Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Looks like Xia Lin has complicated feelings about Xia Ren's decision. It's obvious to us that Xia Ren's doing it to further sever the clan from its traditions, and it ought to be clear to Xia Lin as well.

Something that stands out to me when thinking about it is that Xia Lin herself essentially embarked on the same journey, by choice, that her clan's being set to by the general. Xia Lin moved from down south to live on the outskirts of the roots when she joined up with the White Plume, and maybe a bit earlier for training purposes? That has to weigh into her thoughts on the whole thing. She's a woman of two homes, who deliberately chose the second, and now it's a choice being made for the rest of her family. In terms of identity, it's a bit of a mess.

Also, typo roundup:

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The trader caravans they're allowed to do in limited amounts apparently count, so the boundary for "new things" can't be THAT constrained by settlement and development. It really does mostly sound like it's the reservation thing.
It only has to be new to the individual.
Which means you want a diversity of culture and environments.

Pretty much wants a Pokemon Journey sort of thing...which a feudal system really dislikes, given how much of it is built around strong fences.
 
I wonder if this development is going to push Xia Lin to pursue the branch clan idea I've seen floated here and there. Basically, gathering up some fellow skeptics and setting up tent at Shenglu, for a measure of independence/freedom. Defending the southern-most settlement (not counting Xin'an, it's weird) is respectable enough they've got a decent shot at being allowed, especially since Xia Ren's main priority seems to be yoinking them off their old land.

Shenglu is still a test for Renxiang, of course, so I wouldn't expect being allowed to poach even mid-Greens from the main Xia, if she wants to go that route.
 
Paper Star 2
She listened to her own ragged breathing and felt the boiling heat of the seams in her soul, where dress and girl were bound. What she did not do was obey immediately. Disrespectful. It would have been Mother's right to chastise her harshly.

The radiance enveloped her, shining and without any more force than its mere presence conveyed. She was a bent and cracked doll. With Mother's simple words, she could not deny the truth that had been explained to her. Not so easily.

Truth seared. The cascade of self-recrimination for her internal lies it had released did not stop. She was a frightened, uncertain girl, grasping at the threads of the world, and trying to make sense of them. She wanted, desperately just once to have genuine kindness from the woman before her. An insipid and childish yearning, she should have long grown passed it. Her steel, as always needed yet more polish. But, so too was she Cai Renxiang, and if pain and hurt and disappointment could stop the hands of the clock then she would have ground to stillness long before now.

Dirt and gravel scraped under her feet as she straightened, and a grinding metallic whine echoed across the cliff as she dragged Cifeng's scabbard out of the rock.

Mother, she decided, looked far more absurd than usual. As if to contrast the way Renxiang herself had changed, Cai Shenhua's gown was a flowing and dense wrap of many layers, of lace and fluttering ribbons, her dark hair drifting about her head in countless thin, smooth braids like black silk, shining from within from her light, like a lady of the imperial courts magnified to a towering loom.

Except of course the deep slashes separating the sleeves from the chest, exposing muscular arms, the high cut up the side of the gown, exposing ankle and calf, and high riders heels as sharp and long as daggers.

She fixed her eyes on lips painted the color of fresh blood, not trusting herself to look higher still, even now.

"The summit achieved full success. In tandem with the Emissaries of the Polar Nation, the bones of peace and negotiation were laid down. Though we suffered the attack of a traitor, which I must assume my honored Mother knows far more than I."

"Amusing summation," Mother chuckled. "Indeed. My visit to the fens was informative. Perhaps I shall tell it to you in time, daughter. But it is not like you to dodge. You were always a straightforward girl."

"I merely organize my thoughts," Cai Renxiang said slowly. Because they were still struggling and scattered, seared of the clinging shadows preconceptions she had not even recognized."

"The Polar Nation has a great potential danger to the Empire. Their ways of organization and thoughts on authority are alien to us, much more than they seem on the surface. I cannot clearly see how conflict may be completely avoided in the long term."

"Hoh? You too regard this as a ruse to buy time for us to deal with the troublesome folk under our feet then?" Mother asked.

