Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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I think we need to accept the fact that the polar theocracy is really unhappy at what just happened and we need to make it up to them. Their request is more than reasonable in my opinion, as we just had high level cultivators battle to the death on their doorsteps. Had it not been contained it could have led to a minor rebellion if not a civil war. Don't forget we're already fighting a two-pronged war against two other separate entities who have joined together against us. We already look like a slightly unstable neighbor and this doesn't make it better in any shape or form.
Losing the ministry and white plume points sucks. I really don't like it, but losing collectively three points is an acceptable cost of business. Not to mention both the ministry and the White plumes will still be relatively positive in their regard to us.
[x] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
Losing the ministry and white plume points sucks. I really don't like it, but losing collectively three points is an acceptable cost of business. Not to mention both the ministry and the White plumes will still be relatively positive in their regard to us.
[x] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
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I do think it will be worth us pointing out to them: the hostile sovereign did not act on his own; he pulled out of retirement by lower-realms ... you know, sort of like the Weeping Sentinel was.
[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
Yeah, let's just do it.
Mostly because it makes it impossible for anyone to argue against having a Foreign Quarter.
Yeah, let's just do it.
Mostly because it makes it impossible for anyone to argue against having a Foreign Quarter.
The fact that the Emerald Seas counts don't see it as a big deal is probably down to the fact that it's not their security vulnerability or commitment. It's a Cai problem. The Wang are the closest, but they've also got the Argent Sect right there, so it's not a huge deal.
Amusingly, the most exposed folks to a White Sky power concentration, besides those actually in the Summit Town itself, is... us. Snowblossom will be the closest settlement of the Emerald Seas to the Weeping Sentinel. Woohoo. Got our skin in the game and whatnot. It's a solid rhetorical lever, though it doesn't nudge the cold calculus of military force, so it's understandable it doesn't sway the Heron General.
More broadly, there's a variety of factors that make it an acceptable sell to the counts. A big one is the Weeping Sentinel clearly has a defensive Way, and doesn't seem particularly mobile. She was moved here, yeah, but just doesn't come off as nimble. These two things make her and her retinue more palatable as a nearby presence, even if they're not ideal. Then there's the fact that the Summit Town is a lot closer to our borders than it is to White Sky borders- it's not unreasonable for them to want to have a stronger force on-hand to deal with any crisis that might arise, since they're substantially further from backup.
...Disregarding the White Sky Federation's Nomad forces, but I think the Emerald Seas wouldn't be excited to see those flying in as a rapid response force, heh.
Amusingly, the most exposed folks to a White Sky power concentration, besides those actually in the Summit Town itself, is... us. Snowblossom will be the closest settlement of the Emerald Seas to the Weeping Sentinel. Woohoo. Got our skin in the game and whatnot. It's a solid rhetorical lever, though it doesn't nudge the cold calculus of military force, so it's understandable it doesn't sway the Heron General.
More broadly, there's a variety of factors that make it an acceptable sell to the counts. A big one is the Weeping Sentinel clearly has a defensive Way, and doesn't seem particularly mobile. She was moved here, yeah, but just doesn't come off as nimble. These two things make her and her retinue more palatable as a nearby presence, even if they're not ideal. Then there's the fact that the Summit Town is a lot closer to our borders than it is to White Sky borders- it's not unreasonable for them to want to have a stronger force on-hand to deal with any crisis that might arise, since they're substantially further from backup.
...Disregarding the White Sky Federation's Nomad forces, but I think the Emerald Seas wouldn't be excited to see those flying in as a rapid response force, heh.
I looked, and it looks like somebody asked in the discord after this post. But forgot to share.
Yrsillar on Discord said:
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Alright, I've been convinced. Not that it really matters, but hey.
[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)
I asked Yrsillar on the discord server whether the WP disliked the Weeping Haven bringing their full court along with them because the ES would reply in kind and that'd tie up war assets, or because they didn't like more concentration of foreign forces near the empire. He said it was the latter.
EDIT: Huh, didn't see that AbeoLogos already mentioned that. Thanks AbeoLogos!
I asked Yrsillar on the discord server whether the WP disliked the Weeping Haven bringing their full court along with them because the ES would reply in kind and that'd tie up war assets, or because they didn't like more concentration of foreign forces near the empire. He said it was the latter.
EDIT: Huh, didn't see that AbeoLogos already mentioned that. Thanks AbeoLogos!
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Akchually, the embassy town was built as a logistical node for anti-barbarian operation (that was the pretext used to even build something there), so the first peoples endangered by the WS force concentration would be whatever soldiers are guarding it, plus the priest,astronomers, formation makers, judges and their staff we want to get there.
[X] Use your momentum to push for a greater allowance for security forces and their support as well as more of their security infrastructure in the valley (+2 White Sky Favorability, -1 Ministry Favorability)
I think it's even more hilarious because they wanted "better prospects". Than being the number 2 for a ducal heir. At Green. Which soon become number 1 with Gan's failure. Funny enough, hiring on with Sun would've ended up with a pretty similar position (even including the Evil Parent Figure doing Sketchy Things to empower the heir and also giving them mental issues!), as good ol Thunder Boy demonstrated. No other way, given that there generally aren't ducal heirs at Green in the first place. But between the two, I think we got the better one.
Cao Chun and the Polar Theocracy: "We could not possibly accept a foreign quarter/having so many of our people live next to these unstable maniacs!"
Ling Qi: "But the foreign quarter already exists in all but name."
Cao Chun and the Polar Theocracy:
It might even be like the theological vote where none of the options had a Ministry of Integrity penalty, because in their slippery slope view the worst had already happened.
[X] Use your momentum to push for a greater allowance for security forces and their support as well as more of their security infrastructure in the valley (+2 White Sky Favorability, -1 Ministry Favorability)
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In a surprising twist, it turns out that there is a maximum amount of disapproval you can fit into a single ministry, and we already hit it.Cao Chun and the Polar Theocracy: "We could not possibly accept a foreign quarter/having so many of our people live next to these unstable maniacs!"
Ling Qi: "But the foreign quarter already exists in all but name."
Cao Chun and the Polar Theocracy:
It might even be like the theological vote where none of the options had a Ministry of Integrity penalty, because in their slippery slope view the worst had already happened.
"I think your culture is absolutely nuts, but there's no denying you've got ovaries of steel, girl."
Birbs and sketches
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Sketches, on iPad this time; did some on the train, before classes started, while waiting for work stuff to happen etc. Formatting on it is a pain :<
Not sure if I understood xuanji's eye bit :/ felt like changing it up w a high contrast graphical thing
I recall Yrs encouraged the penguin vs chicken war lol. Had to google image for a few of these
general giving qi a haircut w unlimited scissors work, qi liking crx's outfit and pose, qingge and qi interaction.
Edit: reuploaded sketches to fix layer shift
Edit: reuploaded sketches to fix layer shift
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[X] Fully support White Sky desires including the emplacement of their sovereigns full court on a permanent basis (+2 White Sky Favorabilty, +1 Polar Theocracy favorability, -1 Ministry and -2 White Plume favorability.)