Wasn't the fungus. No huge infected middenland army + it was on our side

Did torroar clarify that? That it wasn't the fungi? I mean, if not then I still get the logic. It's just that there were enough clues to imply it was the fungus. That they came from below. That it was in the Middle Mountains. That it would have coincided near enough to the timeline. I also think at least 1 year is enough that the changes would have let the turned shed the trappings of their allegiances unless they were inhuman.
 
@torroar, Are the death twins, their teacher and whoever or whatever else might still be with those two, still present or have they left for other places?

As for Freddie, One of his routes home after he escapes might take him through Kislev so he might or might not get involved in Kislev's affairs anyway. But that remains to be seen. He did promise to stay out of their affairs so it will probably be okay for him to pass through on the way home as long as he doesn't interfere in Kislev's affairs outside of anything that might cross his path.

Speaking of Freddie and co, I wonder if the news of the two black arks landing on Sakaltan and one escaping while the other was captured reached kislev by now.
 
Does anyone remember the situation with Kattarin? Last I remember she'd been kidnapped by skaven but I don't know how far back to go to refresh
Iirc last we saw of her she was encased in ice and being carted off by the Skaven, likely for them to perform horrific experiments on her. But she is also being tracked by the Lahmians who want to make her their puppet queen, and nominally by the Loyalists who are currently too busy in the Thunderdome to dedicate too much time to it.
 
@torroar, Are the death twins, their teacher and whoever or whatever else might still be with those two, still present or have they left for other places?
With the 'mercenaries', which are not there because Alexandra is sending a political message, maybe will get a interlude of their own.

Possibly the twins were sent after Kattarin.
 
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Skaven and Vampires and Beastmen and human traitors, oh my!

How many Skaven are operating in Kislev??? There's like 2 separate armies mentioned here, and then the group that have Kattarin captive, and they're all just wandering about above ground fighting openly? What the heck is going on with the Skaven right now?

As mentioned, there are multiple Skaven groups active at this point. Some Skaven boiled up from the underground as they sometimes do, in all three major cities. Which meant Bohka and Romanov loyalists fighting them, as well as separatists and vampires and others besides. Some Skaven are there for warpstone hunting, others want materials for experiments, others are happy to simply kill and loot the disgusting no-furs. Skaven are okay fighting above ground when necessary. Material gathering and good old no-fur killing are things they're okay doing it for. Especially in a nation currently in major frenzy and communication breakdown.

@torroar curious, are Agatha and Alisa, their Master Draken, and their own forces, the ogres they got from Karak Kadrin, fighting elsewhere since they aren't mentioned being here in present battle? Maybe sent on mission to track down Tzarina or some other threat?
@torroar, Are the death twins, their teacher and whoever or whatever else might still be with those two, still present or have they left for other places?

As mentioned in the update, she pushed many mercenaries to rear guard positions that were more likely for them to accept at this point thanks to the sheer ferocity of the fighting and a lingering powerful winter. The native troops of Kislv are much more capable in worse Kislevite weather than many of the mercenaries. Better for them to be given jobs that are not as likely to strain the bounds of their contracts and self preservation instincts. Also, necromancers and vampires have revealed themselves, it is true. And that's something that the Amethyst College is quite opposed to. There's more than just this battlefield.
 
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Speaking of Skaven and whatever state Kattarin is in after… however many months or years it's been by now, the new OC has me suspicious.
"DIE, KATTARIN-SLAVE, DIE!" Raglef Frosthoof shrieked at Alexandra in guttural Kislevite, the horrific transformation that the shaman had suffered at some point in the past unable to stop the distinct courtly accent that some of the words still managed to possess.
I'm just saying, that sentence structure is a lot like what a Skaven would say. Especially since this thing has not just curled horns, but a snout.

Floating an idea here: maybe the Horned Rat gave the Green Moon a helping hand?
 
Not really, beastmen speech and turnskins often have similat degradation (at least if my knowledge in shamanslayer is correct.)

