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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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The only thing that keeps you from ever being completely isolated is the connection back to the person that is trying to isolate you, would be my read on the 'imprisoned within an empty void forever' situation.
 
trebobr said:
We've said a lot that Isolation is our weapon. But that doesn't match up with our arts.
If anything, I'd argue that Endings is our best weapon right now in that we use the Final Frost's Serenade art as our main offence.

If we add Beast King's Savage Dirge, then we also have Power as a weapon, since of its four keywords, that's the only one we have a concept for (unless you count Communication for Music)


So of the blades we have, there is
Endings, the current main
Isolation, the original, but removed from any arts, only left in our domain
Power, a new one and was never directly mentioned to be a Blade like the two above were, but that's how it's being used

Our offence is already diverse.

in fact you could even argue that Want is there too, since it's part of FFS


And now we're adding Communication
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Isolation is a Blade for us, folded into our very sense of being (Domain).

Power is more than a Blade, it's the ability to affect or resist Change/Motion. BKSD's constructs don't have Blades of Isolation in them, but they still can achieve or resist Change.

Want is a direction. Want aims Power to achieve Change/Motion in the direction of Want or to resist Change/Motion that would shift someone off course of their Want(s).

Communication is a delivery mechanism for information between self and outside-of-self. Communication would be something similar to a handle to the Blade that is Isolation. It could also look like a Lever if you're a Hui looking to socially engineer a generation.

I think Isolation as a Blade is an interesting metaphor because a Blade can do a great many things as the swordmasters know. It also can only really do one thing: cut.

My personal advocacy would see "Our Blades" be "Starvation, Isolation, and Ignorance/Delusion" where our creative/building/additive forces would be "Sacrifice, Community and Curiosity/Secrets".

Power and Want and Communication and Choice can all do more than just Cut so I don't think they're blades. I think they're just vital parts of reality.

On the other hand I'm not sure Starvation, Isolation or Ignorance/Delusion can do anything other than Cut. Sure a Cut can accomplish a great many things but at the same time it only will ever be a Cut, never a creation.

Sidebar: Remember when that Sword-Cultivator parried our Music with a sword? Well what if our Music could swordfight a Sword-Cultivator hmm??? Bet they didn't see our Musical Build having an understanding of Blades sharp enough to swordfight with coming!! Also, applying Unity of Blades to fighting the "Blades" of Starvation, Isolation and Ignorance/Delusion sounds like a good way to use Unity of Blades without relying on an explicit physical outgroup. The outgroup-threat is the conceptual Blades of Privation seeking to slay any and all. Much more stable that relying on actual physical enemies. They're definitely harder enemies to put down than any human culture group.

Double Sidebar: I also want to take a little moment to advocate once again for Song-Seeking as a general concept. A use of our three Patrons to pull old songs out of the rot of ages and the context they're chained to, in order to sing a new song in the now. In some respects this dive into dead Hui ideation is that kind of dumpster diving, although it doesn't seem to be musical yet. Having Greed and Desire actualize into a sort of malicious Drinking Song would be kinda badass I'd love that. Even if it doesn't end up musical in any way though, it's the right shape of Dumpster Diving to give us experience in doing more dumpster diving later on, hopefully to find old songs and dances!
 
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Assuming that the connection can't also be severed.
Uncle Skellies prison was not perfect, it can be entered and exited.
So perfectly isolating someone is HARD, probably practically impossible in almost every case.
But world is full of edge cases.

And not really the point.
The point was that nobody is immune to isolation, some ways may be very resistant to it, in the end, everyone is can be isolated from their allies (and enemies, in a more defensive side).
 
Adhoc vote count started by DeadmanwalkingXI on Feb 27, 2025 at 1:57 PM, finished with 174 posts and 123 votes.
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JowKeen said:
Also, applying Unity of Blades to fighting the "Blades" of Starvation, Isolation and Ignorance/Delusion sounds like a good way to use Unity of Blades without relying on an explicit physical outgroup.
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I don't think this works? You are trying to use blades as both your in-groups' tools and your out-group threat, which means you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

But even more than that, I think trying to make unity of blades bloodless by removing all actual people from the out-group destroys unity of blades no matter what concept you try and use for the out-group.
 
Doramas said:
Man, all this talk about encoutering an enemy "inmune" to Isolation, as if we were talking about pokemon types.
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It's theoretically possible for cultivators to be immune to each other's bullshit.
Yrsillar said:
I think Yao vs. Pure one would be something of a Draw, since neither one has any way to really... interface with each other.
It's more that its a bit meaningless too him, like trying to talk to a shark about quantum physics
but neither does Yao really have the tools to strike the Pure One Down
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