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I would love it if the guy we saved came to Griffons Wood with us to repay Mathilde for saving his life, two buddies off to find and kill a gribbly.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Drama dice indeed.
I maintain that Branulhune is, at least situationally, the equal of the Rune Fangs. Not least in the situation of ambush assassination.
But an elf probably could. We should see if we can find some sparing partners among our new neighbours, get a bit of practice in against preternaturally fast opponents.
Probably a bunch of elves too. I don't imagine they get many wolves inside the city.
The power of minions!
While commendable patriotic I imagine this has resulted in many dead civilians over the years. Enemies of Taal are all too often things you don't want to fight with just a knife. Plus the fact that the Longshanks are primarily bowmen and shooting into melee is never certain.
Wonder what, or who, backstopped those arrows. This is a crowded street after all.
Politeness.
Disappointing.
Oddly enough this is both below and above our level. Tracking down and clearing one chaos safehouse is not worth our time. But trying to clear all of the illicit safehouses in a city needs an army.
Avatar trait showing itself.
Honestly I'm perfectly happy to accept help from any non-malevolent gods. Even Sigmar, if he ever gets off his arse to aid the people trying to preserve his empire.
I'm thinking Mira.
We don't need the credit, nor do we care all that much about other people investigating now that the primary subject is dead. The Longshanks… I'm just not sure they could offer us all that much, particularly if they are as local an organisation as I think they are.
Having a Magister Matriarch well disposed to us can be very useful. And it is a clear continuation of Mathilde's overachievement habit.
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Unrelated to current goings on as the increasingly bogged down comprehensive readthrough continues: Ha
I dunno, has anyone seen Alric in the last hour and a half?
"Aha," Mathilde says, "A Challenge."
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The Longshanks are not local, they are Taal's witch hunters and he is worshiped throughout the empire and beyond
Don't they also have a presence in Bretonia as well? I know the cult of Rheya does, but I am not as sure about Taal.
Consider the history of the Cult of Taal as we know it from Tome of Salvation.Taal was patron god of the Taleutens. When they crossed into the Reik basin there were no cults or organised religion, tribal chieftains unified temporal and sacred power, being seen as being closest to their gods. Note that the chieftain was the representative of their tribes to all the gods they recognised. The chieftain of the Taleutens wasn't like a proto-priest of Taal. He would lead the sacrifice to each god on Their own holy day and he would be the one to call for Their aid. The gods of the most successful tribes proliferated and became recognised by the other tribes, with Taal recognised as the predominant god of nature/natural phenomena. For about seven hundred years into the tribes' occupation of the Reik basin there was no cult or priests of Taal.
About three hundred years before the coronation of Sigmar, the situation changed, strongly hinted to be because of contact with Tilean organised religion, priests and cults of the various gods were established. Initially priests of individual gods began taking (or being delegated?) responsibility for dealing with their particular god from their tribal chieftain. As priests became more common, priests of the same gods in different gods came together to form the Cuits to their gods. It's described that in this era the various holy texts of these gods were written with the help of the (originally Tilean) Cult of Verena. This process of cult formation wasn't always peaceful, there was clearly conflict between priests of the same god.
Once the cults were formed, there was further competition between them. The Cult of Taal decided that they weren't satisfied with Taal being recognised as the predominant nature god, they seem to have decided that he should be the nature god, so did their best to destroy the Cults of the other gods of the natural world and claim their gods was the true god of whatever it was. This is when the Cult of Söll as god of the sun was destroyed outside of Wissenland, and Cult of Ahalt as god of fertility was destroyed entirely. This wasn't unique, the Teutognen priests of Ulric exterminated their rivals completely as well.
If we can trust Tome of Salvation, this tells us that the earliest records of the cult of Taal should date to the couple of centuries before the coronation of Sigmar, when the cult itself came into existence. They may also have captured some records from the other, short lived cults they defeated
Note that this is all a discussion of the history of the Cult of Taal as the institution that exists in the Empire. It's not a history of the God itself.
What this record does make me wonder about is what the cuits of the classical gods may know, as they were organised institutions before those of the northern gods. The records of the Tilean Cult of Karnos, who the Empire believe is identified with Taal, might be more interesting for Waystone research than the Imperial version.
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Hmm... can we expect the Taalites to have meaningful Waystone knowledge?
The Forest of Shadows is quite a ways away being between Nordland and Ostland. Talbeclanders are not irrelevant but definitely not on topic.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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Mostly because Alric will know (or at least strongly suspect) that we intervened to deny him credit, considering how far we are from our usual haunts and past actions like poaching Egrimm, and while his power base is waning he's still someone we probably don't want to encourage to hold a grudge against us.