She focused and circulated qi to keep her eyes from watering, from sizzling under the light.

"I do not see it. But the eyes of those I trust do.," Cai Renxiang said.

A single, long fingernail pressed against her forehead. Prickling at her skin, but no more. "Do explain."

"...Their order is immersed in the submission of self to the aggregate. I have heard words of those thinking there are similarities… the focus on written law and codified tradition, but I find this cosmetic. They find cultivators such as Mother a viscerally repulsive thing."

She did not know that they were wrong.

"Hoh? How interesting. It seems there is some wisdom among these frozen folk," Cai Shenhua mused, tapping her chin. "Still… a fragile belief. The man who chooses to set aside the sword may only live so long as no foe chooses to run him through. I am curious as too how this persists… and what blades have protected them, such a deep belief, persisting for so long, cannot be mere naivety."

Cai Renxiang did not reply, for she could not find anything useful to add to her mother's words. Even without plunging into her mind, Mother took so much more than the words she spoke aloud from her.

"Can dialogue persist when one side is so fundamentally unsettling to the other? My retainers believe so, through constant social maintenance and dialogue," Cai Renxiang continued instead. "In this, I believe that it is my vision that is lacking. If we can codify our interactions as the Empire does, if we may arrange regular low-level contact, if we may maintain investment in the south being a quiet place…"

"For a cultivator's generation, two or even three, but as beards grow long and the flesh spun over dantians grow thin... So long as the memory of Ogodei remains, such a vision can be sold, made a truth," Cai Shenhua said idly. "Longer… hah."

"My retainer once said a master diviner once told them that any who claim a vision of such far removes are charlatans or fools."

Mother made a small amused sound. "That one is still scribbling things in the margins of fate's book? Unsurprising, but amusing indeed."

The pressure and intensity of the light only grew, and Cai Renxiang's breath hitched in her throat before it subsided.

"The future cannot paralyze the present, this I grant. Continue your thoughts Renxiang."

She breathed out harshly. "My doubts only rise under your light. I have haggled law with their emissaries and traded points on the minutiae of documentation. No different than I have with other scholars. If this business breaks down, if it fails, it will be from the chaos of individual actors, not some inherent difference. This was the correct action…

And even beyond it, the southern Emerald Seas was able to present a unified image, it is small, but the cooperation among them will grow with time and the focus on the mountains."

And the conflict with the Cloud. She knew that troubled Ling Qi. She agreed in principle, that war and death were wasteful investments, best avoided, but she was also heir to the Emerald Seas, its people were her priority in all things. She was by her privilege, responsible for every attack, every raid, every death.

"I see," Mother said, withdrawing the finger pressed to her forehead, her mother strode past her, looking out over the mist-filled vales as Cai Renxiang had.

"These foreigners, you got some of that strange answer from them, didn't you? Bound… explain these words more clearly. I will hear them."

She swallowed thickly, fear rising in her heart again. "The Thrones of Heaven are impure and unjust. Heaven is wrong. These are your words, Mother."

Cai Shenhua gestured for her to continue, the radiance of her eyes burning away the mist wherever her gaze roved, exposing the valley to pitiless light.

"I do not see a path by which all who rule can be made virtuous," Cai Renxiang said slowly. "Encouraged, educated, given every chance to virtue, and people… people will still sin."

She had truly believed otherwise, but she had grown less sure. She was certain her path was still the one that best minimized this.

"So if those who would sit those thrones cannot be guaranteed to virtue, they must be bound to it, as intrinsically as time takes all in the end."

"And who wields those strings which bind them, darling? Do you foolishly dream that it is anything but their lack of reach that makes weak men any less cruel than strong ones?" Cai Shenhua asked, lax and languid, as if she was making a careless joke.

She did not yet have an answer for that. This was something she had only just begun to mull.

The beat of silence stretched between them.

"Well if you had been quick to answer, I might have had to check your stitching despite your squirming," Mother chuckled. "Do be diligent daughter. I will look forward to seeing what strings you spin for yourself."
 
