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Well yeah. A 6 is always a failure, so there's always a 16.67% chance or something that you fail an initiative test even if you have Initiative 10. The probability of what you just mentioned is even worse though, since I think the Scatter has like six sides. I assume you're saying that he didn't misfire, it just scattered on him him, so the probability of what happened to that person is like 16.67% x 16.67% which I'm not arsed to do right now.
Scatter die are worse, because if it's not a misfire, you have a 2/3rds chance of the template actually scattering and if it does then you move the template the direction the arrow is pointing. So the odds are even lower. Also depends on the distances, but I can't remember how the Brass Orb scatters exactly.
 
Scatter die are worse, because if it's not a misfire, you have a 2/3rds chance of the template actually scattering and if it does then you move the template the direction the arrow is pointing. So the odds are even lower. Also depends on the distances, but I can't remember how the Brass Orb scatters exactly.
I think the orb was 1d6 scatter distance, but it's been a while.
 
Scatter die are worse, because if it's not a misfire, you have a 2/3rds chance of the template actually scattering and if it does then you move the template the direction the arrow is pointing. So the odds are even lower. Also depends on the distances, but I can't remember how the Brass Orb scatters exactly.
Assuming it's 7th Edition, the rules are that you place a small round template anywhere within 8" of the character with the Brass Orb then you scatter the template like a Stone Thrower.

Chances are it wasn't 7th Edition though.
 
Assuming it's 7th Edition, the rules are that you place a small round template anywhere within 8" of the character with the Brass Orb then you scatter the template like a Stone Thrower.

Chances are it wasn't 7th Edition though.
Pretty sure it was the WD battle report for the edition that introduced the ratling gun. Which edition that was, however, I have no idea.
 
Does anyone know where the costs for books are? The gold costs I mean, I am thinking of going all out on god books next turn, but since the free purchases are either elf or dwarf/human. We can only get one of them for free (the elf makes the most sense to get free since it is not one godess but two as a package deal) and then we can get all the imperial books on Halétha.
 
Does anyone know where the costs for books are? The gold costs I mean, I am thinking of going all out on god books next turn, but since the free purchases are either elf or dwarf/human. We can only get one of them for free (the elf makes the most sense to get free since it is not one godess but two as a package deal) and then we can get all the imperial books on Halétha.
They are in the Character Sheet in the Library spoiler.
Each +1 bonus costs 50 gold crowns, or local equivalent. Books on magic will cost College Favour as well as gold, books by Dwarves will cost Dwarf Favour as well as gold. The cost is 1 favour for Obscure and Antiquarian levels, 2 favours for Esoteric.
 
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So 250 gold for every single book on Halétha the empire has? That seems worth it to me, especially if we are going to use the Father, if we are though it should be with another delay to starting up the project. I really do not want the start up action not because I think we will blow up a waystone, but because diplomacy is easy to sour at the first real interaction and we have some real Prima Donnas... er that is wise and powerful sages with their own ideas for how to do things, and we are going to need all the help we can get to wrangle them.
 
Worst case scenario, it's 250 gold to help get the Hedgewise on-board.

At least, the Haletha Hedgewise seem like a better fit than the Middenland ones. Sure, the Middenland ones are Ranaldians, but they've also got long-standing beef with the Cult of Ulric. Wouldn't be surprising if their price was related.
 
Worst case scenario, it's 250 gold to help get the Hedgewise on-board.

At least, the Haletha Hedgewise seem like a better fit than the Middenland ones. Sure, the Middenland ones are Ranaldians, but they've also got long-standing beef with the Cult of Ulric. Wouldn't be surprising if their price was related.
To be fair, a large part of that is that they were persecuted by the Cult of Ulric during the Three Emperors Era. If we can extract a promise from the Ar-Ulric to leave them alone it's possible we can get them to cooperate.
 
Do we've any plans about trying to recruit Ice Witches? I think getting a Cult with a completely different magical tradition could offer pretty good benefits.
 
