Black Noise
Curious
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- About 1AU from Sol
Art cultivation is mostly fine. Base would be nice however.
Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
- Thread starter yrsillar
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- Location
- At the end of the world
I think it's possible - maybe we can find something like Great Argent Vent long before getting one with advanced rank.
- Location
- Cali
Best would probably be something that gives Art overflow/success into base like the Grove.
Grove of Thirty Three: Multiplies the successes of Wood Art cultivation by 1.2. In addition add 1/10 of the successes of arts containing physical attribute keywords to physical cultivation
- Location
- United States of America
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- At the end of the world
Lets see... We get Grove after rolling 81. That means we can get something better if we roll 90 or more.
And this
will help us.
P.S.: Don't forget about events, we were unlucky with our first one, but now we will have scouting information, so it worth trying.
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- United States of America
I do think that people are valuing Sect jobs over exploration actions. And there is a couple of valid reasons for that. There is a more concrete benefit to Sect Jobs since they give a minimum amount of Sect points which can be traded for pills that we know have potent effects. Additionally, there is a reduced exploration roll for sect jobs, which makes it seem like they are a sort of pseudo exploration action.
That being said, I value the exploration action more myself. While there is more steadiness in the Sect job action, the exploration action allows for two exploration rolls and an exploration roll has a much higher potential reward. We don't know exactly what is out there, but sites/talismans/and potentially pills is a good bet. I just feel that dismissing exploration rolls because of the risk and uncertainty is a bit premature.
That being said, I value the exploration action more myself. While there is more steadiness in the Sect job action, the exploration action allows for two exploration rolls and an exploration roll has a much higher potential reward. We don't know exactly what is out there, but sites/talismans/and potentially pills is a good bet. I just feel that dismissing exploration rolls because of the risk and uncertainty is a bit premature.
Sure. But you CAN approximate. Nobody was asking you for perfect predictions; that would be silly.
...I'm not sure what you are asking. I'm willing to give up everything ENM gives us in the short term; otherwise I'd be trying to train ENM instead of trying to NOT train ENM. Are you asking me to list the advantages of ENM? That seems to be something that one would do when defending ENM, which is your position, not mine.
As for the specific opportunity costs you mentioned:
- I don't think training Fade B is urgent
- I suspect that ENM would not give us enough of a stealth boost for our stealth to be competitive with our dueling capability
Okay. Of these, I think that Ling Qi is reasonably likely to pick up a Social or Spirit Ken Art at some point. If are okay permanently losing one such art, I think that is a legitimate place to target for cuts. To be clear, then, you are okay losing a Social/Spirit Ken art within the next 1-2 years if it means we have ENM. Correct?
- Location
- At the end of the world
Agree, besides with +5 to exploration dice and scouting information for events we have more guarantee of success.
Ha! Maybe we will even find new mentor. There is still Dragon Mother somewhere.
- Location
- Cali
Agree, besides with +5 to exploration dice and scouting information for events we have more guarantee of success.
Ha! Maybe we will even find new mentor. There is still Dragon Mother somewhere.
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- At the end of the world
Why not? It seems like fun if a little crazy thing to do.:lol
On unrelated note i am interested in what Cai Archive Arts looks like? Would we get MoonLight Arts? Or maybe NightHeaven Arts? Curious...
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
Please not more elements please not more elementsWhy not? It seems like fun if a little crazy thing to do.:lol
On unrelated note i am interested in what Cai Archive Arts looks like? Would we get MoonLight Arts? Or maybe NightHeaven Arts? Curious...
Uh, the Domain Weapon choice debate aside, Ji Rong's weapon is extremely good for his fighting style?
He has a very effective Heaven based melee rushdown build. To the extent that barring getting significantly better art windfalls, his attack power significantly exceeds his defense.
