As someone who reads the chapters as they are posted on the CTC Forums...

HOLY FUCKBALLS

We now return to your regularly updated SV thread.
 
I wouldn't go so far as to put it on maps - it's been debunked that the sentence was ever used in them - but I could see BB's new official motto being "HIC SVNT DRACONES" (in Latin, as it is proper ;) ).
Yes, technically it showed up on the globes, not the maps, It's still in the public mind that it went on maps due to your average joe not knowing the difference between what goes on a globe vs what goes on a map.
 
Yes, I really can't wait till next month when he posts that chapter here and the reactions it will get. Vista really is quite a powerhouse.
 
Idea: Dennis teaching Hallie how to play Magic: the Gathering while laughing about all the mistakes the new D&D set makes.
I almost would be willing to pay money to read that.

Almost.

OTOH, I *definitely* would pay to see the various dragons go and make compliments towards the artist who did almost all the dragon art in 3.5.

Tiamat:
"Sketch me like you do your french models."
*sultry sounding, in full 5 headed hydra form*
 
I almost would be willing to pay money to read that.

Almost.

OTOH, I *definitely* would pay to see the various dragons go and make compliments towards the artist who did almost all the dragon art in 3.5.

Tiamat:
"Sketch me like you do your french models."
*sultry sounding, in full 5 headed hydra form*
I don't get it?
Is this a reference to the art being stupid good?
 
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I don't get it?
Is this a reference to the art being stupid good?
Possibly; I know the art in 1st Edition was... Bad, or rather, not good. Granted, 1st Ed. had its issues, and probably scraping money up to print the books was one of them. 2nd Ed. was better, as in TSR had the money to spend on the art. The best dragon art of the time was for Dragonlance, by Mr. Elmore. I had a chance to talk to him at a Gencon, and I wished I would've had the money to commission him (It wasn't cheap. It would take 25 years before I would have that level of disposable income). The art of 3.5e and 5e are almost as good as Mr. Elmore's work, so that makes it loads better than 1 & 2e.
 
It may be nostalgia, I was around and buying it when it first came out, but that first Player's Handbook cover is still my favorite piece of D&D art.

For the story, I am looking forward to seeing the latest iteration of the Royal Navy curb stomp the Kormorant (even if she didn't sink the Sydney in this timeline).
 
Possibly; I know the art in 1st Edition was... Bad, or rather, not good. Granted, 1st Ed. had its issues, and probably scraping money up to print the books was one of them. 2nd Ed. was better, as in TSR had the money to spend on the art. The best dragon art of the time was for Dragonlance, by Mr. Elmore. I had a chance to talk to him at a Gencon, and I wished I would've had the money to commission him (It wasn't cheap. It would take 25 years before I would have that level of disposable income). The art of 3.5e and 5e are almost as good as Mr. Elmore's work, so that makes it loads better than 1 & 2e.
I don't have a source for this right off, as it comes from a conversation with Mike Molnar(A member of the gaming group that Dungeons & Dragons spawned from), but supposedly the thing about the less than stellar art in the first edition was not only known at the time, but Gary's response was roughly "Yeah, I know, but he only charges five dollars a picture". So scraping up the money was definitely part of it. I can go looking for the forum posts if anyone really wants.

It should be on RPG.net somewhere. Mike's handle is "Old Geezer".
 
Rowling's problem is that worldbuilding doesn't hook new readers in, but good worldbuilding acts as a reward for dedicated fans. Thus her dedicated fans tending to become a hatedom, because her worldbuilding falls apart in a stiff breeze (little things like it being a critical plot point that Dumbledore has to fly to the Ministry of Magic at the climax of the first novel, then a new method of teleportation gets introduced every book for the next five books).

That said, I headcanon that after Grindelwald, various magical communities around the world tried to 'make magic safe', and this resulted in education being so watered down and milquetoast that a boy who blows off ~90% of his magical education for the first three years can compete with the best 6th/7th year students Europe has to offer.