But as of now, Kislev is really on their own and at leaat yellow fang conspiracy loosen parts of the Bokha grip.

The vampires certainly threw things in a loop, but at least the death twins as there to assist her.

Real problem for Alexandra is getting everything stable enough to rescue Kattarin, otherwise she might as well be dead, or wished she was
 
A word seems to be missing here @torroar.

Yep! My mistake. Fixing, appreciated.

if we some can, i want to give Alexandra more ogres to be her bodyguards

She does have her hulking black-armored ogre Kreml Guards, but for the moment they're dedicated to guarding the full-blooded Romanovs that Alexandra has managed to find and rescue and return to Kislev the city.

The saboteurs might have managed to wipe out one branch, but Kattarin had multiple children after all.
 
Hrrm. I suppose even Kislev was caught in the destruction tide…
How far-flung is the devastation? Does Tilea still stand? What of Brettonia?…
 
if we some can, i want to give Alexandra more ogres to be her bodyguards

Possible and likely helpful.

She has her own personal brute squad of heavily armed and armored Ogres that have grown extremely disciplined over the years.

It doesn't seem like they've taken losses, but we don't know and more Ogres only hurts if you lack the means to feed them.
 
Plus side to this is that Alexandra has rescued some full blooded members of kattarin's family. so there's no danger of Alexandra having to become Tsarina. Whether or not those Romanovs are amenable to her and won't plot against her remains to be seen.
 
Plus side to this is that Alexandra has rescued some full blooded members of kattarin's family. so there's no danger of Alexandra having to become Tsarina. Whether or not those Romanovs are amenable to her and won't plot against her remains to be seen.
From what I vaguely recall she was on friendly terms with the Romanovs branch's that didn't go traitor. Then again that was pre civil war and things can change.
 
As mentioned, there are multiple Skaven groups active at this point. Some Skaven boiled up from the underground as they sometimes do, in all three major cities.
That's not good, since according to Under-Empire map skaven should only have tunnels connecting to Kislev city and some close to Praag at this time. So that likely means due to growth of a stronger overall Kislev they must have increased their efforts to set up their own settlements under their three main cities.

I wonder if Kat was aware of the existential threat skaven posed beforehand, since if not that means likely didn't make much effort in setting up an anti-skaven force to help keep their expansion down.

Either way, after this experience I hope they do and see about clearing out rat nests underneath cities.
There's more than just this battlefield.
Figured that was case, just checking.

Curious how Alexandra is getting along with her youngest sisters and their teacher, and how the native Kislevities are handling them since on the one hand they are female magic users, but on the other they use death magic and likely freak a few people out.
She does have her hulking black-armored ogre Kreml Guards, but for the moment they're dedicated to guarding the full-blooded Romanovs that Alexandra has managed to find and rescue and return to Kislev the city.

The saboteurs might have managed to wipe out one branch, but Kattarin had multiple children after all.
That's good to hear, so at least Kislev has a backup plan in case Kat can't be successfully rescued.

Curious, does this include the rebellious son and his family? Or were they killed as traitors/still fighting?
 
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. . .

So the son of Kattarin who survived? The traitor one?

I wish him the most cruel of all outcomes once more.

I wish him to survive, to live to see the end of this bloodsoaked nightmare, knowing he played a major part in it.

And to live a long, long time with that knowledge in his mind.
 
So the son of Kattarin who survived? The traitor one?
No idea if he has yet, GM just said that one family was successfully recovered and taken back to capital. Didn't say which.

I do agree that one that rebelled, if they survive, will feel pretty stupid about being manipulated by vampires and such to throw their country into chaos.
 
No idea if he has yet, GM just said that one family was successfully recovered and taken back to capital. Didn't say which.

I do agree that one that rebelled, if they survive, will feel pretty stupid about being manipulated by vampires and such to throw their country into chaos.
Sure but considered the kind of person and path his mother was on a conflict was coming it just so happend bad elements took easy advantage of it

And we where i believed told kattarin was working to start a civil war on purpose a long time ago if i remember that right
 
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