He has two main vulnerabilities inherent to his strategy:
1) Running out of qi. His Domain Weapon gives him a significant recharge, which, if you were a rushdown specialist and STILL ran out before a takedown...well you're just outclassed or the opponent is running qi-exhaustion strategies.
2) Being taken out by the opponent before you reach them. A defensive weapon ensures this because against lesser opponents they'd be unable to hit him until he goes in for the beatdown. Against a peer, his domain weapon is stuck clashing against theirs anyway, and thus not relevant, whether attack or defense.
His mistake, such as it were, was joining the losing team and thus losing resources and time he could have gotten stronger in. The fight was lost because nobody realized Ling Qi was defensively strong enough to tank Liling herself for a time.
And he very nearly did rushdown Ling Qi. It was down to nearly a coinflip at the end. If his domain weapon buffed his attack instead of giving a recharge he'd have dropped out of the fight before then.
Ling Qi: *Plays BGM* "What, its optimal."
Naw, look at it proportionally:
-We gained a lot of Music Meridians
-We gained a lot of Moon Meridians
Ling Qi is normalizing her elements by converting everything into Moon over time.
Oh right and the review I forgot.
Foundations of a Motive huh?
Okay...I think I get why Zeqing said we shouldn't take both Lonely Winter Maiden and Frozen Soul Serenade.
Too much like her, not necessarily dangerous in its own right, but that she cannot resist the call of MINE anymore after that.
On one hand, that sounds a lot like Zeqing's pushing towards a tribulation of her own. Rather than her life, its more her heart at stake. Can she learn to let go, or will she make herself alone once more?
On the other she loves to teach and guide.
Ling Qi: "Hanyi, don't you dare scare me like Sixiang did."
Sixiang: "I learned that from you, you know."
Meizhen: "Feel my pain."
*Tsuns*
She can't even visit his bedroom! Its too on fire!
Probably should do that soon, but so many things are on the table...
I really like this for the concept and themes. Spring follows winter!
...Libera Me(TTGL)?
Ling Qi, you were already carelessly freezing things since you made Green.
Certainly more notable now though.
And I see even the ice has glitter.
Well, now we get to see the Argent Mirror insight in fluff form. I like it!
Also Ling Qi now radiates an aura of Protecc.
I wonder if the mist of FVM or the zone of HDW would count as a "my space" for the social perception bonus.
Sort of like Argent Mirror huh?
Spring to Summer to Fall and then Winter next probably.
Though reading the effects...you might come to the conclusion that Ling Qi is working on ways to introduce her other friends to Meizhen because she's getting a LOT of stuff which could protect her Rank 4 friends from the Absolute Terror field.
I would give at least even odds that the loss penalty for the upcoming Tribulation is "get eaten by Zeqing". Hell, I half-expect the form of the Tribulation to be fighting off Zeqing's attempt to bind/absorb us.
It has a certain internal authenticity that I can see Zeqing to get the different parts of herself to compromise. We get a chance keep our existence as a human cultivator if we can prove the worth of said existence; and if can't provide that proof, then it means Zeqing's instincts were right and we are better off as part of her anyways.
So what you're saying is that we win either way
A year ago, that would have been true. Now? We would have something of a problem, what with us having sworn fealty to a Ducal family and everything.So what you're saying is that we win either way
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- United Kingdom
I'm still hoping for a wind site, particularly for AFL. I guess Sixiang might get some use out of it as well?
The thing is that as a rushdown specialist, running out of qi is a very secondary concern. If you are trying to win a fight in two or three turn, it's very unlikely you are gonna run out of qi in that time.
A domain weapon can perfectly well be relevant even without attacking the ennemy (by providing support like ours do or providing some kind of attack boost).
Such a sword would have been far better for a rushdown specialist because it would have enhanced his game plan of beating us up in two three turn.
Ironically, that mirror sword would have been perfect for us, as it would have enhanced ou game plan of winning in a dozen turns by providing more survavibility in the starting turns.