So 250 gold for every single book on Halétha the empire has? That seems worth it to me, especially if we are going to use the Father, if we are though it should be with another delay to starting up the project. I really do not want the start up action not because I think we will blow up a waystone, but because diplomacy is easy to sour at the first real interaction and we have some real Prima Donnas... er that is wise and powerful sages with their own ideas for how to do things, and we are going to need all the help we can get to wrangle them.

Would the Empire have books about a minor goddess that seems to be mainly worshipped by a persecuted group? I think Boney said that we wouldn't be able to get books on the Hedgewise themselves.

To be fair, a large part of that is that they were persecuted by the Cult of Ulric during the Three Emperors Era. If we can extract a promise from the Ar-Ulric to leave them alone it's possible we can get them to cooperate.

Why would the Ar-Ulric want to leave them alone though? There are reasons the Cults suppressed the Hedgewise. Particularly when they've got an even stronger excuse to persecute them as they break the Articles of Imperial Magic.
 
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Worst case scenario, it's 250 gold to help get the Hedgewise on-board.

At least, the Haletha Hedgewise seem like a better fit than the Middenland ones. Sure, the Middenland ones are Ranaldians, but they've also got long-standing beef with the Cult of Ulric. Wouldn't be surprising if their price was related.

Pretty much, it we are going to get hedgewise it should be them. Also for anyone who might be wondering at the change of heart on my part, the reason I am pro just using the Father now and not later is because I realized that next turn has a free overwork action, an extra AP.

The way I see it is the Gambler entourages focused play, so you have your main action for which you pray really hard to Ranald and get two +20s and then maybe you putter around with side actions that are less important and supporting actions. With every other face of the coin which applies to everything you do you want to go broad, take as many actions where it can help as humanly possible, so if it is the Night Prowler steal and assassinate, if it is the Protector protect, if it is the Deceiver lie and if it is the Father.... look for divine kids.

If you are going broad rather than wide it makes sense to do so on a turn with an extra AP to play around with. So for instance we could go Hedgefolk+House Timonel+the Lady even if people really think she is a contender and maximize our chances of pinging someone, while also haveing actions for personal projects (like Divine Tongs or Teclisian applications for AV)

Personally I really do not think it is the Lady and hope someone else will come up with a more convincing theory, but that is it, that is my plan for next turn.
 
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Do we've any plans about trying to recruit Ice Witches? I think getting a Cult with a completely different magical tradition could offer pretty good benefits.
There were mentions here and there about doing it, but we got no idea how much support it gets until a vote is held. That is usually the case for a lot of things.
 
A thought about recruitment, if Ranald has made up with the Kislevite pantheon, I wonder if using the Gambler to help recruit the Ice Witches wouldn't have a risk of backfiring if they notice the divine intervention.
 
Would the Empire have books about a minor goddess that seems to be mainly worshipped by a persecuted group? I think Boney said that we wouldn't be able to get books on the Hedgewise themselves.

There is no mention of her worship being persecuted so I think they would have something, there are all sorts of weird academics willing to poke things, but just to be sure @Boney does the Empire have books on Halétha?
 
There is no mention of her worship being persecuted so I think they would have something, there are all sorts of weird academics willing to poke things, but just to be sure @Boney does the Empire have books on Halétha?
This was his response to books about the Hedgewise:
They'd come up here and there in books on the Empire of Man, but books dedicated to the topic would generally be possessed either by the Hedgewise or by the Templars.
Haletha is a goddess of the Hedgewise, so I imagine she falls under the same umbrella. Kurtis definitely has a lot of knowledge about it, but if you click the quote, you'll see that Boney says he will almost certainly be very tight lipped due to his double/triple/quadruple agent status.
 
There is no mention of her worship being persecuted so I think they would have something, there are all sorts of weird academics willing to poke things, but just to be sure @Boney does the Empire have books on Halétha?
Possibly there might be a category like "Minor Gods of the Northern Empire" or similar that she might fall into?

I do expect she wouldn't be a subject just by herself.
 
