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ChrisBradford said:
To be honest, Taylor's options aren't exactly what one would call expansive.
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Well, there is always 'equipment' spells, gender inversion potions, gender spells, conception spells... not to mention divine blessings, magical 'accessories' and the like - one thing you can be sure of is in D&D, there is a way to do Anything, and usually more then one. And all that is not counting the possibility for T to go planeswalking herself in search of a future date, or some potential paramour from another world to come to her world - T's future romance prospects are actually more expansive and viable then then you might think...

Says the guy who ships Taylor with pretty much any of the girls, and sometimes more then one at once - besides, if you ever get around to writing it, J, there's going to be at least one version who's mine.
 
Actually, the story of Chidanul, Teneiss, and Naurelin starts here:

Downtime 3.2 - Missy's Mother's Day Shopping Misadventures.

I soon realized a problem as the story continued: Nils is only 50 years old, and Chidanul is his father. Ergo, fifty years ago, Chidanul was alive, and romanced a human woman, and had kids. Nils mother, Mela's grandmother, probably passed away in the last ten years or so. That makes Chidanul at least 500 years old (Adult age is when Dragons start breeding, according to the Draconomicon), and probably closer to 800 years old. So where would be the best place for an Ancient Gold Dragon to hide? Why not under his house? Chidanul comes and goes, and is known as the reclusive lord of the manor, leaving his affairs to his eldest son, Nils. He pays his taxes and answers official summons, but is rarely seen around Sigil.

I'm running into several problems like this. Fountain is one of those, resulting from a random dungeon app used to generate a CR2 dungeon for our junior heroes to overwhelm. Likewise, Mr. Bradford's question about Astilabor and Secure Storage (She doesn't offer secure storage for other dragons, but if you want to donate an item to the Hoardmistress, it's not likely to get stolen from her...) stems from an item that got spat out from random loot generator for a CR17 creature -5- times in a row. My luck in real life is never that good. So I upgraded the item to something legendary.

I've also found myself in asking the same philosophical questions that scientists should be asking, whether or not we should do something just because we can do something.

And now, I have to look up what Worship of Bahamut was like...
 
Jacen1 said:
Seeing how shapeshifting dragons can successfully mate with literally ANYTHING, expansive is exactly what her options are.
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Unless the goal is "same species, offspring are full dragons". There aren't enough dragons running around for a sustainable population currently. In the future it looks like Hunts-The-Ice may be trying to court Amy however.
 
lars573 said:
I'll save you the time, it looks like Medieval catholicism. Because satanic panic.
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News flash, milk bottle caps with pictures on one side (aka Pogs) caused "satanic panic". I remember in the mid ninties stumbling across a website that had a long winded rant about how Final Fantasy (first game in the series), D&D, and Pogs were all devil worship, and how you had to sign your soul over to Satan as part of initially buying any of them. And don't get them started on Magic: The Gathering, no... really. Don't. The site had EIGHT different multi-page sites linked about how that game and Gin Rummy are evil, soul stealing, and were created by Satan. Including one site going into great detail about how the author was 100% certain that to enter any MTG tournament (local or otherwise) you had to sign a contract with your own blood. And while the author didn't have proof, they were also sure that entrance required committing a ritual murder too.
 
FK, lars? The only satanic panic I'll consider worth my time is a Ghost album. Just saying. For the love of... I had my teen years in Georgia when people were freaking out over D&D and torching their kids' Expert Sets. It never ends and they actively look for the next big thing so they can declare it "Ungodly" as well. RPGs, music, books, history, science, medicine, basic math, there's absolutely nothing people who congregate based on fear and hate won't go on to hate and fear in hopes of staying "righteous". I am not saying this in any political, social, cultural, or religious framing; I'm saying the aforementioned as a basic observation of reality. When people want easy answers to existence, they make myths.

You know what? They always will.
 
BlazeStryker said:
FK, lars? The only satanic panic I'll consider worth my time is a Ghost album. Just saying. For the love of... I had my teen years in Georgia when people were freaking out over D&D and torching their kids' Expert Sets. It never ends and they actively look for the next big thing so they can declare it "Ungodly" as well. RPGs, music, books, history, science, medicine, basic math, there's absolutely nothing people who congregate based on fear and hate won't go on to hate and fear in hopes of staying "righteous". I am not saying this in any political, social, cultural, or religious framing; I'm saying the aforementioned as a basic observation of reality. When people want easy answers to existence, they make myths.

You know what? They always will.
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I agree. It's silly, it's stupid, and the fearmongers out there like Jack Thompson prey upon the gullible masses. What struck me so hard I still remember that damn site was that pogs were lumped under devil worship even though most of the images on them were no where near anything "satanic" or "satanic adjacent", and the claims that to enter a MGT tourney you had to commit ritual murder. Even though there were no documented instances of a weekly or monthly spike in mass murders, anywhere. Which I'm sure would have made the news in short order.
 
