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I read it as a dumb Emperor joke. It's, uh, comically beside the point regarding any actual racism - but it's funny if we're mocking the Empror, who's really bad at shaping human society (assuming he actually had good goals and was bad at them - the "the Emperor was always Hitler" side wouldn't read it that way).
 
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I read it as a dumb Emperor joke. It's, uh, comically beside the point regarding any actual racism - but it's funny as satire of how bad the Emperor is at shaping human society.
I guess? From outside the 40k fandom I'm not super familiar with the Emperor. All I know is how many nerds idolise him and consider him the pinnacle of humanity or something.
 
I preferred it without the context tbh. Thought it would be a neat Gelt throwback, not a dumb race joke. EDIT: Not calling your joke dumb, the context of it disagrees with me however.
I just rewatched the relevant part of the video, and I was wrong 😅 The « gold is superior » was when talking about the colour schemes of the Space Marines. The conversation about racism was later in the episode.

Here's the link for those interested

View: https://youtu.be/M56aycpd9kA
 
I guess? From outside the 40k fandom I'm not super familiar with the Emperor. All I know is how many nerds idolise him and consider him the pinnacle of humanity or something.

Oh no, certain parts of the fandom do but even GW is clear that the Imperium of Man is totalitarianism taken to the extremes of parody and the Emperor is very much a part of that critique. He is an illustration of how the great man theory of history fails. Here if your great man, a corpse covered in cables, his mind long since shattered along with his body.

If The Emperor Had Text to Speech goes with a softer version of the character, they pretty much have to or they would not have a premise, but he is still the but of plenty of jokes.
 
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Oh no, certain parts of the fandom do but even GW is clear that the Imperium of Man is totalitarianism taken to the extremes of parody and the Emperor is very much a part of that critique. He is an illustration of how the great man theory of history fails. Here if your great man, a corpse covered in cables, his mind long since shattered along with his body.

If The Emperor Had a Text to Speech goes with a softer version of the character, they pretty much have to or they would not have a premise, but he is still the but of plenty of jokes.
Maybe? The fandom makes me uncomfortable. I'm only in the periphery but I think I heard a hundred "kill the Xenos" jokes (are they jokes) and some questionable stuff in my time. Doesn't help that one of my first figures when trying to get into it was Majorkill, where I clicked on a video to be met with several slurs back to back.

In all my time in Fantasy, I have never had as uncomfortable a time with the community as I had with 40k in just the gew glimpses and attempts at getting into it.
 
I guess? From outside the 40k fandom I'm not super familiar with the Emperor. All I know is how many nerds idolise him and consider him the pinnacle of humanity or something.
Let me put it this way:
  1. WH40k is a mostly shitty, toxic fandom that I quit years ago (although I'm still on the leftist 40k meme subreddits)
  2. 40k is a dystopian setting, trapped in a permanent apocalypse that lets you enjoy both the dystopia and the post-apocalyptic dystopia all in one game!
  3. The Emperor is the arguably divine, arguably figurehead leader of a massive fascist empire
  4. The Emperor first came as a messiah, won a massive pile of wars and pretty much ended the galactic Dark Ages. Also, he did a bunch of genocides and whatnot. Fans like to gloss over that.
  5. The Emperor created a deeply flawed empire whose internal fuckups (many of which were institutional, some of which were personal life fuckups in the Emperor's immediate family) led to a massive civil war. The Emperor died in the process. The Empire, however, did not die.
  6. The Empire as it stands today sucks. It's terrible. Shitty place. Even the Emperor's biggest fans can only say "it'd be even worse without him!". Lots of this can be blamed on the Emperor's complete inability to create institutions that don't fucking implode the moment he's not micromanaging them - this is usually caused by his inability to understand how humans will (predictably) react to things. Hence why I find "Emperor has shit taste and is bad at understanding how humans work or how to fix human problems" jokes funny.
 