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I've been checking out Imperial Heraldry, and I found a really neat tidbit about Talabheim that I thought was worth mentioning considering current circumstances:
"The Talabheim colours are red and white and since the year 1111 the state banner has been depicted as a warrior maiden bearing an icon of the Imperial Griffon holding the Hammer of Sigmar. As the tales go, it was such a maiden, a healer, who took up arms and rallied the defenders to save the plague-ridden city from being taken by Chaos Ratmen. She died a hero. but her legend as saviour of the city lives on in the form of numerous shield and banner designs. The motto of that defence, 'None Shall Pass' is still used by many of the soldiers responsible for the defence of the crater wall."
"The Talabheim colours are red and white and since the year 1111 the state banner has been depicted as a warrior maiden bearing an icon of the Imperial Griffon holding the Hammer of Sigmar. As the tales go, it was such a maiden, a healer, who took up arms and rallied the defenders to save the plague-ridden city from being taken by Chaos Ratmen. She died a hero. but her legend as saviour of the city lives on in the form of numerous shield and banner designs. The motto of that defence, 'None Shall Pass' is still used by many of the soldiers responsible for the defence of the crater wall."
Worship of Taal and Rhya is fairly common among Bretonnia's peasants, but their shrines are protected by Bretonnia's Knights as an extension of protecting the peasantry. There's no official Longshank presence in Bretonnia.
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Probably not.
The Longshanks are only witch-hunters in Talabecland, but they're present everywhere in the Empire. We can just ask them to gives us contacts with their Nordland/Ostland branch.
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Isn't the project already financed by the Eonir and K8P?
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They might still have contacts among the local Faithful of Taal and even if not they know a lot more about moving around in a forest, any forest than Mathilde 'can't tell one tree from another' Webber.
Rhya was allegedly the patron goddess of the Bretonni, so it makes sense she was taken over the mountains with them. Whether the Taluten pogrom against cults of other gods of nature stretched over the mountains seems less likely. There may well be gods worshipped in Bretonnia with different names that the Empire's cuit say are aspects of Taal, but their cults may well disagree. We don't know much about Bretonnian peasant religion. For all we know the consolidation of cults and elimination of many minor gods that apparently happened in the couple of centuries before the coronation of Sigmar didn't occur in Bretonnia, so nature is mostly worshipped in the form of countless minor local gods (who may or may not be fey)
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I'm not entirely sure if Egrimm's reassignment and promotion can be entirely pinned on Mathilde, since no one but she, Mira, and Egrimm would know for sure that Mathilde had a hand in them. To most people--heck, maybe even to Alric himself--it'd just be Mira removing a useful piece from the board in her intrigue against him for the Big Chair.
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Unclear. The more scattered Belthani menhirs however, they are probably one of the most likely information sources.
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The primary enemy of Taalites in general, I think. The Knights of Taal's Fury the ex-K8P Amber Wizards are riding with don't count as Longshanks--at least, I don't think they do?--but they usually fight beastmen even so.
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Egrimm went on a trip with Mathilde for a few months, then immediately after he came back to her and participate in a project she's leading. A few months after that, he becomes a Lord Lagister at the same time another Light LM enters the project. Alric may not be the best political operator, but he's not oblivious enough not to notice all of that.
Edit. It's obvious that Mathilde did something to help Mira, and what else could she need help for in that context?
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What an incredibly delightful climax to this arc. It's a good thing we spent the preceding rounds stacking advantages, because given how well this dude rolled we goddamn well needed them. I also really liked our Avatar trait coming into play, especially given the complicated and painful history between Ranald and Ulric; that was awesome.
Typo catches:
Voting-wise, I'm fine with any of the non-Mathilde options; Order of Light is probably "optimal," but The Templars of Sigmar has useful perks, and Longshanks is the interesting mystery box. I'll approval vote for now and then probably update once I read through the thread and see people's arguments.
[X] The Order of Light
[X] The Longshanks
[X] The Templars of Sigmar
Now to catch up on eleven pages, rip my morning free time
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nights -> night's
rips -> rip
Not a typo, but repetition of "the crowd" is a bit awkward -- maybe the second part can be just "as he pushes his way through"?
there's -> there are
Similarly, not a typo, but three instances of "uncomfortable" or derivatives in pretty close succession.
Voting-wise, I'm fine with any of the non-Mathilde options; Order of Light is probably "optimal," but The Templars of Sigmar has useful perks, and Longshanks is the interesting mystery box. I'll approval vote for now and then probably update once I read through the thread and see people's arguments.
[X] The Order of Light
[X] The Longshanks
[X] The Templars of Sigmar
Now to catch up on eleven pages, rip my morning free time
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[x] Yourself
Considering how unpopular Alric is this might be a political boon rather than a downside particularly since that list contains Elspeth and Dragomas.
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