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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Sydonai said:
I'm choosing Faith because this type of thing could theoretically be used to frame a deity for something via false evidence of their involvement.
And I don't want to be even tangentially involved in what could easily escalate into a divine civil war.
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I find this extremely unlikely.

First they would have to infiltrate and steal our crystal, which is extremely unlikely and basically a quest end, because if they're able to do that then surely they're able to steal the Liber Mortis. If this happens something has already gone very wrong.

Then they'd have to acquire the divine signature of the God they want to cause a civil war without getting caught.

After that they'd have to do the thing that causes the civil war and success without getting caught or killed, as it'd give the game away.

Finally there's 2 things more that would have to happen:

1 the people investigating said attack do not find the crystals in crime scene. Something pretty unlikely.

2 the priests are actually able to sense and identify the divine energy of another god, something which per words of Boney we can't even especulares if it's post or not (unless they're already very familiar with said, god but it seems unlikely)


Boney said:
Based entirely on speculation, Mathilde would guess that it would be very unlikely for a Wizard without extremely advanced Windsight to be able to see the divine energy within the crystals unless they submit them to prolonged study in a suitable environment. Mathilde cannot even begin to speculate if the same would apply to the magical senses of an Anointed Priest.
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Oh, yeah they'd also have to know we've divine crystals and the way to create them.
 
Sparsebeard said:
I also like how much of the Faith argument is driven by fear. Normally, I would probably find it distasteful, but it's so incredibly fitting for people (including me in this case) to choose Faith because of our fear in the consequences of our lack of faith lol.
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Yeah, no. My main reasons for voting Faith are that I like Mathilde's faith as an aspect of her character and that I dislike R&D actions in the quest.
 
Well, 6 more votes and we hit 500.

Curious how close we get to the record.
Adhoc vote count started by Mopman43 on Oct 29, 2021 at 11:43 PM, finished with 2142 posts and 494 votes.
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I've been on the fence about this because I really want to do the research just to learn more but I'm not convinced people will be willing to not use what we learn, it's the Liber Mortis all over again.

[X] Truth
 
So generally I do not participate in this thread beside voting and the occasional opinion but I must say this vote is both important and close by Ranald! It can go either way and I can not wait for who wins! Because either way it will change the course of this quest!
 
[X] Faith

Here me out. First, we sacrifice Ranald's fingerprint to Ranald. But - and this is important - we don't stop collecting fingerprints. We keep nabbing other gods' fingerprints and sacrifice them to Ranald, so that he may add unintended identity theft to his long list of crimes!
 
Talon TigerDino said:
Here me out. First, we sacrifice Ranald's fingerprint to Ranald. But - and this is important - we don't stop collecting fingerprints. We keep nabbing other gods' fingerprints and sacrifice them to Ranald, so that he may add unintended identity theft to his long list of crimes!
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But what if he tells us to stop? Then our plans have to stop as well!

Better to steal two dozens of fingerprints first, then sacrifice them all to Ranald in one go!
 
Talon TigerDino said:
[X] Faith

Here me out. First, we sacrifice Ranald's fingerprint to Ranald. But - and this is important - we don't stop collecting fingerprints. We keep nabbing other gods' fingerprints and sacrifice them to Ranald, so that he may add unintended identity theft to his long list of crimes!
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If that's the case you should likely Vote Truth, given that guarantees the collection of fingerprints rather than let it be up to gacha, and then later on if/when we do talk about this with Ranald then we could do that. As that is not at all something that should be assumed when taking the Faith option, not to mention it also places Math into a different relationship beyond the casualness of it with Ranald.
 
Sparsebeard said:
I also like how much of the Faith argument is driven by fear. Normally, I would probably find it distasteful, but it's so incredibly fitting for people (including me in this case) to choose Faith because of our fear in the consequences of our lack of faith lol.
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Eh
My reason for voting faith is based less on fear of consequences and more because I find studying people like phenomena to be incredibly unethical and find arguments that appeal to greed unsatisfying. Ranald is described as a friend, and in a morally ambiguous situation my first priority is making sure to not do harm to friends.
 
Talon TigerDino said:
[X] Faith

Here me out. First, we sacrifice Ranald's fingerprint to Ranald. But - and this is important - we don't stop collecting fingerprints. We keep nabbing other gods' fingerprints and sacrifice them to Ranald, so that he may add unintended identity theft to his long list of crimes!
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To build on Void's point, Boney did say that Faith would involve us completely stopping this line of research barring the incredibly low chance of getting Ranald's support.
 
The Void said:
If that's the case you should likely Vote Truth, given that guarantees the collection of fingerprints rather than let it be up to gacha, and then later on if/when we do talk about this with Ranald then we could do that. As that is not at all something that should be assumed when taking the Faith option, not to mention it also places Math into a different relationship beyond the casualness of it with Ranald.
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Being fair, Boney said the vote should be treated as permanent.

Saying "We can bring it up to Ranald later" is as wrong as saying "We can collect divine signatures after getting Ranald's approval".
 
flotter said:
Eh
My reason for voting faith is based less on fear of consequences and more because I find studying people like phenomena to be incredibly unethical and find arguments that appeal to greed unsatisfying. Ranald is described as a friend, and in a morally ambiguous situation my first priority is making sure to not do harm to friends.
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You know I cannot help but wonder something, if there was a vote to burn this crystal, which rightfully belongs to Ranald, but not as sacrifice and then continue to make others would you take it? Genuine question because that would be my inclination as well in a perfect world and I am curious to know how many faith voters would prefer such an action?
 
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