Empress_Boog
Grand Empress
So we need a shuttle bay so the Federation's UFO can probe everything it comes across? Got it!
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I argued for a cheap spherical dedicated surveyor, sadly good sense lost again to Canon Starflitism and we are stuck with a boring overpriced saucer. So our course is clear. Let us turn this surveyor into another overpriced dual role ship so our science guys get first class seats when their science ship fights pirates. Why fight piates? Because of all the gigantic guns, armor and shields we stuff onto this.
0t4n1z3r019
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The full saucer won, so...one torpedo tube to launch probes (either fore or aft; definitely fore), a few Type-1 Phaser strips to prototype it, then the new engines + nacelles (hope we get some new variants).
Internals is of course, dedicated to SCIENCE! Probably add a Medbay and Engineering section just in case.
Internals is of course, dedicated to SCIENCE! Probably add a Medbay and Engineering section just in case.
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No. Prototype guns
Prototypes are fine. It's better to test them out on a small ship. It just doesn't need 16 of them.
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Can we have one prototype gun tho plz?
As a treat.
[Regardless if we go for the Explorer or the Cargo/Tactical build next, prototyping weapons here where will be useful for our next ship]
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Oh sod off with your 'my way is the only right way' attitude. It's almost like there are multiple different 'good sense' ways to make a ship
LunaMoth
Wings of Kynareth is my comfort song...
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The prototypes make sense to pick, it's just, maybe don't add 20 gigantic top of the line weapons to a survey ship.
I mean look at Stellaris that game has non combat survey ships that manage to survive, and they aren't really armed.
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The prototypes make sense to pick, it's just, maybe don't add 20 gigantic top of the line weapons to a survey ship.
but what if we want to survey damage patterns?
Derek58
Rocket Punch is Best Punch
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"...why is the survey ship more heavily armed than a Thunderchild-class dreadnought?"The prototypes make sense to pick, it's just, maybe don't add 20 gigantic top of the line weapons to a survey ship.
"because some negative space wedgies just need to be blown up with extreme prejudice!'
To be fair that's actually true"...why is the survey ship more heavily armed than a Thunderchild-class dreadnought?"
"because some negative space wedgies just need to be blown up with extreme prejudice!'
0t4n1z3r019
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"What do you mean 'you want to blow an anomaly with extreme prejudice?!"...why is the survey ship more heavily armed than a Thunderchild-class dreadnought?"
"because some negative space wedgies just need to be blown up with extreme prejudice!'
""Did I stutter?! 😤"
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And if you look at 40k all our ships have insufficient anti-demon protection. Different rules for different settings.
Besides, I seem to remember quite a few events in Stellaris that blow up your science ship
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I want to make sure we double tap science before medbay or engineering, though those are nice to have. We made that mistake last quest.
LunaMoth
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Yeah, but honestly at least early game, the science ships in Stellaris; feel very star trek.
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Literally, not joking... do you think a torpedo launcher launch probes, you know. Usefully?
[Ok, was joking]
'Cuz if so, I'd want one. If not I'd just use this as an opportunity to protype some gunz
[edit: no longer joking about 'probe launcher']
Stellaris is little baby setting made out of kittens and blankets.The prototypes make sense to pick, it's just, maybe don't add 20 gigantic top of the line weapons to a survey ship.
I mean look at Stellaris that game has non combat survey ships that manage to survive, and they aren't really armed.
[I'm just being silly. Stellaris has it's own nightmares. Like lag. Oh god the lag on my potato machine]
Star Trek... well, if we can't have 20 guns on our survey ship, how about 19 and have 10 of our 'probes' be photon torpedoes.
To do high energy physics SCIENCE at the less friendly negative space wedgies.
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0t4n1z3r019
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Fancy. Schmancy. Whatever it is, we want our survey ship at least capable of defending itself whilst not going gung-ho on firepower and do the surveying properly.
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Captain: "I thought you d-did.""What do you mean 'you want to blow an anomaly with extreme prejudice?!
"Did I stutter?! 😤"
Chief Science Officer: "No captain, that-t's time breaking a-apart! We need have l-launched our 'torpedo probes' at that anomaly fiv-e minutes from now."
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VicSage
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Stellaris has the problem that you can't put any weapons on the survey ship and lose to a meteor. Star Trek has the problem that there's a brain parasite on every asteroid that can't be detected until it's on board, and the federation only produces so much ivermectin per year. Not enough to kill that many parasites.
LunaMoth
Wings of Kynareth is my comfort song...
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Honestly not even entirely sure what would help surveying, but this is what I can think of.
torpedo tube: Launch probes
prototype Phasers: they are kinda implied to be a multi-tool type thing, whereas the outdated phase cannons are weapons. Though probably don't need too many.
shuttle bay: I imagine shuttles are useful to surveyors in some manner.
Sensors: this thing would be pretty much a necessity probably (not Spock, the weird microscope he's always shown looking into). Otherwise scanners are a necessity tbh.
Med bay: for researching biological stuff.
Cargo bays: for storing samples.
torpedo tube: Launch probes
prototype Phasers: they are kinda implied to be a multi-tool type thing, whereas the outdated phase cannons are weapons. Though probably don't need too many.
shuttle bay: I imagine shuttles are useful to surveyors in some manner.
Sensors: this thing would be pretty much a necessity probably (not Spock, the weird microscope he's always shown looking into). Otherwise scanners are a necessity tbh.
Med bay: for researching biological stuff.
Cargo bays: for storing samples.
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It'd be cool if we had a good set of main sensors and then like smaller clusters spread out to create a mini-very large array. Sensors that could see smaller, larger, or in frequencies/subspace bands that are non-standard. If it can do tachyon technobabble scanning at large ranges it might be even better at running away before known dangers get close. Scanners that had better subsurface scanning capability also would be handy for surveying mineral/oceanic stuff.
Then likely computers, or maybe a computer that's an absolute unit.
Then likely computers, or maybe a computer that's an absolute unit.
I mean, if we could get Spock...