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Yes 40k is offtopic. This whole tangent also took place over the course of 20 minutes. It takes a bit longer than that for people to realise that something is offtopic when they're caught up in a discussion. That's how conversations work.
 
Maybe? The fandom makes me uncomfortable. I'm only in the periphery but I think I heard a hundred "kill the Xenos" jokes (are they jokes) and some questionable stuff in my time. Doesn't help that one of my first figures when trying to get into it was Majorkill, where I clicked on a video to be met with several slurs back to back.
To be fair, most Xenos in 40k are pretty awful. But I imagine it's mostly joking.

Agreed on Majorkill tho. Normally I don't mind the slurs that much, but there's a lot of them in his videos. Also, him using « gay » as an insult isn't very pleasant to hear.

WH40k is a mostly shitty, toxic fandom that I quite years ago (although I'm still on the leftist 40k meme subreddits)
What is so toxic? I must say I don't interact that much with the fandom.
 
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Maybe? The fandom makes me uncomfortable. I'm only in the periphery but I think I heard a hundred "kill the Xenos" jokes (are they jokes) and some questionable stuff in my time. Doesn't help that one of my first figures when trying to get into it was Majorkill, where I clicked on a video to be met with several slurs back to back.

In all my time in Fantasy, I have never had as uncomfortable a time with the community as I had with 40k in just the gew glimpses and attempts at getting into it.

Yeah there are some really questionable actors out there, but there are also a lot of good welcoming people. The trouble is is that a lot of the 'the Emepror did Nothing Wrong' crowd are very very loud and understandably the reasonable part of the fandom does not want to have anything to do with them so if you happen to find a group of them it is easy to imagine that all 40K fans are like that.
 
Well, their biological makeup also makes it harder for them to become successful assassins. . . . but it is hardly the full required skillset for any typical assassin archetype.
I'm taking a dwarf sniper over any other kind all day every day - steady hands, inimitable patience, reliable gear diligently kept in top condition, good eye for the lay of the land . . .
 
Let's get the conversation back on track. Looking back on Boney's comments, I've decided we should ready the Longshanks for a mobilisation. Scouting is great and all but I prefer we have them on the ready for a fight, because Boney said that they would not be if we just have them on scour. I think that's a bit more important than Form, because I think there's too much variability in there:

[X] Plan Longshanks:
-[X] Scour the city: The Longshanks
-[X] Ready forces: Longshanks
 
Not touching Dhar isn't a matter simply of judgment, but having a strong mental disciple to adopt a mindset purely aligned with a single Wind as you draw in, channel, and shape magic, whatever it is you're actually doing.

Being able to, for example; thinking only philosophical thoughts as your contemplate pure reason might be something you can do in a library just fine, but managing it in combat as you'd need to be able to do when on your journey to become a Light Magister is quite another matter.
That's true for the Lights. But a Grey Apprentice being constantly confused non-stop about simple things like what rules are actual rules and what's supposed to be guidelines you're meant to subtly break is an option. And the Jade mindset seems orthogonal to sound judgement and intelligence.
Yeah, what kind of fool would do such a thing? I guess if you gained the money in some sort of illegal way, say embazzling, you might do that, but doing it for mere money? No true wizard would stoop to such lows.
Student loans are wack, yo.
Is Mathilde Ranalds unofficial troubleshooter, enforcer, executioner etc.. When soft or polite methods don't work Ranald sends Mathilde to kill or solve problems?
That could have been true, if we had chosen one of two jobs we were offered instead of the Waystone Project.
Yeah there are some really questionable actors out there, but there are also a lot of good welcoming people. The trouble is is that a lot of the 'the Emepror did Nothing Wrong' crowd are very very loud and understandably the reasonable part of the fandom does not want to have anything to do with them so if you happen to find a group of them it is easy to imagine that all 40K fans are like that.
Every parody of fascism seems to attract actual fascists that praise the work unironically.
 
