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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Like I said, she's not a Daemon who just automatically fails to die unless you put disproportionate amounts of power in it. She was out of her home ground, in a fight she thought was a milk run, and the moment she realized she was in real danger she got hit with Battle Magic of the Bright Wind before she could so much as whip out a single cantrip.

And the fact she could brute force past the rejection suggests that this was, in fact, 'Close enough' to her true body to count. Even if there's something left that she can regrow from back in Athel Loren that has perfect retention of memories from the main body, this was likely a significant investment of her ability to act, that's more or less been reduced to aethyric slag through the energetic addition of copious amounts of Aqshy.

She's either Genuinely Dead, or so badly mauled that she'll be centuries recovering and might not even recall what the fuck just happened to her. Which is the same thing for the purposes of this game. If she did anything less than a massive investment of her power and sentience into this operation, I suspect the "BEGONE THOT" aura the Forest of Shadows was radiating at her would have just extinguished it. Given how debilitating it was as it was, effectively being a permanent Melkoth's level debuff on all actions (Which, as we pointed out before, is the difference between Literal Immortal Daemons and State Troops in combat skill, an insane debuff by any reasonable definition)
 
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[ ] [KISLEV] Waystone Project: Kislev
A formal partnership with Kislev itself will mean you will have easy access to its lands for study and experimentation in the later stages of the Waystone Project.

A defence of this action over the hag witch (even if I'm not actually sure myself)

Having the right to mess around Kislev is, arguably, as important as getting any of the magic groups on the project.

its not only a place with some of the oddest waystones, but its also the No.1 Place we want to actually do experiments and set up proto-type waystones.

having permission at the optioning stage of the project will save a lot of hassle going forward.
 
Yeah, even if Drycha somehow survived that it's unlikely she'll be coming after us. Because she thinks on a timescale that will have her after us in a century or two.
 
Boney said:
I bodge together Gospodarinyi by picking random parts of every language between Munich and Perm, if any of it is ever grammatically correct in any language it's by accident. And the unmodified word 'Kislev' has heft in my mind, mostly because when you talk to Kislev in Total Warhammer the way they greeted you was to just say 'Kislev'.
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Kislev is land, land is Kislev.


Here's my argument for Hag Witches: you like Babushkas? They're super-Babushkas. Literally, the more powerful they are the older they'll look.

And they can live for a long while regardless. It's outright stated they can easily live to over 100, and some can get far beyond that. With a bit of luck we could be getting some old Hag that lived through the Great War Against Chaos.

A human that can stand her own in a 'old grouch' contest with Thorek and Hatalath!
 
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Meanwhile the playerbase of Drycha quest are crying bullshit while the other players explain that they got cocky and the QM explains that the also happened to have really bad luck with the rolls.
 
Uuuuugh my heart wants to give the EIC another foothold to expand into, but my head knows that's probably a waste! 😩 Mercantile action + a little spying, as a treat, would be nice tho.

Pretty much gonna be voting for Kislev to be on board and double witches and just let those chips fall where they do.

Being able to roll up and examine/tinker with the chilly parts of the network here down the road would probably be pretty useful, but it's hard to deny all the knowledge two different sects of ice casters could bring.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
[ ] [KISLEV] Waystone Project: Kislev
A formal partnership with Kislev itself will mean you will have easy access to its lands for study and experimentation in the later stages of the Waystone Project.

A defence of this action over the hag witch (even if I'm not actually sure myself)

Having the right to mess around Kislev is, arguably, as important as getting any of the magic groups on the project.

its not only a place with some of the oddest waystones, but its also the No.1 Place we want to actually do experiments and set up proto-type waystones.

having permission at the optioning stage of the project will save a lot of hassle going forward.
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True, but given how eager Boris was to bring the project to Kislev in the first place, I don't think it'll be too hard to earn permission later on, especially if we've managed to compile all the knowledge needed to know what we're doing. Which is easier if we have the Hag Witches already involved.
 
Byzantine said:
Yeah, even if Drycha somehow survived that it's unlikely she'll be coming after us. Because she thinks on a timescale that will have her after us in a century or two.
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Look, the method of attack was a massive burst of Aqshy--massive energy and one of the banes of Forest-type entities, which she still is even if she's mostly mutated into a shadow monster.

Either she had a little seed of herself back in Athel Loren that she could respawn back from because Plot Character Immortality, in which case she has two choices. She's either directly managing her actions there with the seed receving real-time data. In which case that fire is going to burn up the connection and immolate her reserve, because she didn't have time to cut the chain before she was deleted.

Or she doesn't and just got updated, in which case she's not even going to know what the fuck just happened to most of her because it happened so fast.

