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[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
Endorfinator said:
Really dude? You think it's a good idea to design ships that will see combat as floating cities with children and non-mission critical civilians on board? Constellation was subjective. And the Excelsior and Miranda's where incredible ships, for their time. But they were eviscerated by the Dominion.
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Starfleet ships aren't warships, and see very little combat if any in the average course of things. The Galaxy class was specifically designed with a mechanism to allow the civilian population to avoid combat with it's saucer separation. And the Excelsior and Miranda were kept around as long as they were because they were stunningly good at their jobs, even if they weren't great combatants by the end (though even then the Lakota refit made the Excelsior a perfectly able fighter).
 
If we do a good job and the god of dice rolls smiles on us, then this could be our "Gateway to the Stars" - Thus the STARGATE class. With each ship named after stars in Federation space. They could even use other members names for the stars on some of them for diplomacy points.
 
I also dug the Obena-class from Lower Decks as a 'modernized' iteration of the Excelsior design. It was an iteration, yeah, but it made some nice updates.

And in terms of saucer seperation, it's interesting to note that (off the top of my head at least) I can recall that the original Enterprise was also supposed to be able to do a saucer seperation; we just never saw it in the series.
 
Firehawk242 said:
This thing's saucer is going to be bigger than the Enterprise. Not bigger than the Enterprise's saucer, bigger than the whole damn ship.

It's over 90% of the size of the Thunderchild too.
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In fairness it has been about 20 years since the NX-class was designed. On earth in a similar timeframe the United States went from the 12,700 ton & 165.2m long Langley to the 30,800 ton & 270.7m long Essex class (long bow for length), if you add an extra year onto things that'd be the 45,000 ton & 295m long Midway class.

And the newly formed Starfleet is gonna need to have a similar jump in capability to meet its new responsibilities.
 
StriderInCosmos said:
I also dug the Obena-class from Lower Decks as a 'modernized' iteration of the Excelsior design. It was an iteration, yeah, but it made some nice updates.

And in terms of saucer seperation, it's interesting to note that (off the top of my head at least) I can recall that the original Enterprise was also supposed to be able to do a saucer seperation; we just never saw it in the series.
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Mostly because unlike the Galaxy-class, the Constitution-class version of saucer separation was exclusively an emergency maneuver - they used explosive bolts instead of dedicated docking mechanisms.
 
StriderInCosmos said:
I also dug the Obena-class from Lower Decks as a 'modernized' iteration of the Excelsior design. It was an iteration, yeah, but it made some nice updates.

And in terms of saucer seperation, it's interesting to note that (off the top of my head at least) I can recall that the original Enterprise was also supposed to be able to do a saucer seperation; we just never saw it in the series.
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As I recall, what distinguished the Galaxies in this regard was not the saucer's ability to separate but the secondary hull's ability to dock with it again without the intervention of tugs and a repair yard--a capability achieved by giving both sections independent impulse engines (two on the saucer, one on the stardrive), and accomplishing the mating of the two sections with clamps rather than bolts.
 
[X] 0: Small Saucer (200,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)

I want to see what this oversized secondary hull might look like.
 
Tank man said:
In fairness it has been about 20 years since the NX-class was designed. On earth in a similar timeframe the United States went from the 12,700 ton & 165.2m long Langley to the 30,800 ton & 270.7m long Essex class (long bow for length), if you add an extra year onto things that'd be the 45,000 ton & 295m long Midway class.

And the newly formed Starfleet is gonna need to have a similar jump in capability to meet its new responsibilities.
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Oh absolutely, I just find it funny that you could fold up an NX and stick it inside the Copernicus's saucer.
 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
Firehawk242 said:
Oh absolutely, I just find it funny that you could fold up an NX and stick it inside the Copernicus's saucer.
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Fair. That's another potentially interesting avenue, at least early on whilst tractor beams aren't so good/warp bubbles are less forgiving. A mobile spacedock ship, bigger than anything we've got now and thus able to take basically any ship inside of it and start affecting repairs, no matter how far from a starbase/fixed spacedock they are.
 
Tank man said:
Fair. That's another potentially interesting avenue, at least early on whilst tractor beams aren't so good/warp bubbles are less forgiving. A mobile spacedock ship, bigger than anything we've got now and thus able to take basically any ship inside of it and start affecting repairs, no matter how far from a starbase/fixed spacedock they are.
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Sayle - How on EARTH did you lot manage to create a ship with 50 engineering score?
 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
I've been thinking about phaser tech, and how in the future the length of the phaser strip is what determines the power of the shot...

Baseballs have a continuous strip of stitches that wind around every section of it with no breaks.

100% of the ship's firepower would be focusable in any direction at all.

The sphere is clearly the optimal ship shape for anything that needs to punch above it's weight.
 
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[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
Enthusiast#117 said:
I've been thinking about phaser tech, and how in the future the length of the phaser strip is what determines the power of the shot...

Baseballs have a continuous strip of stitches that wind around every section of it with no breaks.

100% of the ship's firepower would be focusable in any direction at all.

The sphere is clearly the optimal ship shape for anything that needs to punch above it's weight.
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Fair point.

Unfortunately, round hulls are ugly.
 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)

I want a ship that will be a symbol for the latter half of the 22nd century and show our transformation into the 23rd.

Something like the Yorktown:

 
[X] 0: Large Saucer (380,000 Tons)
[X] 1: Electro-Ceramic Hull Composite (-20% Mass) [Experimental] (Two Success Checks: Cost/Defense)
 
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