If Shenhua wishes to be defeated, then this interrogation may be her version of "helping" Renxiang avoid developing heart demons during a crucial stage in her development. Whatever Path Renxiang develops to usurp her mother will need to both withstand Shenhua's "Celestial Truth" AND improve the Emerald Seas in a way that Shenhua would have to admit that she cannot bend enough to accommodate.
 
"So if those who would sit those thrones cannot be guaranteed to virtue, they must be bound to it, as intrinsically as time takes all in the end."
And here we may see Renxiang's ascension goal. Either becoming some sort of empowered constitution that binds the leaders of the Emerald seas to follow, much like the ministry of integrity is bound to spirits that will kill them if they become corrupt, or perhaps even a sublime clothing spirit that does that that the dukes and duchesses must wear. A ducal regalia that prevents corruption.
 
If Shenhua wishes to be defeated, then this interrogation may be her version of "helping" Renxiang avoid developing heart demons during a crucial stage in her development. Whatever Path Renxiang develops to usurp her mother will need to both withstand Shenhua's "Celestial Truth" AND improve the Emerald Seas in a way that Shenhua would have to admit that she cannot bend enough to accommodate.
Yeah, despite the uh….manner is which these 'questions' are 'asked', its reasonably clear that this is an attempt to…assist Renxiang with developing a strong foundation for her domain, and either prevent or minimize issues that could arise from it. As well as solidify her determination on how she wants to deal with things going forward.
 
The beat of silence stretched between them.

"Well if you had been quick to answer, I might have had to check your stitching despite your squirming," Mother chuckled. "Do be diligent daughter. I will look forward to seeing what strings you spin for yourself."
As always, despite how "helpful" and "kind" is fucking scary as all hell
 
"Hoh? How interesting. It seems there is some wisdom among these frozen folk," Cai Shenhua mused, tapping her chin. "Still… a fragile belief. The man who chooses to set aside the sword may only live so long as no foe chooses to run him through. I am curious as too how this persists… and what blades have protected them, such a deep belief, persisting for so long, cannot be mere naivety."
"Well the last guy who tried to upset the apple cart got gibbleblastfucked by the Crone and Sudica."
 
I really like Renxiang. She's do deeply broken and has such incredible strength; to have this conversation with her mother? Wow.
 
Cai Renxiang: "Ling Qi, I require you to compose a report expanding on your confidence in a lasting peace with the Polar Nations in greater detail."

Ling Qi: "My what?"
 
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"The future cannot paralyze the present, this I grant. Continue your thoughts Renxiang."

"So if those who would sit those thrones cannot be guaranteed to virtue, they must be bound to it, as intrinsically as time takes all in the end."

See, these two statements....

The future can't paralyze the present, but by the same token the present can't bind the future. It will always be the prerogative of present to decide what corruption is in the present, and of the future to define what corruption is in the future. To decide what virtue is.

Shenhua asks who will hold the strings, and there are many answers, but the one thing that can't hold the strings is the past.
 
But, so too was she Cai Renxiang, and if pain and hurt and disappointment could stop the hands of the clock then she would have ground to stillness long before now.

I wonder if CRX, or Shenhua for that matter, has TIME as part of her cultivation, if it's a necessary component of PROGRESS.

Time may be linear, but progress isn't always, hmmm hmmmmm

"The future cannot paralyze the present, this I grant. Continue your thoughts Renxiang."

Holding her own against Mammy with tools gathered from trusted sources. Git'em CRX!
 
And here we may see Renxiang's ascension goal. Either becoming some sort of empowered constitution that binds the leaders of the Emerald seas to follow, much like the ministry of integrity is bound to spirits that will kill them if they become corrupt, or perhaps even a sublime clothing spirit that does that that the dukes and duchesses must wear. A ducal regalia that prevents corruption.
Is CRX on her Way to become a Mandate of HEAVEN?
 
Is CRX on her Way to become a Mandate of HEAVEN?
It is probably closer to what Shenhua is, no?
Big find out session, if you fucked around too much...
Renxiang feels more like some small nudges in the right direction... Well, who knows, GS and their previous mortal form have weird relationship and effects.