Unfortunately people have a nasty tendency to follow the loudest voice, especially if that voice is either a somewhat trusted member of the community or is saying something that they think is at least reasonable sounding. It's like a saying I once heard about US election time. "45% of people will always vote Republican and 45% will always vote Democrat no matter who the candidate is because that's what their parents always voted and that's what they've always voted. It's only the remaining 10% that actually counts." Mainly because the last 10% are the only ones who'll actually listen to what's being said and make up their own damn mind.
 
And please, let that be as far as discussing anything political (except for in-story politics) goes.
 
Kryslin said:
And please, let that be as far as discussing anything political (except for in-story politics) goes.
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I only brought it up because it's had a marked effect on DnD art design. Every time I see a religious building in DnD media, it looks like a Medieval European church. Also there's a scholarly theory that Bahamut is the Arabic translation of the Behemoth, the biblical primordial chaos beast of the Earth. Which then some how got it's name switched with Leviathan (Kuyutha). So if you google non DnD Bahamut you get a fish monster instead of a bull monster.
 
lars573 said:
I only brought it up because it's had a marked effect on DnD art design. Every time I see a religious building in DnD media, it looks like a Medieval European church. Also there's a scholarly theory that Bahamut is the Arabic translation of the Behemoth, the biblical primordial chaos beast of the Earth. Which then some how got it's name switched with Leviathan (Kuyutha). So if you google non DnD Bahamut you get a fish monster instead of a bull monster.
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Not just the art design. It also impacted how the books got written. In 2nd edition spells had descriptions of what gestures (if any) were needed to cast them, as well as listing any and all materials needed. There were also in depth rules for the creation of new spells. With 3rd edition much of those details got removed, and the spell creation rules I believe were entirely cut. And it wasn't just D&D that got affected. Revised Heroes Unlimited 1st edition (really, 2nd edition) for example had a section on circle magic, complete with illustrations of magic circles. HU 2nd Edition removed the info on circle magic (while bringing the magic system in line with the rest of Palladium's games), and removed the magic circle illustrations. Because again, the Moral Outrage and nonsensical claims that roleplaying was a satanic cult gateway activity.
 
Tiamat really should go on a walk about through the ruins of Winslow HS as an avatar of her true self. Perhaps she can practice some five-part harmonized breath weapon usage on the rubble afterwards.
 
ChrisBradford said:
Tiamat really should go on a walk about through the ruins of Winslow HS as an avatar of her true self. Perhaps she can practice some five-part harmonized breath weapon usage on the rubble afterwards.
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I think you have your stories confused.

The Gundam one saw Winslow demolished.

Here, Taylor's locker was all that got wrecked, and the school effectively got shut down from the resulting investigation.
 
Tiamat has mentioned about wanting to go on a walk as her draconic self through Winslow High School, along with jumping up and down a couple of times. Considering she weighs slightly less than a full sized Varga, there wouldn't be much left afterwards... of the school and a couple of blocks around it... Nor most of the underground infrastructure within a half mile...

Also, Taylor (as Juggernaut) has chased Shadowstalker through Winslow, making a lot of impromptu doors and windows in the building, effectively demolishing it... to the tune of Yakety Sax.
 
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I also recall a MLP cross where Taylor's trigger gets a surprise Celestia interupt, and a ponyfied Taylor (in the form of Twilight Sparkle) chased after the trio, culminating with Hess getting TK slam dunked into a trash can
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
Not just the art design. It also impacted how the books got written. In 2nd edition spells had descriptions of what gestures (if any) were needed to cast them, as well as listing any and all materials needed. There were also in depth rules for the creation of new spells. With 3rd edition much of those details got removed, and the spell creation rules I believe were entirely cut. And it wasn't just D&D that got affected. Revised Heroes Unlimited 1st edition (really, 2nd edition) for example had a section on circle magic, complete with illustrations of magic circles. HU 2nd Edition removed the info on circle magic (while bringing the magic system in line with the rest of Palladium's games), and removed the magic circle illustrations. Because again, the Moral Outrage and nonsensical claims that roleplaying was a satanic cult gateway activity.
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It's more of an outrage to enforce stupid religious rules on rpg stuff…sigh I really wanna rant about those so called righteous people. Anyway they're stifling creativity.
 
White Wyvern57 said:
It's more of an outrage to enforce stupid religious rules on rpg stuff…sigh I really wanna rant about those so called righteous people. Anyway they're stifling creativity.
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You missed a word. You should have called them "Self-Righteous" as that's basically all they are along with trying their damnedest to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throat.
 
jmcdavid said:
I think you have your stories confused.

The Gundam one saw Winslow demolished.

Here, Taylor's locker was all that got wrecked, and the school effectively got shut down from the resulting investigation.
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As Krys has personally attested to, Tiamat wants to tour through and end Winslow as she considers it a ruination of the education system, an assessment I frankly agree with and which means Chris' line only needs one word edited (Ruins to ruination, or just adding the word imminent just before ruins, either way!)

Speaking of comments by Krys, I guess RHJunior wasn't feeling Celestia would be particularly vindictive. If she had been, Celestia would have Ponyfied Tay-tay into Sunset and (again) Winslow High School would have been burnt toast.
 
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