This was his response to books about the Hedgewise:

Haletha is a goddess of the Hedgewise, so I imagine she falls under the same umbrella. Kurtis definitely has a lot of knowledge about it, but if you click the quote, you'll see that Boney says he will almost certainly be very tight lipped due to his double/triple/quadruple agent status.

She is a goddess that is worshiped by the hedgewise but I do not think it has been confirmed that she is only worshiped by them and thus the topics overlap.
 
Possibly there might be a category like "Minor Gods of the Northern Empire" or similar that she might fall into?

I do expect she wouldn't be a subject just by herself.
Knowing the Empire's general tendencies chances are she'll probably be lumped in as some sort of aspect of an existing Goddess, maybe something like "Haletha is Haleth, the name change being the result of linguistic drift, and as such is an aspect of the Goddess Rhya" or something like that.
She is a goddess that is worshiped by the hedgewise but I do not think it has been confirmed that she is only worshiped by them and thus the topics overlap.
I read the sourcebooks where she comes up. She is ONLY worshipped by the Hedgewise. No one else is mentioned.
 
Do we've any plans about trying to recruit Ice Witches? I think getting a Cult with a completely different magical tradition could offer pretty good benefits.
I'm skeptical about the odds of getting them on board when we're not based in Kislev, but maybe it's worth a shot? Shrug.
Why would the Ar-Ulric want to leave them alone though?
Theoretically? Because we're doing him a solid by building the diplomatic bona fides of his new allies and coreligionists. Backing off a group that isn't causing major issues right now is the sort of thing I can imagine him going for.
Also for anyone who might be wondering at the change of heart on my part, the reason I am pro just using the Father now and not later is because I realized that next turn has a free overwork action, an extra AP.
Your analysis about whether it is better to go broad or focused on actions based on the Coin face is good, but this part is incorrect. We Overworked on T35. It will next be available penalty-free on T38, and next turn is T37.
Current overwork status: [+] [ ] [ ]
Each box will be filled by one action of overwork, and will take the two turns after that to fade as you recover. The first box incurs no penalty. The second will give a -10 penalty to all actions during the first turn of recovery. The third will give a -20 penalty to all actions on both turns of recovery.
Overwork incurs no penalties on the turns taken, only on the turns recovering from it. You can take as many actions of overwork as you have unfilled boxes.
When you use overwork it fills the left-most empty box, so [-][ ][ ] becomes [-][+][ ], not [+][-][ ]. All boxes recover in parallel and independent from one another, but second and third apply maluses on your actions during that cooldown period.
Current overwork is +00, next turn it goes to -00, and the turn after that (T38) it's 000 and we can overwork for "free". It's every third turn, not every other turn.
 
Knowing the Empire's general tendencies chances are she'll probably be lumped in as some sort of aspect of an existing Goddess, maybe something like "Haletha is Haleth, the name change being the result of linguistic drift, and as such is an aspect of the Goddess Rhya" or something like that.

I read the sourcebooks where she comes up. She is ONLY worshipped by the Hedgewise. No one else is mentioned.

Ah... Ok, in that case we will have to go blind on that, but hell, it is not like it is not worth trying even so. The hedgewise would be useful on a good roll (or if the Father procs) but they are not I think necessary so we can just roll the dice on them.
 
Page 56 of Shades of Empire, where the Hedgefolk come from, says this about Haletha:

"most Nordlander and Ostlander Hedgefolk contest they are last remnants of an ancient cult to Halétha, a Goddess they claim protects communities from the Forest of Shadows."
 
This is going to be annoying to pay back... I don't think even Dwarven post gets to dum right now...

We owe money to a ghost and as far as the Karaz Ankor is concerned a damned dawi. The only reason that is even on there is dwarf infection, realistically when speaking of a debt that does not have anyone to pay to and is unlikely to have for the next century or so if ever it might as well not exist.
 
We owe money to a ghost and as far as the Karaz Ankor is concerned a damned dawi. The only reason that is even on there is dwarf infection, realistically when speaking of a debt that does not have anyone to pay to and is unlikely to have for the next century or so if ever it might as well not exist.
We are still talking about dawi, someone will have it in a book somewhere...
 
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