For her to survive that, retain full information about everything that happened, and recover in a timespan meaningful to the Quest would require absurd amounts of plot armor, which Boney never gives to anybody who isn't a Daemon or a Vampire (And even the latter can still be killed, they just can't be killed beyond all hope of return)
 
Who would be able to identify Drycha from the sample we have? Is it enough that going up to the right person and asking "Can you idenify who this came from?" reasonable?
 
Boney said:
I don't think it's ever reasonable to give someone a Dryad butt and ask them whose butt it is.
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Speaking of said butt, I have to ask. Does it seem more amenable to Ulgu enchantment than any other random tree branch, or was it relatively unaffected by Drycha's admittedly brief possession? Or is that something we'll have to investigate?
 
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You return Ljiljana's thoughtful look with a smile - your invisibility having been shattered by the use of the Dragonflask
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We weren't visible until after the Dragonflask was already going.

Even if Drycha comes back, and even if she has perfect retention of what happened, all she'll know is that there was an invisible mage with a sword that cut right though her and then hit her with fire.

Why would her first thought not be an Elf? She's already predisposed to blame everything on them.
 
Mopman43 said:
One important note here-

We weren't visible until after the Dragonflask was already going.

Even if Drycha comes back, and even if she has perfect retention of what happened, all she'll know is that there was an invisible mage with a sword that cut right though her and then hit her with fire.

Why would her first thought not be an Elf? She's already predisposed to blame everything on them.
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Oh yeah, the sheer speed this all unfolded and the use of Teclisian Magic. Yeah, she might literally just pin it as a rogue Elf playing silly buggers. It was established a while back that Ancient Beings tend to be slow to realize that humans can do good Magic too.
 
Mopman43 said:
One important note here-

We weren't visible until after the Dragonflask was already going.

Even if Drycha comes back, and even if she has perfect retention of what happened, all she'll know is that there was an invisible mage with a sword that cut right though her and then hit her with fire.

Why would her first thought not be an Elf? She's already predisposed to blame everything on them.
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That's… a fair point. Although to be fair Damsels can use multiple Winds, so it might not discount humans instantaneously. Assuming she thinks those were both natural uses and not enchanted gear.
 
Mopman43 said:
Sure, but there isn't a single Damsel on record using Ulgu or Aqshy.

Apart from the Fey Enchantress, anyways.
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Drycha's the only dryad to ever use Ulgu, right? That we know of, at least. If anyone would allow for exceptions to the rules, it would probably be her.

On record doesn't mean too much.
 
Ericwinter said:
That's… a fair point. Although to be fair Damsels can use multiple Winds, so it might not discount humans instantaneously. Assuming she thinks those were both natural uses and not enchanted gear.
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Damsels use Beast and Life, sometimes Heavens. This was a mix of Fire and Shadow, which is normally the purview of-

Of Chaos Sorcerers that don't get a Mark Lore.
 
[ ] [KISLEV] Waystone Project: Kislev

I am going for this and I hope more people are, i want to reassure Kislev that we have all the intention of bringing the fruits of the project to them, it broke my heart having to choose the elves over them even if I think it was the right choice.

They, and the world (even if most like to pretend it's just Kislev's problem) really need to push back the wastes, and access to their lands makes that outcome a more likely possibility.
 
BeepSmile said:
I... think I've missed the discussion that provided strong evidence that the Hag Witches were linked to Shyalla's and Ranald's kids, would you mind linking me to the start of those posts plz? 'cuz my belief was that their followers were a small sub-sect within (some of) the Hedgewise groups
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Not much in terms of discussion, the hints were just kind of hamfisted during our visit to them for help on figuring out what was up with the forest.
 
Ganurath said:
Damsels use Beast and Life, sometimes Heavens. This was a mix of Fire and Shadow, which is normally the purview of-

Of Chaos Sorcerers that don't get a Mark Lore.
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That or old 4th edition Chaos Dwarf Sorcerer-Prophets.

Don't think that's going to be her first thought, but if we're raising possibilities.
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Not much in terms of discussion, the hints were just kind of hamfisted during our visit to them for help on figuring out what was up with the forest.
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The Forest of Shadows exists in a lot more than just Kislev*, and Hag Witches live everywhere in Kislev, not just the Forest of Shadows.

*Only about a 5th of it is in Kislev at all
 
I wonder, Mathilde doesn't know much about Dryads normally, and she didn't get a good enough look at what happened to Drycha, but did she get any sort of look at what happened to the spirits of the other Dryads/ Branchwraiths?
 
I admit to being rather surprised that Dragonflask didn't require any kind of roll, beyond to see its effects. Nothing for damage or to hit, just BAM enemy physical form obliterated.
 
Either someone figures it out from Mathilde's descriptions and has to look her in the eye and tell her, or Mathilde does some research into dryads and Athel Loren and slowly realizes herself who she just blew up. Both are very good.
 
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