They probably would work well in pair - Renxiang's influence ensure that there is always some sort of minor incentive to continue being virtuous, and Shenhua's coming out when someone needs to be struck down for abuses they comitted.
 
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I think it's more a transition to Constitutional Rulership rather than absolutism. "The Ruler has obligations and responsibilities that are enforced in exchange for their authority" rather than "The only limitations are the ones I willingly abide by"
 
Sounds like Renxiang might just be looking at incorporating some elements of Polar Theocracy into her jurisprudence. She likes the No Kings rule, and I think of all the Top 20 in the Empire (as a Ducal Heir, she is definitely in that group) she's likely uniquely positioned to be open to the idea that unchecked personal power is bad.
 
Year 46 Month 1 Arc 1-3 New
The smell of woodsmoke and spicy sweet seasonings was very strong, hanging sooty and thick in the air even in the back of the restaurant. The clatter and sizzle of the chefs cooking away and the dull crackle of stoked flames mingled with the sounds of idle conversation. Ling Qi turned the metal skewer in her hands, observing the glistening red sauce that coated the cute cubes of seared meet with a weary eye. She could feel the embers of flame sleeping in the rich earthy qi of the beef and cut cubes of grilled mushrooms.

"Are you trying to give me Qi deviations, Xia Lin?"

"Do not be a coward, try your skewer. Take a bite of the mushroom cuts after the meat if the spice is too much, its absorbant," Xia Lin dismissed.

She supposed she could feel some motes of dark qi locked inside the seared cubes. She slid the skewer between her lips and bit off the first strip of meat.

"Danger, danger, the left flank pillow fort just caught fire!" Sixiang cackled.

She very deliberately took a bite of the mushroom as well and glared at Xia Lin. She would not give her the satisfaction of letting her eyes water.

Xia Lin was already halfway through her skewer, and she was dipping it in some kind of dark red sauce that made the hairs in her nose prickle when she inhaled.

"It's not a flavor for every day, but I find it very bracing." Xia Lin said mildly, dabbing at her lip with a cloth.

"Remind me to have Cai Renxiang bring you to the next dinner with the Bai delegation," Ling Qi said, taking a deep swallow from the cider served with the meal.

"Will you? I've heard good things, but the Emerald Seas approximations of the recipes are poor, according to Lao Keung," she said guilelessly.

Ling Qi huffed and took another searing bite. The roof of her mouth was on fire. She wasn't even sure that was a metaphor. She'd give Xia Lin this round. But she was learning the art of grudges, this would not be forgotten.

"So, I'm meant to be taking these down right, making a list for you to read off from later?"

She wasn't that forgetful anymore.

"So yeah, I'll keep the list. Jot it in beside Renren's offenses."

She didn't have to put up with this. She would kick them back out.

"Aw c'mon, who'd keep your list then?"

"Your shadow is bothering the other customers," Xia Lin said mildly.

She glanced down at, a black outline miming strangling hands. She huffed and tugged on her qi, forcing it back to normal. Turning her eyes back to Xia Lin, she took another tentative bite.

"You are alright then?" she asked quietly. The scents remained strong, but the voices were very muted, here in the corner of the restaurant, there really was no one who could hear them.

Some of the good humor faded from Xia Lin's eyes. "I am. I was merely surprised by my Aunt making such a large move at this time… I should not have been though."

Ling Qi said nothing, letting the other girl collect her thoughts.

"It explains any things the lack of investments in our clan's lands, and the push for the younger generation to find careers in the wider province. As a final step…"

Ling Qi pursed her lips and remembered the searing flames of the crucible. The Breaker of Chains. Removing the Xia, once Sadala from their ancestral homes permanently was certainly shattering a chain. "What will happen to the old lands?"

"...I do not know. They were poor lands, never well developed, but there are cultivation sites of some value," Xia Lin said. "I do not know her mind well enough. Sold perhaps, allowed to rewild and become a beast hunting preserve?"

She said those things with such an uncaring air, but Ling Qi could not miss the upset brewing under the surface.

But, honestly, while your concern is appreciated, I would rather leave the matter aside. I… need to speak with some of my family on this," Xia Lin said, shaking her head.