Now let's talk about something a bit different. Which is to say archive 1 art, because I love hurting myself.
This art (despite the fact that we are never gonna train it), fit us quite well now. The first tech is good and has been since we found that art, but the strong tech here is welcoming in shadow. This being because of how well it combo with fss finisher, providing both a way to prevent the ennemy from running away and significant defenses.
Now what I hope for is that Hanyi has some equivalent techs, because it would help her significantly in her cute murder ice kid assassin role we want her to take.
Uh dude, he ran out of qi that fight. Thats why he popped his domain weapon for a recharge.
Nope he popped it to get his health back.
- Location
- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
That is sorta of the point. If a rush down strat doesn't do enough damage in the first couple of actions then your unlikely to win. Running out of qi is not a concern for people who focus on rush down because they have lost way before they are in much danger of qi exhaustion.
Ji Rong's domain weapon's idea is to try a complete reset of him so he can try to finish the job. It just won't work if he didn't do enough damage in the first round as seen in our fight with him. If Ji Rong triggers his domain weapon then he is about to win or he has lost.
Personally I believe that a more offensive domain weapon would suit his rush down strat better. Trying to force as much damage in the first 2 turns is critical for those types of builds and his decision to make a defensive weapon seems like a poor choice to me. It screams to me of a person who is not confident enough about his tactics to go all in.
Perhaps his rush down tactic is simply because he is too far away from his dream. He may have wanted to do a more balanced tactic but decided that with the limited time and resources to get into the inner sect going for a quick and dirty rush down tactic would be his best bet. Then for his domain weapon he got something that would benefit his future style.
This is complete speculation but we know now that there is more depth to him with him exploring law but we will see what ends up happening with him.
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- France
I mean, Ji Rong.... doesn't have a rush down style.
I don't know why people like saying he has one when in every fights we have seen from him, he has shown a ramp up style. He has significant offence/defence skewed ratio, but that doesn't mean he has rushed down style.
As for his actual stats:
I don't know why people like saying he has one when in every fights we have seen from him, he has shown a ramp up style. He has significant offence/defence skewed ratio, but that doesn't mean he has rushed down style.
- In the Gan Guangli ambush, he was the one rushed down, but WoG was that if he had longer to ramp up the fight would have gone differently.
- In the Prelims, the first few turns were him being almost hurt and not so good at offence, but then he began one-shotting everything and dodging everything, with each turns giving him more damage and finishing with a big boom against GG.
- Against Ling Qi, he began with middling damage, went to 'more damage than Sun Liling', and before he was caught he was at "significantly more damage than Sun Liling".
As for his actual stats:
I'll note that he has more Qi than Sun Liling, and his health isn't bad at all. His avoid is also better than ours was until we got Sable Grace (and this was outdated back in the second turn, so it might be his tournament stats), so it's not like his defence is bad, it's just that his offence is really good.
That's more of a consequence of the system than him being focused on ramping up. Finisher techs come after other techs after all.
He very quickly reach his top power (that we saw in our fight against him) and then proceed to stall power level wise. (His super sayan move helped him hurt us despite us growing stronger but it wasn't something that made him stronger for the length of the fight)
It's not a ramp up style, no more than someone using FSS exclusively has a ramp up style, despite the damage growing swiftly there too.
JR has a very strong early fight power but after a few actions it cap and he can't go further. This is why he need to beat the ennemy swiftly (and thus rush them down). It's very visible in how he fight, he doesn't try to build up a ramp up, as evidenced by him hitting no one else in the fights with us or the preliminaries but beelining toward us and GG. Compare this to another ramp up character, Han Fang, who spent his time beating up yellows to get stronger.
I am not sure I am very clear here, I am quite tired, please ask me to rephrase in case it is not clear.
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- Europe
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Do you think the only ramp up style that counts is one that does so Infinitely?
Because if so we are very unlikely to ever encounter one. Maybe white could do that, but even then it seems unlikely.