I'm reading 7th Edition Lizardmen and the book confirms the exact same Slaan Spawning numbers as 6th Edition. All first Generation are dead, 5 Second Generation alive, 20 Third Generation, unspecified number of Fourth and Fifth. I also discovered the name of three of the five Second Generation Slaan:

Lord Mazdamundi of Hexoatl, the City of the Sun.
Lord Adohi-Tehga of Tlaxtlan, the City of the Moon.
Lord Huinitenuchii of Xlanhuapec, the City of Mists.

Perhaps not so coincidentally these three each live in one of the four surviving Temple Cities of Lustria. The fourth is Itza, the first city, but that city is protected by the spirit of Lord Kroak. There are two more but I don't know them.
 
I think it is almost certainly not a coincidence. The hordes of daemons did have some sense of strategy, they were not destroying the cities just because it was fun, but to get to the Slann mage at the heart of it. Where they did the Slann perished and the city fell, where they did not the immoral Slann live on... with the exception of Lord Kroak who unlives on.
 
I think it is almost certainly not a coincidence. The hordes of daemons did have some sense of strategy, they were not destroying the cities just because it was fun, but to get to the Slann mage at the heart of it. Where they did the Slann perished and the city fell, where they did not the immoral Slann live on... with the exception of Lord Kroak who unlives on.
Technically Huinitenuchii comes from Pahuax, the same city that Oxyotl comes from and that had the failed ritual that teleported Oxyotl into the Aethry. Huini got himself severely injured after a duel with Slaa'Ulann, a Greater Daemon of Slaanesh, and it took him a long time to recover, which I believe is where his attendants dragged him to a still surviving city. Xlanhuapec likely already had a Guardian Slaan that wasn't Huini.
 
I think it is almost certainly not a coincidence. The hordes of daemons did have some sense of strategy, they were not destroying the cities just because it was fun, but to get to the Slann mage at the heart of it. Where they did the Slann perished and the city fell, where they did not the immoral Slann live on... with the exception of Lord Kroak who unlives on.
It is worth noting that Lord Kroak is not the only Relic Priest remaining active. Most if not all Slann who die get mummified and most of those are still active. It's just that Lord Kroak is the only one to remain powerful enough to tear armies apart instead of just sending a few omens or the like.

You might think that this is Omegahugger advocating Necromancy again, but no, Relic Priests aren't considered undead units. They are just regular dead wizards except powerful enough to not have that stop them.
 
It is worth noting that Lord Kroak is not the only Relic Priest remaining active. Most if not all Slann who die get mummified and most of those are still active. It's just that Lord Kroak is the only one to remain powerful enough to tear armies apart instead of just sending a few omens or the like.

You might think that this is Omegahugger advocating Necromancy again, but no, Relic Priests aren't considered undead units. They are just regular dead wizards except powerful enough to not have that stop them.
Lord Kroak is stated to be a mere fragment of who he used to be, so the process is pretty imperfect and he's not nearly as effective as he used to be.

What he used to be is a guy who it took dozens of blessed Bloodthirsters charging him while being directly blessed with Khorne's direct involvement and anti magic to rip him apart, and his spirit was still strong enough to cling to reality to blast them all to ash. Makes Aenarion the Defender look like a chump since he had Indraugnir by his side and he died fighting a mere four Greater Daemons, one for each Chaos God (he did win, but he had Widowmaker, Asuryan and Khaine's blessings on top of Draugnir's descendant fighting by his side).

In addition, Kroak used to know a ton of spells. Now he can only cast a single spell.

Granted, that spell is the Deliverance of Itza and he can cast it as many times as he wants and it can nuke an entire army of Daemons to smithereens, but that's just a fraction of what he used to cast to clear Itza. I think it's preferable to stay alive then go with the Relic Priest method.
 
