[X]Plan Ork, the Orkinsson.
-[X]Persus:
--[X]Beowulf
---[X]Timberwolf Formation
--[X]V-33 TMU 'Longship Configuration'
-[X]Amerigo
--[X]SCR-03E Gunship
---[X]Jessica Satsuma as a pilot
---[X] Energy Blaster
---[X] Dispersion Field Blast
-[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
 
Remember that they're close air support. They have enough fuel to fly to the battlefield, fire, then return to refuel and rearm (which is why you only get to use them every three combat turns). You can reconfigure them for long distance flight, but they're not going to be very good at fighting whatever you're likely to find at NYC if you do that.

(As useful as the V-33s are, they aren't going to stick around and fight by themselves)
So... Sending a support formation without a mothership is a bad idea, because they need to refuel and rearm? Or would it be possible (on future deployments) to configure a unit of TMUs for long-distance flight and have them carry a unit of Steeds (which the DFRI, sadly, doesn't have yet), and then expect them to be in combat condition once they arrive?
 
Perseus actually isn't too bad though?

We've got a mostly functional prototype that we can deploy at zero effective cost, just give it a quick crash upgrade and it's ready to rock.

The whole point in that case is to just buy time after all.

(By the way, where is our deployment options? I can't seem to find them in my sleep-addled state)

I gave a direct link to the roster and build sheet in the post. I figured it was easier for me to just continually update and link to that page than posting a new set of options all the time. :p
 
So... Sending a support formation without a mothership is a bad idea, because they need to refuel and rearm? Or would it be possible (on future deployments) to configure a unit of TMUs for long-distance flight and have them carry a unit of Steeds (which the DFRI, sadly, doesn't have yet), and then expect them to be in combat condition once they arrive?

You probably could, but the V-33s wouldn't be fighting.
 
Phrasing it as belatedly compensating Patch for "medical analysis and potential corrective action on an enemy of the state" might cover more loopholes.
 
[X] Plan Wolf-Wolf-Wolf
Adhoc vote count started by Thors_Alumni on Jun 23, 2018 at 3:09 PM, finished with 26 posts and 10 votes.

  • [X] Plan Wolf-Wolf-Wolf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Core Unit: The Beowulf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Combine Unit: SV-10 'Shepherd' -> Timberwolf
    --[X] Energy Blaster
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Support Unit: V-33 TMU, 'Falcon Configuration' -
    -[X] Stork(New York) Core/Support Unit: SCR-01E Banner
    --[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
    [X]Plan Ork, the Orkinsson.
    -[X]Persus:
    --[X]Beowulf
    ---[X]Timberwolf Formation
    --[X]V-33 TMU 'Longship Configuration'
    -[X]Amerigo
    --[X]SCR-03E Gunship
    ---[X]Jessica Satsuma as a pilot
    ---[X] Energy Blaster
    ---[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
 
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Where is Dispersion Field Blast though...

Edit: nevermind, found it.

I still think Perseus and an upgraded shield would be better though.
 
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I'll be leaving voting up until either tonight or tomorrow morning depending.
Adhoc vote count started by Basarin on Jun 23, 2018 at 8:54 PM, finished with 34 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Plan Wolf-Wolf-Wolf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Core Unit: The Beowulf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Combine Unit: SV-10 'Shepherd' -> Timberwolf
    --[X] Energy Blaster
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Support Unit: V-33 TMU, 'Falcon Configuration' -
    -[X] Stork(New York) Core/Support Unit: SCR-01E Banner
    --[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
    [X]Plan Ork, the Orkinsson.
    -[X]Persus:
    --[X]Beowulf
    ---[X]Timberwolf Formation
    --[X]V-33 TMU 'Longship Configuration'
    -[X]Amerigo
    --[X]SCR-03E Gunship
    ---[X]Jessica Satsuma as a pilot
    ---[X] Energy Blaster
    ---[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
    [X] Deployment Plan Gallant
    -[X] Pegasus: Beowulf And Combination Units
    --[X] Energy Blaster, Longship Formation, (5 RP total)
    -[X] Stork: Perseus (Pilot: Tellison)
    --[X] Energy Blaster (2 RP), Upgraded K-Suit (4 RP), Arc Blade (3 RP)
    -[X] Legion Support (2 RP)
 
KnightDisciple: Comics of the Century
The Comics Industry in the 2070s
I am basically going to have it be the same up until now, and set a "point of divergence" in a bit less than 10 years. But really it's all wild speculation and some fun-having. Feel free to slightly re-interpret some of the below-mentioned works, in case things are more radically different in this world.