"They would be welcome in Shenglu," Ling Qi said. "Though I understand that this really isn't better."

Xia Lin grunted in reply, and they ate in silence for another few moments.

"What are your thoughts on Madam Mei's investing advice?" Ling Qi asked.

"It's well matched builds on the general advice I have heard. Sponsoring a caravan for inter-settlement trade is safe enough even if we do not have the production at Shenglu for it to be home grown yet. There are always ambitious mortals and low cultivators looking for sponsorship."

"It seems so," Ling Qi said, resting her chin on her hands, her elbows somewhat rudely on the table. "I'd think it would mostly be done by local or higher clans, but I suppose it is a good way to invite friendship and connections with more distant families. I know why so many of my contacts have been implying offers as they have been now."

"Of course, that would be your response. I can never judge when your head is empty and when it is not," Xia Lin chuckled.

"What is that supposed to mean?" Ling Qi complained. Xia Lin stared at her. From the back of her head, Sixiang stared too.

She huffed to herself. "I liked the advice about gathering artisan cultivators better, that seems more fun."

"I do not think 'fun' is meant to be the point," Xia Lin said dryly. "But yes, Investing and indebting craftsmen is traditionally a route to success. Their cultivation is far more expensive, stage for stage, without a patron."

She thought of Li Suyin and the resources the Sect was pouring into her. She had to admit that was true. "So, have a particular chef in mind?"

"I would not be so frivolous," Xia Lin scoffed.

Ling Qi stared.

Xia Lin tilted her chin up. "I have not even had the chance to review any potential candidates. Unlike you, I am in no hurry to make arrangements on a whim."

"But you are going to invest in, what? A personal chef?"

"I will," Xia Lin shrugs. "An alchemist is a higher priority, but I don't see why I shouldn't."

Ling Qi turned over her skewer in her hand, rolling the thin metal between her thumb and forefinger. She was only halfway through. Her tongue still itched from the last bite. She took another, wincing. "It still seems strange you know. We don't need this at all."

"Doing only what is needed…" Xia Lin said, shaking her head. She was already finishing her skewer, savoring the final bite.

The crucible devoured all, leaving only raw metal burned free of impurity, free of frivolous things, ore for weapons pure and true.

Ling Qi swallowed her food. She was acclimating to the spice, there was a certain good feeling to the burn as it passed. It left her head feeling clear.
"Well then, you might be more patient than me, but what say you we go down and look at things. Madam Mei did say the Ministry of Commerce keeps lists of trading houses and individuals applying for sponsorship. You can keep me from jumping the starting horn, and I can give you a nudge to actually do something with your stones, what do you say?"

"I do not know how to predict what you will complain about and shirk and what you will dive on with both hands outstretched," Xia Lin said, rubbing her forehead.

"The difference is what lets her poke her nose into other people's business directly, and what's just filling out forms and making plans," Sixiangs voice said from over her shoulder, the muses qi creating sound in the still air.

Xia Lin blinked, cupping her chin thoughtfully as she set her skewer down. "...I see. Yes, that is a good explanation."

"No it isn't," Ling Qi defended.

Ling Qi. Are you seriously even gonna try and deny that?

She huffed. Real people were more interesting than paper and ink, but that didn't mean she was nosy the way Sixiang was implying.

Nosy? You. Never.

It wasn't untoward or spying if people just told you things.

Xia Lin was looking at her like she was floating away again. Ling Qi sighed. "..Well, I guess it's close enough."

"Close enough," Xia Lin echoed dubiously. "But I think should we go anywhere on this… trip a tour through the alchemy district or the artisian market would be better. Trade is important but those can be invested in closer to home. The artisans clamoring for notice in Xiangmen will tend to be less connected to local interests."

"That is a fair point," Ling Qi said. "All the same, there could definitely be a hidden gem or two, with the experience of the capital, but wanting to stake out their roots in less overgrown gardens."

Bao Qian came to mind after all.

"I suppose I will grant that.

The two of them would go..

[ ] To an Artisan District

[ ] To a Trade District


AN: Alright bit short this time due to being cut from the previous chapter for length.
 
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