What he used to be is a guy who it took dozens of blessed Bloodthirsters charging him while being directly blessed with Khorne's direct involvement and anti magic to rip him apart, and his spirit was still strong enough to cling to reality to blast them all to ash. Makes Aenarion the Defender look like a chump since he had Indraugnir by his side and he died fighting a mere four Greater Daemons, one for each Chaos God (he did win, but he had Widowmaker, Asuryan and Khaine's blessings on top of Draugnir's descendant fighting by his side).
Don't forget he also destroyed millions of demons all over Lustria.
 
Student loans are wack, yo.
It's extra weird if your not used to needing them. Like, for me the tuition cost per semster was about 500, which includes a semster ticket for bus and train, and also newly introduced. The idea of someone ending up with 100000+ debt just doesn't really compute.

Of course, for Mathilde it was all costs associated with growing up, plus the training costs. And I can see the Grey College not being able to easily eat the costs, since they take in a lot of young children, and unlike the Gold, Celestials or Jade, don't have easy income streams. (Not that they particularly want to, because it's a nice tool and test)

I'm kind of wondering about the other colleges now. Ambers don't need much. Brights have military service, but there's a lot of ways fire can be useful in general. Interesting enough, but the Amethyst and Light order both have some degree of asceticism. I wonder if some part of that is that they just don't have great ways of making money.

The lights could heal, though there's a lot of competition from priests, who most would prefer. Truth telling is also something easily monetized, but they also take in a lot of children, most of whom don't make magister.

@Boney Has the money making of the different colleges come up in your world building already?
 
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Once again rereading random chapters.

"-and Snorri Farstrider for the Rangers."

"That one's spent too long under the open sky," Dreng says. "But for an overland trek, there's none better."
This is kind of an odd comment for Dreng to make, given how he himself is an ex-clanless ex-ranger. Even if he was the kind to still sleep under the mountain more often than not while Snorri was extremely outdoorsy even among the Redbeards or something, he should be sensitive to this oft overused disparaging remark that gets used by traditionalists against the majority of Rangers.

I'm curious what this says about Snorri, Dreng or both.
"Ever since he brought news of our northern kin and was crowned for it, dreamers have been imagining holdouts in every Hold from Karak Zorn to Karak Vlag to Karaz Ghumzul, and some even gossip of Holds over the seas."
Silly dreamers and their overactive imagination. :V
 
This is kind of an odd comment for Dreng to make, given how he himself is an ex-clanless ex-ranger. Even if he was the kind to still sleep under the mountain more often than not while Snorri was extremely outdoorsy even among the Redbeards or something, he should be sensitive to this oft overused disparaging remark that gets used by traditionalists against the majority of Rangers.
I don't think rangers is prestigious, because there's no ranger god. Obviously, they are respected because they fullfill a needful role, but by the nature of the role they're going to be different than the hold dwarfs. It both makes them different, and is attractive to those who already are different. So I can easily see ranger as used for "strange in a not immoral way".

Plus, there's also another aspect: Nobody tries as hard to be respectable/conforming as someone who's from an outgroup trying to be accept in the in-group. Doesn't even have to be conscious.
 
I don't think rangers is prestigious, because there's no ranger god. Obviously, they are respected because they fullfill a needful role, but by the nature of the role they're going to be different than the hold dwarfs. It both makes them different, and is attractive to those who already are different. So I can easily see ranger as used for "strange in a not immoral way".

Plus, there's also another aspect: Nobody tries as hard to be respectable/conforming as someone who's from an outgroup trying to be accept in the in-group. Doesn't even have to be conscious.
I think what Rafin is saying is that it's weird that Dreng is the one saying it, because he used to be a Ranger too, and Belegar directly chastised him in front of the council for thinking like a Ranger and doing what was immediately convenient rather than looking for the best solution. Rangers are not prestigous yes, but Dreng was a Ranger. A clanless Ranger at that, which is worse than a disgraced clan in the eyes of Dwarves.
 
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