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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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The Badlands remain a very significant threat that spews out a Waaagh every now and then and can likely destroy the Border Princes on their way to Black Fire Pass. The Howling River Princedom can probably maintain its position because it's sponsored by Barak Varr, but I think most of the place will stay anarchic.
 
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Max Uristwell said:
We never would have saved Vlag if we hadn't been on the expedition to Karag Dum, which was only made possible by Zhufbar's landships. Kinda difficult to deny that we wouldn't have saved Vlag if it hadn't been for Zhufbar, since they were the entire reason we happened to be passing nearby in the first place and we only decided to investigate on a whim while we were in the area. Or did I miss the part where Belegar sent us to go and muck around at a site where everybody thought the already knew what had happened?
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All right, how about a rephrasing? For him to give credit to Zhufbar and Kadrin but not mention Eight Peaks' contributions is not cool.
 
Boney said:
The Grey Mountains are relatively lacking in mineral wealth, so in Karan Norn foresters and carpenters are as common as miners and blacksmiths.
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Found an old typo: Karak Norn.

Some minor questions @Boney:
Would Mathilde peg Barak Varr or Marienburg as the more popular trading hub? Since she's visited both before, or is it not something she can reliably say?
Also, was Neferata's Silver Pinnacle considered a Karak before it fell, or was it just a sizable "Stronghold"?
 
Tasoli said:
Huh. You know once dwarves takes over all passes no darkland army will be able to threten the old world. I imagine places like Border Princes will flourish as only enemy will come from south and even that will be less between Barak varr and Mad dog pass.
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Well, presumably a large enough Waaagh could travel past a Dwarfhold and absorb the losses from the cannons and gyrocopters; there's limits to what even Dwarves can do against a million warm bodies. Ones that don't have God-blessed doom-towers, anyway.

But then, orcs probably aren't built for ignoring a good fight standing right there flipping them off with bolt-throwers, even if it would mean getting to raze the Moot to the ground again.
 
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Well fuck. That's... a thing. And even if Thorgrim doesn't bother to explain how or why this is possible—he's still under oath, after all—Belegar can probably guess. And even if it's not quite recognizing that the Waystones are vitally important to preserving the Karaz Ankor, it'll still be enough for him to recognize them as useful. Hopefully he might share that with Azul.
 
Guile said:
Well, presumably a large enough Waaagh could travel past a Dwarfhold and absorb the losses from the cannons and gyrocopters; there's limits to what even Dwarves can do against a million warm bodies. Ones that don't have God-blessed doom-towers, anyway.

But then, orcs probably aren't built for ignoring a good fight standing right there flipping them off with bolt-throwers, even if it would mean getting to raze the Moot to the ground again.
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There's a fairly simple solution to that. :V
 
Not 'counting' the contributions of exceptional individuals to Expeditions meant Mathilde's involvement in Karak Vlag went unmentioned, yes. But it also meant that Thorgrim did not take credit for sending literally Kragg on the Karak Eight Peaks Expedition. So either he wants to get a really tepid dunk on Belegar more than he wants to not look like a fuck-up, or he's being sincere in the point he's making.
 
Boney said:
Ever since his ever-reliable Loremaster had uncovered the matter of the siphoned energy, he had wondered what purpose Karaz-a-Karak had been putting it to.
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Boney said:
Perhaps he should have brought Mathilde along on this, so that her keen senses could have assayed whatever it was the High King was up to in these long-abandoned halls.
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I also greatly enjoyed getting a peak at Belegar's internal dialogue in regards to Mathilde. He's grown to really trust and depend on her, to the point that he had a fleeting thought of bringing her along despite technically not being his Court Wizard anymore.
 
Boney said:
Not 'counting' the contributions of exceptional individuals to Expeditions meant Mathilde's involvement in Karak Vlag went unmentioned, yes. But it also meant that Thorgrim did not take credit for sending literally Kragg on the Karak Eight Peaks Expedition. So either he wants to get a really tepid dunk on Belegar more than he wants to not look like a fuck-up, or he's being sincere in the point he's making.
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Nice to see Mathilde being compared favourably to Kragg :)
 
Those surveillance cameras (and not just ye olde cameras, it can also detect and identify Orks too) would've been effective when dwarves were mostly stuck on land. They're gonna be even more valuable now when the High King can send out Gyrocopter air strikes and punitive missions.
 
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I suspect nothing short of crowning Belegar (or Mathilde) as the High King of going full slayer on a demon or something is going to be enough at this point.
 
Boney said:
Not 'counting' the contributions of exceptional individuals to Expeditions meant Mathilde's involvement in Karak Vlag went unmentioned, yes. But it also meant that Thorgrim did not take credit for sending literally Kragg on the Karak Eight Peaks Expedition. So either he wants to get a really tepid dunk on Belegar more than he wants to not look like a fuck-up, or he's being sincere in the point he's making.
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It's always amusing to see that when Thorgrim tries to make up with Belegar it goes completely sideways.

He tries to talk with Mathilde after she frees Vlag, but just misses her. He sends workers to help rebuild the Karak, but there are massive tension with the dwarfs there. He tries to make a positive speech, praising their achievements, but doesn't attribute Mathilde's accomplishment, thereby stumbling right into Belegars own issue of not crediting Mathilde and asking her to keep Thorgrims "die well" message private.

Every time he tries time and space bend over backwards to cut him off at the knees. Almost makes me suspect some kind of Tzeentch-ian plot
 
Boney said:
I'd actually considering signposting this more back when that decision was being made, but honestly Loremaster Mathilde wouldn't have had any involvement with patrols and rebuilding done by Karaz-a-Karak and the actual attack on Silverspear is going to be quite a while off. Border Princess Mathilde would have been a bit more connected to it, but Barak Varr did drop hints about there being Dwarven plans for Mad Dog Pass.
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You did what you could,
It pretty hard to be more interesting a waystone project with vague hints...

I did want to be a princess, but that vote never had a chance to win. And I kind made peace with it long time ago.

That said, if you offer us the chance to be a princess again. And people don't pick it.

I can't promise to not pull an Omegahugger princess version...
 
qwolfs said:
It's always amusing to see that when Thorgrim tries to make up with Belegar it goes completely sideways.

He tries to talk with Mathilde after she frees Vlag, but just misses her. He sends workers to help rebuild the Karak, but there are massive tension with the dwarfs there. He tries to make a positive speech, praising their achievements, but doesn't attribute Mathilde's accomplishment, thereby stumbling right into Belegars own issue of not crediting Mathilde and asking her to keep Thorgrims "die well" message private.

Every time he tries time and space bend over backwards to cut him off at the knees. Almost makes me suspect some kind of Tzeentch-ian plot
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I mean, we didn't see belegars reaction to this, it's entirely possible he makes the necessary mental connections and doesn't default to the thread's immediate perception
 
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