As far as D&D goes . . . meh. Gygax was flawed but brilliant, the people who bought up stock to drive him out of his company were unworthy custodians of the IP, and both WotC and Hasbro managed to be worse yet.
 
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Rowling's problem is that worldbuilding doesn't hook new readers in, but good worldbuilding acts as a reward for dedicated fans. Thus her dedicated fans tending to become a hatedom, because her worldbuilding falls apart in a stiff breeze (little things like it being a critical plot point that Dumbledore has to fly to the Ministry of Magic at the climax of the first novel, then a new method of teleportation gets introduced every book for the next five books).
No. Her worldbuilding does not fall apart. Her fans' deluded imaginary constructs of a world, made up by them of disconnected titbits she sprinkles about and glued together by their own interpretations fall apart when the pieces she has given them don't fit together like they want them to fit. And they are too deluded to consider different ways of fitting them.
 
No. Her worldbuilding does not fall apart. Her fans' deluded imaginary constructs of a world, made up by them of disconnected titbits she sprinkles about and glued together by their own interpretations fall apart when the pieces she has given them don't fit together like they want them to fit. And they are too deluded to consider different ways of fitting them.
No, her worldbuilding is, in fact, an unstable mess. Take it from someone who worldbuilds for fun.
 
I shall be polite and state that while the conversation re: Worldbuilding, JK Rowling, and the perceived lack thereof is somewhat interesting, it is only the tangentially related to the subject at hand, so I would kindly ask that the HP (and not Hewlett Packard, either) discussion desist, while I stew in the 110F heat indices (or about 44-45C for the metric folks) here in Mythic Iowa...
 
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while I stew in the 110F heat indices (or about 44-45C for the metric folks)

Hottest week of the year! Weeeee......

At least we can be sure we don't have any White Dragons for neighbors with this weather. Suckers would move out faster than you can say "Elemental Affinity"

And I'm now picturing the black dragons (who perfer swamps) living in Florida, and maybe that's why the place has so many....interesting stories about it.
 
I'd imagine the entire coastal southeastern US would practically be black dragon paradise with all the small to vast coastal freshwater swamps up and down the southeastern Atlantic coast and along the golf coast which were even more vast in the past.
 
Dragon 1: "And then I said: 'I'm just a really big crocodile, nothing to see here', and the drunken idiot BELIEVED ME!"
Dragon 2: *chuckles* Humans will believe anything if they have enough alcohol.

And now I'm picturing a redneck dragon living in the Appalachian Mountains, brewing moonshine as a hobby, and all the rest of the people living in the area just ignore the dragon part, because hey, its good moonshine.

"Giant lizard? Nope, never seen one. Just Old Dave up there. Comes down for supplies every so often, otherwise keeps to himself."

They all know he's a dragon, just nobody gives a shit. And fooling outsiders is a sport.
 
And now I'm picturing a redneck dragon living in the Appalachian Mountains, brewing moonshine as a hobby, and all the rest of the people living in the area just ignore the dragon part, because hey, its good moonshine.

"Giant lizard? Nope, never seen one. Just Old Dave up there. Comes down for supplies every so often, otherwise keeps to himself."

They all know he's a dragon, just nobody gives a shit. And fooling outsiders is a sport.
Now all I can picture in my head is Steve Earl's song Copperhead Road. Thanks for that. Also, outsider baiting is a common sport worldwide. Just look at Snipe hunting in the U.S. or Haggis hunting here in Scotland.
 
down here we go a lot further than snipe hunting.

see, where i live there is an old pre-Civil War Cemetery known as Coon Hill and its supposed to be haunted. On a fairly regular basis we'll get city folk down wanting to go out there at night to "Prove how manly they are." and usually those people cause damage to the stones or something else about the cemetery, so the locals tend to send them out to the ass end of nowhere. You have not laughed your ass off until you come upon a group of city folk tromping knee deep through a Moccasin filled swamp going, "it has to be around here somewhere!"
 
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