The comics industry of the '70s is vastly different than it was half a century ago. While the "Big Two" continue to have a large market share (hovering around 50% give or take, between the two of them, though with a lot of customer crossover), a multitude of other publishers now sit comfortably in the top tiers with them. There are still plenty of "indie" publishers, but with the transition to the subscription-based digital content model, that label tends to be reserved for those who publish only one or two titles, or who put out short-run series (lasting less than two years), as well as ones with very niche products.

-Boom! Comics has become a major rival to DC and Marvel, carrying multiple licenses for franchise and series on the big and small screen. Their Power Rangers line has waxed and waned in popularity, but currently is enjoying a miniature renaissance. That they have become the go-to publisher for comics featuring Disney's classic characters (rather than, necessarily, characters from sub-companies such as Marvel) has only boosted their strength.
-Dark Horse has found new life as the "edgier, but not too edgy" branding. Successes 50 years ago with lines such as Black Hammer spurred them to produce works that sought to embody quality and genuinely thoughtful stories, while still being entirely willing to include more "mature" content and languages. Many were surprised when Star Trek landed at Dark Horse for the last several decades, but the writers and artists have managed to strike a fan-pleasing balance of "respectful to the source material" and "adventurous enough to try new things".
-IDW's ownership of licenses such as Transformers and GI Joe, as well as lesser-known "tie in franchises" from the 1980s and 1990s, has given them a secure baseline to branch out from. Several original lines continue to be produced, while the company's commitment to both long-term storytelling, and refusal to frequently "reset" things, has made them a favorite of many fans who prefer longer, slower-paced stories. Their willingness to produce beautiful hard and soft bound collections of their storylines is a fan favorite among collectors and those who simply like a good book, as well.
-Archie Comics continued use of brands such as Archie, Josie and the Pussycats, Happy Days, and others to explore what it means to live in the world of the day mean that their fanbase is loyal and continuous. While they do certainly produce "wacky" crossovers with other publishers and more action-oriented franchises, their storytelling is typically much more subdued and character-driven.
-Dynamite Entertainment has not only held on to classic multi-decade brands (such as James Bond, Stargate, and other long-running multi-movie or multi-series brands), they've continually worked with and updated their stable of "low power" heroes such as the Phantom, Shadow, Spider, and others, not only telling stories set in the 1920s-40s, but also giving us stories with newer generations of those same heroes, embodying the same concept of "legacy" that the Big Two embraced in the 2030s and beyond. They also continue to publish a large number of "high fantasy" comics, most famously the various ongoing Pathfinder series.
-Valiant Comics has continued to grow, albeit in a "slow but steady" manner, with their increasingly-diverse lines giving them a wide foundation so that even if one line falters, the company continues to succeed. Many of their "superhero" works tend to blend scientific and fantastical origins, as well as leaning on character archetypes that are more like exaggerated real-world skillsets ("super-soldier", "super-ninja", and the like).
-Lucasfilm has its own comic book publisher, to unite its various brands (though primarily Star Wars) under one roof. This is part of the never-ending work the content creators and managers of the company undertake to keep the stories and sub-stories of these brands from becoming too burdensome.

