryad butt. Study first.
My gut says Windherding staff or Apparition binding focus
My ignorance showing it's head again, I had no clue about this Haletha and how she's involved with the Hedgewise.
I'm also not saying the Widow is our best lead, I never said that.
Here is what I said, even taking some inspiration from what you've said.
-Salyak is Shallya.
-The Widow, and thus the Ice Witches, had some unspecified problem with Ranald.
-Ranald had twins daughters with Shallya (it is twins, I'm not remembering wrong?)
-These daughters are in hiding, and their worshipers take that seriously.
-Then the Hag Witches deal with more obscure spirits and such.
All of this is why I feel like the Hag Witches are the best lead. On that note, is it a popular sentiment that Haletha is the lead? I can't really tell why. Is she supposed to be one of the twins? All I see is that she's the 'protector goddess of the Hedgefolk'. So is she supposed to be another facet of Shallya, and thus her daughters are hidden away in the Hedgefolk pantheon?
I guess I can see that, with how reclusive and secretive the Hedgefolk are.
Seems like a good lead, but as far as I know we still lack any explanation for the Widow-Ranald conflict.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
this. Anyone with knowledge about dryads probably has at least heard of drycha
also: what a debut
we sure did disapprove
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
On Haletha, I'll leave that to @mathymancer, that's their balliwick.
Securing aid for a project of world-shaping significance vs indulging our bibliophilia.
Tragically I think duty must come before pleasure.
I feel like the first could be leveraged into the second with a bit of work, but either would be fine.
Every turn we see paths less walked, and weep for we can follow but one road.
The intended reward.
It is plausible that wondering around our current base of operations with items made out of Forest Spirits could be… impolite.
It is plausible that our current employers can provide Forest Spirit components.
In either case I don't feel we need more fancy reagents. Don't think we even used up all of the stuff we already have.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
On the other hand, it fits Mathilde's style to name them both something related, but different from each other, and let people make the connection on their own. Sort of like the Rooms of Calamity.
Anyways, I really want both Ice Witch and Hag Witch, because that combined with the actions we just did to get both the Jades and Lights involved basically makes four separate human institutions in one turn. That's really good, and makes it very likely for us to prove that we actually have something worthwhile to the two elder races involved. Also leaves us with just the Hedge mages, basically, maybe one of the Elven houses of Magic if we want to be extra thorough.
She was stealing our Schtick. It's deserved.
- Location
- Earth
It has something to do with the rest of the Widow's pantheon other than Dazh, Tor, and Ursun no longer being around, but other than that the followers of the Kislevite pantheon (or at least the Widow's followers such as Ljiljana) aren't keen on discussing details with outsiders. We do know that Shallya/Salyak was the one who originally got Ranald involved, that she was more easily forgiven by the Kislevites than Ranald, and that the Widow contacting Khan-Queen Miska of the Gospodars happened in the aftermath of whatever it was.
This is what she looks like now:
Not as threatening because she isn't piloting a mecha made of beehives.
TBH, I was half-joking at most with my question earlier. I did not expect an in-story answer, and much less that being: actual factual Phat L00t
this goddamn quest