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A post-war Thunderchild Refit will probably involve adding a Secondary Hull and stuffing some logistic and science facilities in there to make it more useful in peace time.
 
Tylonius said:
A post-war Thunderchild Refit will probably involve adding a Secondary Hull and stuffing some logistic and science facilities in there to make it more useful in peace time.
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My gut wants to give it a massive cargo bay, shuttle bay and workshop so it can do circuits of Federation worlds helping with civil engineering projects when it's not bonking pirates.
 
Sayle Why not go full flying saucer such as the Lukari ships. They are big, fast and able to maneuver like a Defiant even with their battleships. They don't have exposed nacelles nor have deflector dishes.
 
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Arimai said:
One crazy suggestion. Why not go full flying saucer such as the Lukari ships. They are big, fast and able to maneuver like a Defiant even with their battleships. They don't have exposed nacelles nor have deflector dishes.
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We're not the Lukari; their designs are different from ours :V
 
Mobile factory ship to aide more aggressive colonization? Why the heck not? The Starfleet Corps of Engineers needs a strong start.
 
[X] Arrowhead. Aim for a cheap light cruiser. (Industry: 2)

While I don't agree that the Stingray's are useless, since they are still quite potent for anti-piracy and commerce protection/assistance, a less expensive combat oriented frigate seems more useful than competing with the NX
 
Arimai said:
Sayle Why not go full flying saucer such as the Lukari ships. They are big, fast and able to maneuver like a Defiant even with their battleships. They don't have exposed nacelles nor have deflector dishes.
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I mean yeah I can totally see these as AU Starfleet vessels tbh, they genuinely look cool, and do the ufo thing better than Starfleet.

It seems flying saucer is a valid design in the star trek universe, because its done several other times, and the borg ships exist.
 
Arimai said:
I'm saying an elliptical orb or flying saucer would be an optimal battleframe
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I'm just not sure why exactly, when Starfleet tech has somewhat clear restrictions on how things are designed and built.

We can't make straight-up flying saucers, or not without some pretty high difficulty.
 
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Jensaarai said:
But we're still gonna put some science labs in, right?
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Silversun17 said:
Depends on if we do a dedicated sciance ship or not.
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It would be cheaper and quicker to design a science ship. You'd have to hollow out and rebuild the interior of the Thunderchild class. It wasn't built with the sensor arrays, labs and multiple computer cores a science ship needs. It's built with as much armor, more and thicker bulkheads as possible.

You'd also want that science ship fast and maneuverable to escape all the dangerous anomalies and hostile aliens it will encounter. Tacking on more guns would reduce its sensors and lab space. The Coalition doesn't have the Federation's advanced tech to brute force engineering problems.
 
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[X] Arrowhead. Aim for a cheap light cruiser. (Industry: 2)

I had really hoped for small torpedo based ships, but I still think the need is for many small ships with maxed guns rather than torpedoes specifically.

I do think these would be suicide solo, but with Thunderchild and equivalents to hold attention and the line they will work well.
 
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NavySeel said:
Not to the same extent
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And also not to the same tech level. NXs are still using atomic ordnance, and Bulwarks only prototyped photonics. These new vessels would be the first platforms to field photonics as a mature technology.

Also, NXs lack aft torpedo launchers, so their coverage is as inferior as their tech.
 
Arimai said:
It would be cheaper and quicker to design a science ship. You'd have to hollow out and rebuild the interior of the Thunderchild class. It wasn't built with the sensor arrays, labs and multiple computer cores a science ship needs. It's built with as much armor, more and thicker bulkheads as possible.
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Specific details like bulkheads or interior spacing or whatever aren't really a consideration we have to make when it comes to refits. The components can be pulled out and replaced by something else with little to no fuss beyond Industry cost differences.

It also doesn't need to be a full science ship, just have some ability to do Science. I do worry that a secondary hull would slow it down too much, but that's still a consideration if we want to fit some science labs in without taking much else out.
 
Do also consider that we might be looking at Warp 6 or 7-capable cores by the time a Thunderchild refit comes around, which would help things along in the engine power department.
 
SaltyWaffles said:
More like "one torpedo tube" or "maybe two". Worth noting that our current torpedo tech is actually superior to Romulan torpedoes, and that extra speed and maneuverability might mean that that one torpedo tube gets in decisive blows that would otherwise miss.

@Sayle : Could we go with an arrowhead that forgoes energy weapon armament in favor of more torpedo tubes? It would definitely be an unconventional design, but the great mobility and maneuverability, plus our very hard-hitting torpedoes would make them viable.
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The main issue is that the arrowhead doesn't have a lot of front width to put more torpedoes on, especially once you factor in the deflector.
 
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