DC Comics is nearing its 135th anniversary, and while the 2030s were a lean decade, the birthplace of some of the earliest superheroes remains strong.
DC has adopted an approach that is both cyclical and legacy-centric. Recognizing that even with stories that intentionally pass on mantles, the total history of the whole setting can become too large a burden to bear, DC has instead utilized the Multiverse/Hypertime concept for all it's worth. Counting backwards to 2010 from 2035, the company decided that every 30 years or so, they would explicitly "wind down" storylines and set the universe aside from regular storytelling. This freed writers from worrying about keeping everything always the same forever, and also from having to remember too much back-history. As well, the much more gentle approach meant that Elseworlds, Side-Stories, and other various "special books" could easily return to those classic histories, perhaps bringing together multiple Bat-Clans, Super-Families, and Lantern-Corps.
-Superman continues to be much as he was originally, though more recently artists have sought to depict him and other Kryptonians as a species who had been unified so long their various ethnicities blended together (harkening back to the actor Dean Cain's appearance decades before). His ties to journalism continue, manifesting in television and internet-based journalism, with a side of book authorship. Lex Luthor, still the ruthless billionaire tycoon (these days shown to be profiteering and double-dealing with both the world government and thinly-veiled copies of the Westphalians), along with a cast of varied and fanciful super-villains, keeps Superman busy even with his great powers. The Super-Family includes his cousin Supergirl, his daughter Power Girl, and his erstwhile clone Superboy, along with the ever-faithful Krypto the Super-Dog. The current publishing cycle has seen him romancing and eventually marrying Wonder Woman (who has, influenced by the popular casting of Gal Gadot, finally found herself resembling her supposed Greek heritage when drawn), bringing her colorful cast of characters alongside. Themes emphasized include Truth, Justice, and Cooperation; both Clark and Diana have always been "diplomats" among the heroes, so it is only natural they would speak in favor of peace and cooperation, alongside standing strong against evil.
-Batman has gone through much the same treatment, with his origins and basic facts staying the same overall. Currently in the comics, Bruce Wayne is mostly retired and focusing on using his business and political influence to actively transform Gotham City from "mostly okay" to a true shining paragon of a city. His wife, Lois Lane, has brought major reforms to the journalism in the city, and actually relishes the competition between the Gotham Gazette and the Gotham Times (her own paper), citing the hard-hitting journalism that the two multi-media companies produce. The currently-active Batman is Damian Wayne, whose origin as the son of Bruce and Talia has remained. Dick Grayson, sporting a lame leg, is fully-retired alongside his wife Barbara Gordon (who these days is inspired by the portrayal in the old classic, the LEGO Batman Movie), and they are raising an (adopted) child. Tim Drake is the new Oracle, Jason Todd continues to be Red Hood, and Stephanie Brown is now Nightwing. New characters bear other mantles (Robin, Red Robin, Batgirl, and so on), and the Bat-Family, while having its share of dysfunctions, is healthier than it was 60 years ago.
-The Justice League, and the DC landscape as a whole, have diverged more than the Classic Trinity. Most heroes have been shown to pass on their mantle, and several new heroes have been introduced in the last couple of "cycles", and overall the cast (and creators) are more diverse, and more naturally so, than in times past. There's a hero for everyone to enjoy at DC....

Marvel Comics have taken a slightly different track. In 2029, they undertook an effort to, effectively, re-launch their entire brand. Rather than trying to somehow retcon Earth-616's history, they chose to explicitly move to a new Earth, and left 616 open for special occasions or secondary books. Since that point (which served as a fresh start for all characters, though some were tied to days gone by) they have simply advanced the timeline, and tried to emphasize passing on mantles, the progression of time, and trying to avoid complaints of heroes (such as Reed Richards) being useless. The world of Marvel isn't perfect, but it is more visibly advanced in technology than our own, and bears a hopeful air.
Broadly speaking, Marvel tends to lean more heavily on scientific and technological origins, as opposed to DC's greater willingness to incorporate magic, or vaguely-defined biology. The Sorcerer Supreme and Asgardian characters are the large exception to this.

-Captain America's origins in World War 2 remain the same as always; the advantage to a story where he is frozen and thawed out is that you can just adjust when he gets thawed. Steve Rogers wielded the shield until only 5 years ago, when he officially passed the mantle on to Eli Bradley, formerly the Patriot of the Young Avengers, and great-grandson of Isaiah Bradley, an American hero who had succored to the ravages of the attempted replication of the Super-Soldier Serum. Eli is a man grown, and has shown both the physical and mental strength required to be Captain America, along with the moral fortitude to stand by the river of truth and tell the world "no, you move".
Secret Empire never happened because Hydra!Cap is stupid and insulting. Hydra are Nazis. Fuck Hydra. Fuck Nazis. That publicity-stunt bullshit never happened, even before the 2030s. Because it is stupid. And Bullshit. And Nazi Apologism, which is stupid bullshit.
-Tony Stark passed away without an heir of his body, leaving Riri Williams to inherit his tech and his company. With the aid of Pepper Potts, Mary Jane Watson-Parker, and others, she has prospered, and eventually passed on the mantle of Iron Man/Iron Heart to James Rhodes's grandson, James Rhodes III. His armor is the most advanced yet, though Riri will still occasionally take to the field as Ironheart alongside Iron Man, if the situation is dire enough.
-Nico Minoru is the current Sorcerer Supreme, having finally transcended the need for the Staff of One (though it is kept as a handy backup weapon for times of need), and has thoroughly taught herself the (comparatively) more traditional mystic arts that Stephen Strange utilized.
-Thor, Loki, Odin, and the other Asgardians all chose to ultimately spite the Ragnarok Cycle that saw them all dying and being reborn every few decades. They all passed in one final, glorious, shining battle, and instead of being directly reborn, their powers and "gear" were scattered and gifted to those worthy. Today, several heroes and heroines wield these abilities to protect the world...or in the case of a few, to attempt to control it.
-The presence of the Hulk in his body has massively slowed Bruce Banner's aging, meaning that he is currently one of the most senior active heroes in the world (surpassed only by Logan of the X-Men). He has found peace with his inner Rage, and Banner and Hulk have something of a "time share" going on right now.
-The X-Men are an ever-shifting group whose main constant is their often-perilous place in society, and the presence of the slow-aging Wolverine (who in this iteration hasn't died a multitude of times). Several of the current generation find themselves sporting powers similar to classic members of the misfit mutant mentors and minders, but never fear, True Believers, they're their own unique people and heroes!
-Kamala Khan is the current Captain Marvel, having been given potent energy-manipulating powers on top of her powerful shapeshifting as the last, heroic act of Carol Danvers.

Overall, Marvel has more readily embraced active efforts to present a more diverse and unique spread of heroes and storylines, giving rise to more entirely new characters, as well as new and unique reinterpretations of existing ones.
 
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[X] Plan Wolf-Wolf-Wolf

OK, just binged the whole thread so ready and all caught up now.

By the way, if way back then was us just getting 'promotional material' out would this qualify as episode one now orrrr?
 
Wait, why is Wolf-Wolf-Wolf sending Banner to NYC? I thought the whole reason his body wasn't built with weapons installed was so he wouldn't feel obligated to be a living weapon for us if he didn't want to, and I don't remember him giving his opinion on that or training for it in the narrative yet. I mean, OOC we know that's what he's going to do, but the tyke was just born last month, shouldn't we give him some more time to get settled in before throwing him at our enemies?

His appearance might also trigger a lot of questions if anyone gets a good look at him, since he's a living machine. Either "Holy crap the Union has independent A.I. War machines!" or "Is that a Kausen?" to those in the know.

[X]Plan Ork, the Orkinsson.
 
I have no fooking idea, and despite asking why not the Perseus which we can make battleready with our crunch time, I've been ignored every time.

Think I'm going to have to present an option myself, despite being stuck with my phone.
 
[X] Deployment Plan Gallant
-[X] Pegasus: Beowulf And Combination Units
--[X] Energy Blaster, Longship Formation, (2 RP, Longships are free)
-[X] Stork: Perseus (Pilot: Tellison)
--[X] Energy Blaster (2 RP), Upgraded K-Suit (4 RP), Arc Blade (3 RP)
-[X] Legion Support (2 RP)

Almost cleans us out, but limits the damage NYC risks by putting the brick that is the Perseus there, plus Tellison's perks to get the most of our support elements. Also makes sure the Timberwolf gets some backup.

And saving lives takes priority, always. Such is the way of a Brave.

But yeah, Tellison gets good survivability, and while his HP is mediocre, he has a ton of active defense which should let him shoot down a Pilum level combattant, that plus tarpit something stronger.
 
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There, phone posting is awful, but I hoped a good explanation was coming for why we'd send Banner over the Perseus It never came, so here I am.

Hopefully I'm not too late.
 
[X] Deployment Plan Gallant
Edit: why is it only showing Alectai's vote for gallant?
Adhoc vote count started by Basarin on Jun 23, 2018 at 8:54 PM, finished with 34 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Plan Wolf-Wolf-Wolf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Core Unit: The Beowulf
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Combine Unit: SV-10 'Shepherd' -> Timberwolf
    --[X] Energy Blaster
    -[X] Pegasus(San Diego) Support Unit: V-33 TMU, 'Falcon Configuration' -
    -[X] Stork(New York) Core/Support Unit: SCR-01E Banner
    --[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
    [X]Plan Ork, the Orkinsson.
    -[X]Persus:
    --[X]Beowulf
    ---[X]Timberwolf Formation
    --[X]V-33 TMU 'Longship Configuration'
    -[X]Amerigo
    --[X]SCR-03E Gunship
    ---[X]Jessica Satsuma as a pilot
    ---[X] Energy Blaster
    ---[X] Dispersion Field Blast
    -[X] You're just speaking out loud here. So maybe some shards are lying around, and wouldn't it be grand if some outside force was able to at least help curb the worst of the damage until the Valiant shows up? But it's not like you can ask them to do that, so you're just going to be so focused on San Diego you have no way to pay attention closer to home...
    [X] Deployment Plan Gallant
    -[X] Pegasus: Beowulf And Combination Units
    --[X] Energy Blaster, Longship Formation, (5 RP total)
    -[X] Stork: Perseus (Pilot: Tellison)
    --[X] Energy Blaster (2 RP), Upgraded K-Suit (4 RP), Arc Blade (3 RP)
    -[X] Legion Support (2 RP)
 
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